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Can’t I be a Jones fan who DOES want to see him fight Tom?
I’ve never seen such a divided group.
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I think it is mostly Jones haters who want him to fight a HW with KO power and a good record. They wanted him to fight Pavlovich as well until he became “never that good”.
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Some of them may just be trolling, but some clearly fit into the latter sentence if you look at their arguments.
This isn't nearly as divided as the BJ/GSP debates on Sherdog back in the day. It is a stranger debate though, and one that is far less evenly divided than the GSP/BJ days. Neither fan group was a small niche like the Jones fans.
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That's funny because I could swear everyone is clamoring for that fight with Aspinall that Jones put himself into the position to have by moving to HW.
Jones has the title, Tom has the Intermin title. Does that maybe signal every good reason for them to fight?
I think the truth is that everyone wants that fight that isn't afraid of Jones losing.
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No, that's illegal
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Jon should just retire so he can get mad on twitter when someone suggests he isn't the goat. Quit stringing everyone along and let the division move on.
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Worrying about who the next man enjoys watching fight and trying to sway his liking is some pick me homo sexual mentality I never understood. We were never not divided I always thought you were a gay man and left you alone
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Of course it will happen. Jon and Tom both are the only options for each other. So if Jon wants to continue fighting, this is is only fight option. And there is no way Jon will just retire and give up the belt. Jon is a competitor with the greatest legacy in mma history, he would not go out like that.
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What part about claiming this as simply a Jones move and not the company move is erroneous does your dumb ass not get? What part of the people explaining this to you and not necessarily agreeing with the move does your dumb ass not get?
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The names he's fought at LHW
He tip toed about until Ngannou fucked off then beat a 1 fight iq Gane and a slow broken old man ..
Tom is everything .. and beating Tom will do a lot for him.
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Really?
We were on Sherdog during the McGregor era where he set the record for the longest champ to never defend his title before being stripped.
We were on Sherdog during the nearly 3 year break McGregor between beating Alvarez and finally fighting Khabib.
I was in Sherdog when the hardcore group told everyone else to stfu and McGregor could do what he wants when the normal group just wanted McGregor to fight. And this was during McGregor's physical prime.
Jon is a legend that has been vocal about wanting to craft his legacy the way he wants and wants to go out on his own terms. If they fight that's great. I'll watch. If they don't fight then ok the sport and MMA will move on.
My biggest issue with this whole situation is Tom. Tom is going waste his career chasing Jon rather than just saying "I'm not going to waste my prime and title reign waiting for 1 man." It gives me Chandler chasing McGregor or Zambit chasing Yair vibes. If Jon doesn't want to fight then fight Gane or someone else and get another title defense under his belt and few mil in the bank.
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He's not "wrong", as it's his opinion and subjective. But he is being disingenuous and borderline unethical/unsportsmanlike dodging the interim champ while fighting old guys coming out of retirement (while the interim has already challenged and beaten the number 1 contender).
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Jon's nuthuggers are way more confident than Jon himself that he would beat Aspinall 
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He picked Stipe Miocic before Aspinall was even in the picture. Most people didn't even know Aspinall and he wasn't ranked that well, he was a prospect whose best win was vs Arlovski back then (older than Stipe) iirc. Then JJ got hurt, Aspinall won the interim title. Jon Jones kept on his signed contract to fight Stipe, only it was re-defined to a new date. They could have made Aspinall vs Stipe while Jon Jones was injured, or have Jon Jones fight Aspinall straight away, but it's not a rule that a booked fight that got cancelled due to injury needs to be cast aside because there is an interim champion... If Aspinall were the interim champion before the fight was even booked, but still, JJ called Stipe ignoring Aspinall, then sure. He did not though, the Stipe fight simply got re-booked to another date regardless of Aspinall. Later on, Aspinall would get the belt or a shot to the belt anyways, which is inevitable. It likely will happen 10 months after JJ vs Stipe, which isn't an unreasonable time, specially for someone of JJ's age, time in the UFC, injury and the weight of such a fight.
Jon Jones knew about Aspinall before the Gane fight though and he had said Aspinall to him was the most impressive prospect. And hinted he has an interest in a potential clash with him after Cyril Gane and Miocic, but that due to his age, legacy and need for $ given all his body sacrifice, it wouldn't be enough for him (JJ) only to know that Tom is a huge challenge and likely the best opponent he may face... He said it'd need a broad recognizemet, people would need to see that as the fight and also, it build up enough to be worth $, and then he said he'd be interested in fighting and (according to him) proving he is still the best and that he is a better version of the old LHW JJ. Crazy, but JJ said he trained a lot and managed to adapt himself to the new era, that the Reyes fight made him study more the new generation of fighters, and to develop his game for it to be still at the top among the new generation of fighters.
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This confidence thing is a myth. Many fighters aren't confident. They, like, know they have what it takes to accomplish it. It's like when you study for a hard exam, knowing it'll be a hard calculus test let's say, but also knowing you prepared really well and have the tools to go well. Jones has openly said he always feels anxious when a contract is signed, has nightmares and all, but that this process of challenging himself in unsettling situations make him more alive. He said he knows he has a huge potential as a fighter, that he was born to fight, was gifted with an immense talented that he likes to believe was a gift from God and thinks he is not designed to lose... And that no matter how risky a fight may be, where the perception that he can't do it is strong, the feeling of anxiety and fear will be always there, but also, the wish to try and roll the dices on his "blessed talent", which so far, has always gone his way, in what he says that a combination of talent, grind work and advanced training methods/equipments, alongside recent sports drinks/energy focus oriented expensive drinks that some fighters invest in make him prevail to this age.Jon's nuthuggers are way more confident than Jon himself that he would beat Aspinall
This drink is legal a from what I've seen if pretty expensive but some athletes that seek high performance above all invest in, as it helps with motivation, physical recovery and efficiency in training, alongside a brain fog that is common to many fighters who has had many fights, giving them a better mental clarity and focus... Almost like a higher level, expanded version of ADHD meds with better and additional benefits for fighters. I think this slow approach also stem to the fact that he is in there to win... That he won't rush until he feels he has absolutely what it takes to win the fight.
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Can’t I be a Jones fan that doesn’t give a shit if they make it or not but intelligent enough to explain why it hasn’t happen from a business perspective? It’s just more of the same allowed here. Cry like a hoe about a fanbase and dub those that don’t stand for the disrespect
I’m not a Jones fan, but any fan of MMA can recognize that he’s a top p4p fighter of all time, and that he’s done more in the UFC than anyone. Youngest champ, most title defenses, most wins, longest win streak, LHW and HW champ, #1 p4p according to the UFC president.
If a guy like Jones doesn’t have the ability to negotiate for a big payday, who does?
Aspinall is barely on casuals radar outside of the UK.
For Jones to take the role as “veteran big name being sacrificed to the new young champion”, he should be compensated.
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People want to see him fight the best in his decision - the interim title holder - to unify the title. Right now that's Tom Aspinall. Why do you think that makes them haters? It just makes them fight fans.
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If you see homosexuality everywhere you like, you're probably projecting
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Yeah those retards act like Jon can call his shots at HW but Jon hasn't done anything at HW to warrant calling his own shots (which is a retard take to begin with). Jon is nothing but a fuckin duck at HW. Ducked HW until Ngannou left and then ducking now that Tom is at the top. Jon just retire and go back to slapping women like Dana. sheesh.
