I dont get

[checktheknuckles]

If you like watching men grab assing so much, why not watch some gay pornhub?

 

[richardjohnson]

I think a lot of the complaints have more to do with who lost rather than how they lost. Most of these people would have no issue if Sugar Shins had wrestled Merab to decision.

 

[don't ask]

There's a difference between knowing something is allowed and liking it. Ever play a fighting game?

How did ya feel about that guy that got one light punch ahead and then ran away until time ran out. I mean, it's not BREAKING THE RULES or anything. So you couldn't have been annoyed right?

I bet that wouldn't have happened if you were better at the fighting game.

 

[Mike]

I bet that wouldn't have happened if you were better at the fighting game.

Who do you think was doing it?

 

[Mike]

I was a fucking troll as a teenager lmao

 

[10000yearsold]

The second fight never needed to happen considering Val literally quit in the first fight when she tapped out. No one should get an instant rematch if they quit. Go pick up a win or two and earn the rematch.

Agreed. The instant rematches put contender ship in a standstill and honestly cost fighters their opportunities in their most prime moments. Kills their momentum. It’s also why champs shouldn’t be choosing their opponents. There should be a responsibility to always and only be fighting the next top contender, or the belt revoked because it’s not about the fighter, it’s about the sport. If you’re not willing to fight the top contenders, you’re not championing shit.

All very idealistic, I know. But why not, at least in theory discussion, be idealistic.

 

[don't ask]

Who do you think was doing it?

Then I bet that wouldn't have happened is your opponent was better at the fighting game.

 

[MMAJunkie]

There's a difference between knowing something is allowed and liking it. Ever play a fighting game?

How did ya feel about that guy that got one light punch ahead and then ran away until time ran out. I mean, it's not BREAKING THE RULES or anything. So you couldn't have been annoyed right?

Man you guys would have hated Randy.

 

[usernamee]

It's like watching hockey or any other sport.

There are exciting hockey games and dull hockey games.

A hockey game can be exciting as fuck with fast play, a lot of shots on goals, a lot of big hits, creative passing

But a hockey game can be dull af when one team is leading and deciding to play on their lead shutting down the opposing team in the neutral zone, spending time just keeping the puck within their own team without trying to go for the offensive too much because that will lose them the puck etc.

It's impressive to do that but that doesn't mean anyone is sitting saying "Oh wow, you guys don't understand how hard it is to do that so this is actually exciting and not boring at all!"

 

[SuperAlly]

Wah, wah Omalley has zero grappling and it's everyone else's fault he lost his manufactured, gifted title

Dry your eyes losers

 

[SuperAlly]

Wah, wah Omalley has zero grappling and it's everyone else's fault he lost his manufactured, gifted title

Dry your eyes losers

 

[SuperAlly]

can't really blame Val for playing it a bit safe for this trilogy fight. First fight she made a dumb mistake and the second fight she was robbed by Mike "10-8" Bell. So she didn't want to leave any room for any discrepancies. She was dominant the entire time.

Yep, bs judging in earlier fights is a large part of why this one played out this way

 

[SuperAlly]

We really talking about earning things on the night OMalley lost the most manufactured champion status in MMA history

That guy never earned shit

The second fight never needed to happen considering Val literally quit in the first fight when she tapped out. No one should get an instant rematch if they quit. Go pick up a win or two and earn the rematch.

 

[SuperAlly]

I think you should let somebody hold you against some fence and knee your legs for a couple minutes straight

Then you can come back and tell me how good those felt..


Hey could you tell me the part where O'malley did a whole bunch of damage wasn't he supposed to be the super skilled sniper who has one shot k.o power ?

Last time I check all the rounds and all fights start standing

you know my favorite part of the fight was when O'malley stook his hands in Merabs gloves to try to do an armbar that was my favorite part.... That type of behavior right there tells you of how underprepared O'Malley was his coaches let him down

F'n laughable the way Omalley was built up as some one shot ko guy

The Aljo win was the exception not the rule

Had like 4000 free shots at that no name, late replacement guy and couldn't put him away

The one shot ko stuff was a ridiculous fabrication

 

[SuperAlly]

I'm not gonna pretend for a second that effective grappling that doesn't end up with a submission or towards a tko isn't as exciting as some swangin and bangin, but seeing someone get broke down by good grappling IS still exciting. The fact that people are not as excited by one guy who wins vs how exciting they think the losing fighter can be is fine, I get that, but getting upset and offended by it is peak crybaby privilege.

Very well put

And let's be honest, if Sean had effected the game plan he wanted: boring pot shotting from range, to a decision win, all these same people wouldn't be crying

So really they just mad their boy was absolutely exposed and demonstrated to be completely unprepared for an elite MMA bout

It ain't the 90s anymore. Can't just come in as a specialist

Hell, a killer striker like Poatan who was genuinely elite as a specialist, barely gets away with it and has to learn grappling

Sean's striking is "elite" only in an MMA context, unlike Alex. Compared to genuinely elite boxers, kick boxers etc, Sean would get absolutely worked

So he has solid striking and embarrassing grappling. Without being completely protected by the organisation, that's only taking you so far before you get exposed

 

[SuperAlly]

question? so you are ok going back to wall and stall.? because you sound like your glorify it i dont mind wrestling to finish, but the Jon Fitch technique got its name for reason ITS BORING LAY AND PRAY!

Grasso and Sean laid and prayed. Lying on the bottom, clinging on for dear life, begging for a stand up.

 

[SuperAlly]

I've seen this quite a bit since the fights and the answer has not changed. People like grappling. It's why they liked Khabib and it's why they like Oliveira and Islam, but what people don't like is grappling that is just control time really and nothing more. Yes, Sean and Alexa need much better TDD, but just because they need better TDD does not take away the fact that Valentina and Merab did not do much, if any damage with all their control time.

You could argue that in some rounds Alexa was busier off her back searching for subs than Valentina was in top position. Also, Merab has a really good resume but that does not change the fact that his style is boring to watch. He has amazing cardio and great wrestling. Perfect, if that is the case then stop kissing and yelling at people and actually try and finish people for once. You could argue that Merab wet blanketed his way to the title and while that's fine for him it brings down the quality of the fight.

It comes down to what you want to see in a high level MMA fight. I, personally, don't want to see wet blankets but maybe you do, and while your decision is valid it makes the sport a lot more boring to watch.

At least you are one of the few not absolving Sean and alexa just because you are salty.

 

[SuperAlly]

Grappling is all well and good, what we witnessed on Saturday was.. idk... Anti fighting? I love seeing fighters go for submissions or ground and pound. Problem isn't grappling, it's avoiding fighting, we witnessed the ground version of Guida vs Maynard.

Sean and to a lesser extent Alexa were anti fighting. "I have zero grappling and TDD so I'll just hold on for dear life at the bottom and hope the ref cuts me a break"

Go train some grappling, UFC won't always gift you title shots vs good stylistic match ups

 

[SuperAlly]

O'Malley and Grasso simply aren't well rounded enough to be anything other than fly by night champs

And with fair matchmaking Sean wouldn't have got a sniff of the title

He's had enough presents already now

 

[SuperAlly]

I think a lot of the complaints have more to do with who lost rather than how they lost. Most of these people would have no issue if Sugar Shins had wrestled Merab to decision.

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