I am an ex-Scientologist. (LONG read)

A question about the kids working 100 + hour weeks, what does the government say about them not being at school during the week?

Do they go to school AND work too?

What kind of labor could the Co$ possibly need them for? Cleaning up? Chopping wood?

In my area I've seen CoS posted up kiosks in the mall for "stress level readings" and I've also been propositioned by members outside of grocery stores. I sometimes get handed flyers for a relaxing mental stress relief aka. scientology when I'm out partying downtown. I'd imagine they use kids to spread their religion to other kids through word of mouth.
 
I lol'd.

I understand your frustration but dude... don't punch Sea Org members in the nuts. It could be REALLY bad for you.

YOU take care, sir.

Oh noes the Semen Orgy is coming for me, im so scared :icon_lol:

But seriously, explain what you mean by really bad for him?
 
Oh noes the Semen Orgy is coming for me, im so scared :icon_lol:

But seriously, explain what you mean by really bad for him?

Obvious legal trouble is obvious.

Don't punch anyone in the nuts. Sea Org members, doubly so.
 
A question about the kids working 100 + hour weeks, what does the government say about them not being at school during the week?

Do they go to school AND work too?

What kind of labor could the Co$ possibly need them for? Cleaning up? Chopping wood?

Gov says nothing. Gov is not watching.

Watch this...



This is the niece of the leader of the church, David Miscavige.
 
It's amazing the power a science fiction book can have over morons.


...not like this hasn't happened before (sarcasm).
 
wow, that is horrible. why do so many people flock to that shit?
them motherfuckers are so goddamned crazy.....wow.
 
anybody that has gotten past the 'planet xenu' parts of scientology, and stayed interested and kept listening......... is an idiot.
 
i once worked for a couple who were scientologist. before i was hired, i had to fill out a pscychology test....it basically asked a bunch of randon (ethical) questions; answers were all right answers-just had to chose the most correct. turns out it was some scientology test.... they asked me a week after i was hired about my background (cultural, socio/economic, religious, and politcal convictions... i thought they were just being friendly... they even invited me to a few of their "formal" dinner parties but declined as i just thought it was too weird to hang out and party with my bosses; especially since i was the only one at work who was invited. i would see random dianetics and church of scientology literature laying aorund work... they would call me into their office and just chit chat with me and offer coffee and stuff. the people i worked with were very irritated at that. they knew i wasnt a suck up...but it just seemed weird that they went out of their way to say good morning and stuff. well, 6 months later, they told everyone that they were scientologist and that they were answering to a higher calling. they sold their physical therapy practice, their mansion, and everything within their estate, and gave it all to scientology. from what they said, they would be living within a scientology conclave in holywood...
 
The funny thing is that most Scientologists think that lobotomies and shock therapies are regular parts of psychiatric care. They are not, and what's more even a five minute trip to Wikipedia will tell you as much.

Lobotomies were only really popular from the late 1930s to the late 1950s, and virtually disappeared from treatment after doctors began to realize that although they did calm patients down and helped some people, their long-term side effects were highly unpredictable, and that newer medications were much more effective.

Shock therapies have always been last-ditch efforts. They are used when patients don't respond to anything else, from therapy to medication. I know personally of people with major-league depression that didn't respond to anything else. Also, today electroconvulsive therapy is done after putting the patient to sleep, unlike how it was done back in (again) the 1930-1960 period when it saw it's major use. There is no pain involved and patients don't have any recollection of the therapy.

This is a recurring theme among Scientologists - they are stuck in a time warp. Hubbard wrote most of his truly influential stuff in that time period, and since his words are canon to Scientologists, they don't really know how to deal with the world except through a 1950s lens. Everything from information dissemination to dealing with the media to how to organize the workplace....all built on vastly outdated methods Hubbard cribbed from a variety of sources in the 50s.

That's why I think the internet will eventually kill this monster - there is nothing in the doctrine that tells Scientologists how to deal with a world that includes such an information network.

Darwinist's expansive and remarkably detailed knowledge of totally random topics is absolutely incredible sometimes. Rarely does he post something this long that doesn't completely draw me in.
 
This was a damn entertaining read. Congrats on getting out homie.
 
If any of you are in the San Jose area...

I will be attending a protest being held by Anonymous this Saturday at the local church in San Jose. All of you are more than welcome to join us.

There are also other protests (raids) being held around the world on a regular basis. Let me know if any of you are interested.

Good times! :D
 
Hi, Will.

I have been following this thread to the letter, but was wondering...

Can you provide a link to a news article that references the suicide of your uncle? Perhaps even a link to a small local paper?

Forgive me for the seemingly tactless request, but I kind of share the same sentiment on that revelation as Zeke's Chaingun; who, might I add, is pretty much one of the only remaining Sherdoggers whose opinions I always find logical, genuine, respectful and to the point. A rare combination.

So, believe me when I say for the both of us that we mean nothing personal by expressing a certain "hunch" or doubt.

Thanks in advance and I will continue to monitor this thread.
 
Hi, Will.

I have been following this thread to the letter, but was wondering...

Can you provide a link to a news article that references the suicide of your uncle? Perhaps even a link to a small local paper?

Forgive me for the seemingly tactless request, but I kind of share the same sentiment on that revelation as Zeke's Chaingun; who, might I add, is pretty much one of the only remaining Sherdoggers whose opinions I always find logical, genuine, respectful and to the point. A rare combination.

So, believe me when I say for the both of us that we mean nothing personal by expressing a certain "hunch" or doubt.

Thanks in advance and I will continue to monitor this thread.

I have no idea if one exists.

I know it was in Florida. I know he hung himself. His name was Robert Maracle.

Good luck and thanks for reading.
 
Hi, Will.

I have been following this thread to the letter, but was wondering...

Can you provide a link to a news article that references the suicide of your uncle? Perhaps even a link to a small local paper?

Forgive me for the seemingly tactless request, but I kind of share the same sentiment on that revelation as Zeke's Chaingun; who, might I add, is pretty much one of the only remaining Sherdoggers whose opinions I always find logical, genuine, respectful and to the point. A rare combination.

So, believe me when I say for the both of us that we mean nothing personal by expressing a certain "hunch" or doubt.

Thanks in advance and I will continue to monitor this thread.

What is your hunch?
Too neat a thread? Staged?
Even if this was an anonymous anti-scientology viral campaign... surely they would base it on a real incident?
 
Can you provide a link to a news article that references the suicide of your uncle? Perhaps even a link to a small local paper?

Robert Maracle | hometownlife.com | the Observer & Eccentric Newspapers and Hometown Weeklies

If you are skeptical, then a link like this doesn't prove anything as Will could have found a random, obscure obit on the internet and used the name. Not saying this is my opinion, just saying...

Oh, and Will, whether your thread is true or not, its still one of the more interesting on Sherdog currently, so thanks for that. I logged on last night around 10:30 thinking I'd check out what's doing down on SD before I go to bed and ended up staying up until 1:30am reading the entire thread, and its spinoff threads. Good luck!
 
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