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Hugh Jackman denies steroid use for Wolverine


This video is from 2016. It is from the same year X-men Apocalypse came out. Logan came out a year after this. I know there is movie magic but there is quite a difference. This whole staying in peak physical shape since he started training in his 30s narrative doesn't quite hold true.
 
Nothing about him screams steroids to me. I'm not far from his final form, even though I'm a little younger. I'm sure with the right nutrition and training I could get to that level easy.
 
The event is hosted by CANFITPRO. I apologize. It's a pro qualifying event.

I posted pictures of him right before he made the first X men movie. He was in his 30s then. He wasn't a physical specimen. Suppose say he got the full maxed out "newbie" gains bestowed upon him when he did his first movie. You don't expect him to plateau close to 2 decades of training? That is assuming he is training all this time which he obviously isn't. He goes through phases where he deflates and regains the muscle for the superhero role. You don't easily put on mass when you are training for years.

This picture is from Logan at 49 years old.
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I don't know man. I don't think you're contradicting what I'm saying but you don't seem to accept the premise and that's OK. I'm not saying Jackman has been training at peak BB capacity for 20 years nor that he needs to, to achieve that physique. If he had, you'd expect him to be quite a bit bigger given where he was in his early 30's.

The one thing I've learned in 30+ years of training is that you can't improve cardio, bf% AND gain muscle at the same time unless you're severely out of shape or on PEDs. You have to do them separately. But you can do a cut phase and lean up on whatever muscle mass you have at the time. The amount of muscle Jackman has in those pics is NOT crazy at all. Many have cited he was 185 lbs at 6' 2" or 6' 3" which is well within natty range. What looks impressive is how lean he is. With normal "in-shape" bf he'd look like a random 200 lbs gym bro.

And putting muscle mass back on in your 40's if you've achieved it before and aren't just sitting on the couch eating Cheetos, is easily done. I've done it twice in my 40's during COVID lockdowns when my BJJ gym was closed and I switched focus to hypertrophy lifting in my basement. It's just a matter of eating more and lifting heavier weights on a powerlifting program for a few months. I don't usually focus on hypertrophy - I train BJJ 3 x week with lighter barbell training 2 x week for injury prevention and to retain muscle mass.

But like I've said many times, Jackman certainly might have used PEDs. And if he did, he probably used something to get cut because getting that lean while retaining muscle mass is fucking hard and requires discipline and good genetics.

EDIT: Here's another angle of Jackman from Logan. From a full body view, he looks downright skinny, which he is for his height.

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Was this ever actually portrayed in the comics? I remember a character called Jebediah (Zebadiah?) Creed who was supposed to be Sabretooth's dad, who beat him and chained him up in the basement. I think that was established in both the comics and the saturday morning X-men cartoon back in the 80's. Father who beats him would have been darker, but I think the big brother angle that the movies portrayed at least got the dynamic kind of close.



A 5' 3" version of Hugh Jackman would have been perfect, but 6' 3" Jackman did such a great job playing the character, I don't know if anyone else could have done it better regardless of height. I don't usually care for comic book movies because they rarely capture the original feel, but Jackman's Wolverine and Bale's Batman are the exceptions. Of course a yellow suit, mask etc, would have been truer to the source material but I'm not sure how you do that in live action without looking ridiculous. IMO they made the right decision going with the neutral black outfits and no mask for the movies. They at least nailed the rough lumberjack look and feel.

Re. comics retconning the look to match the movies, that's unfortunate but understandable. Blockbuster movies are by far the biggest investment in getting the character out there to reach the most eyeballs. And of course they then want to monetize that character for toys, video games, spin-offs, etc. So even though it might be blasphemous, business decision-making kind of dictates they have to retcon the look.
Jackman just wasn't animalistic enough for me, I guess. I felt like he could've perhaps used some light prosthetics on his face to emphasize more of a borderline werewolf look. Maybe had his eyes glow a few times, as Wolverine's do in the comics at points. The guy is just so frigging handsome and dapper, too handsome and dapper for me. That said, I only watched the first and third movies, so maybe he proved me wrong.

As far as the father-son thing, yeah, that was the original intent of Chris Claremont and John Byrne. In fact, Wolverine was actually supposed to look quite a bit like Sabretooth with his mask off, but Dave Cockrum drew him unmasked before they could have a chance to reveal Wolverine's face, thus giving us the Wolverine look we all know and love. That's why the first Sabretooth-Wolverine encounters revolved around the idea that Sabretooth mysteriously knew Wolverine's birthday, in spite of nobody--including Wolverine--knowing anything of his own past and would make a point to find him on that day and beat him within an inch of his life and also sometimes kill his loved ones. That's also why Sabretooth would talk about proving that Wolverine was always going to be weaker, never gonna measure up, etc.

Eventually, in Claremont's final issue of his original run of the solo Wolverine title, he had Sabretooth reveal that he was Wolverine's dad, much to Wolverine's dismay. But then, for whatever reason, the writer that took over had it retconned, with no real--and no good--explanation. But personally, I always take that original storyline as the authentic one, mostly because I like it better and because undoing it just sucks the wind out of those previous stories.

A funny thing, though, is that Claremont at one point felt Sabretooth lost his edge and wanted to explain that every Sabretooth you'd seen except in Wolverine flashbacks was a clone and that the real Sabretooth was in the shadows, lurking on the outskirts of the Marvel Universe. It is funny, because some of the comics where Sabretooth may've not seemed sufficient unbeatable as a villain were written by Claremont himself. I get wanting to retcon crap like Black Cat totally manhandling Sabretooth, but making every version that jobbed a clone just seems going too far.

As far as the look, I don't know, masks are just cool, IMO. One of the reasons I don't have an interest in superhero movies. Too much tech, too much armor and not enough masks. I don't wanna see handsome, shredded guys punch each other. I wanna see masked men in cool costumes punch each other. It is not the same thing.
 
Who cares hes an actor

I dont know what problem actors have with saying their on roids

If i was actor i would straight up say im full of bullshark testesterone 9000 wtf you gonna do about it
I don't care they juice, in fact I'm glad they do. Like someone else said, I'd rather see jacked superheroes/action stars if the script/character calls for it

The problem is the lying. It's never talked about, as media never cares about male issues, but body dysmorphia is a big problem for young men/teenage boys too.

Thankfully obvious celeb lies about juicing is out in the wild, so more kids will get exposed to it. Still though, this unspoken wink wink thing is damaging to many.
 
Jackman just wasn't animalistic enough for me, I guess. I felt like he could've perhaps used some light prosthetics on his face to emphasize more of a borderline werewolf look. Maybe had his eyes glow a few times, as Wolverine's do in the comics at points. The guy is just so frigging handsome and dapper, too handsome and dapper for me. That said, I only watched the first and third movies, so maybe he proved me wrong.

As far as the father-son thing, yeah, that was the original intent of Chris Claremont and John Byrne. In fact, Wolverine was actually supposed to look quite a bit like Sabretooth with his mask off, but Dave Cockrum drew him unmasked before they could have a chance to reveal Wolverine's face, thus giving us the Wolverine look we all know and love. That's why the first Sabretooth-Wolverine encounters revolved around the idea that Sabretooth mysteriously knew Wolverine's birthday, in spite of nobody--including Wolverine--knowing anything of his own past and would make a point to find him on that day and beat him within an inch of his life and also sometimes kill his loved ones. That's also why Sabretooth would talk about proving that Wolverine was always going to be weaker, never gonna measure up, etc.

Eventually, in Claremont's final issue of his original run of the solo Wolverine title, he had Sabretooth reveal that he was Wolverine's dad, much to Wolverine's dismay. But then, for whatever reason, the writer that took over had it retconned, with no real--and no good--explanation. But personally, I always take that original storyline as the authentic one, mostly because I like it better and because undoing it just sucks the wind out of those previous stories.

A funny thing, though, is that Claremont at one point felt Sabretooth lost his edge and wanted to explain that every Sabretooth you'd seen except in Wolverine flashbacks was a clone and that the real Sabretooth was in the shadows, lurking on the outskirts of the Marvel Universe. It is funny, because some of the comics where Sabretooth may've not seemed sufficient unbeatable as a villain were written by Claremont himself. I get wanting to retcon crap like Black Cat totally manhandling Sabretooth, but making every version that jobbed a clone just seems going too far.

As far as the look, I don't know, masks are just cool, IMO. One of the reasons I don't have an interest in superhero movies. Too much tech, too much armor and not enough masks. I don't wanna see handsome, shredded guys punch each other. I wanna see masked men in cool costumes punch each other. It is not the same thing.

I hear you bro. Jackman looks like a Disney prince and is borderline too rico suave to play Wolverine. But he gets it done and is particularly good in flashback sequences and the flash forward movie Logan - where he's just a gruff, gritty MFer. If you haven't seen them and you're a Wolverine fan, X-Men Origins: Wolverine and Logan are worth a watch. The Origins intro is arguably better than the movie but the whole thing is decent and IMO they do justice to the adversarial Logan/Victor Creed relationship, especially Logan and his original bone claws and Sabretooth beating the crap out of him in single combat.



No opinion on the Deadpool 3 movie and I will probably skip it. Like you, I'm not a fan of most superhero movies and it looks like Wolverine might only be in it for supporting comic relief. But the trailer DOES show him in a mask in a few clips - probably some different multiverse version:

 
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The event is hosted by CANFITPRO. I apologize. It's a pro qualifying event.

I posted pictures of him right before he made the first X men movie. He was in his 30s then. He wasn't a physical specimen. Suppose say he got the full maxed out "newbie" gains bestowed upon him when he did his first movie. You don't expect him to plateau close to 2 decades of training? That is assuming he is training all this time which he obviously isn't. He goes through phases where he deflates and regains the muscle for the superhero role. You don't easily put on mass when you are training for years.

This picture is from Logan at 49 years old.
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That is not a physique on steroids guys. At 49 I looked similar with creatine, whey protien and working out 6 days a week like a monster. Unsustaianble, but doable.
 
That is not a physique on steroids guys. At 49 I looked similar with creatine, whey protien and working out 6 days a week like a monster. Unsustaianble, but doable.
Nah you are fibbing or grossly overestimating your gains. You are the 30lbs of lean muscle in one year while in your late 40s guy. You could go compete in the natural Olympia for 50+. If you are a competitor then I apologize for my jadedness.
 
Nah you are fibbing or grossly overestimating your gains. You are the 30lbs of lean muscle in one year while in your late 40s guy. You could go compete in the natural Olympia for 50+. If you are a competitor then I apologize for my jadedness.


I don't fib. I understand your perspective. I don't understand why people can't believe Hugh is natural. Look at that video of 50 plus natural, they are more jacked and bigger than Hugh Jackman as wolverine. Come on guys.
 
The event is hosted by CANFITPRO. I apologize. It's a pro qualifying event.

I posted pictures of him right before he made the first X men movie. He was in his 30s then. He wasn't a physical specimen. Suppose say he got the full maxed out "newbie" gains bestowed upon him when he did his first movie. You don't expect him to plateau close to 2 decades of training? That is assuming he is training all this time which he obviously isn't. He goes through phases where he deflates and regains the muscle for the superhero role. You don't easily put on mass when you are training for years.

This picture is from Logan at 49 years old.
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That vein he’s got running down from his front delt down his bicep into forearm is pretty crazy.
I’ve always been naturally vascular, and recently when I was only doing curls I started getting a bit of that ninja turtle bicep vein but nothing close to that.
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He’s not much leaner than I am either.
Can someone get that vascular natty?
 
Prolly did, but people underestimate the difference a good pump makes. You can look freakin awesome after a solid workout vs alright the next morning.
 
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Hugh Jackman is trolling. One month transformation.
 
Even if he did, so what. Nothing wrong with taking roids or performance enhancers. They should be legal in all sports too.
 
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