How would you compare Carpenter with Kubrick as directors?

lowlife said:
I'll take Carpenter over Kubrick any day, in terms of do I actually want to sit down and watch the movie. To each his own but the only Kubrick movie that I'd ever want to watch again is FMJ.
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Ive watched The Shining many of times.
 
Berserker13 said:
Kubrick's movie all have a deep hidden underlying philosophical message. Carpenter makes movies that are for entertainment first
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What's the deep hidden underlying philosophical message behind The Shining? It's a Stephen King story.

They Live has way more hidden messages...which Roddy Piper exposes through kicking ass and chewing bubblegum.
 
Intermission said:
You dont seriously think that one is hard to rewatch?
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It's not enjoyable to me, no. I understand it's cinematically a very respected movie, and to be fair the scenes/shots are technically amazing; I just don't particulalry enjoy watching it. I will say the first and only time I watched it through, it was definitely an experience.
 
Tbh I only really like 3 Kubrick films (Shining, FMJ, & Eyes Wide Shut)

But for Carpenter I like more. I personally put Halloween & The Thing on the same level as Shining and FMJ. I would say all 4 films I would rate 9/10.

Which leaves me Escape, Big Trouble and They Live over Eyes Wide shut.

Kubrick is for sure the better director, not even really close, but I still prefer Carpenters 5 films over Kubricks 3.
 
LOL @ comparing these two in any capacity as directors. They're both uniquely amazing, but for very different reasons.
 
HOLA said:
What's the deep hidden underlying philosophical message behind The Shining? It's a Stephen King story.

They Live has way more hidden messages...which Roddy Piper exposes through kicking ass and chewing bubblegum.
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There's plenty of YT video's that could explain it better. Carpenter's movies were made when people were more low iq
 
Intermission said:
So you think the simplicity of Carpenters vision is intentional?
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His interest and skill lay in randomly emotional, campy pulp. That's who he is. He could very well be a 170 IQ genius, but his interest in film was for much more simplistic reasons. He didn't make movies to really make people think. Does this make him a lesser director than Kubrick? In certain regards for sure. But you could make similar arguments in reverse, noting the typical critiques of both are polar opposites of one another.

Both are joined by their incredible visual perspectives to storytelling.
 
Carpenter for me, he did the first and up until the Luhrmann film, the best Elvis biopic, that does it for me.
 
Natural Order said:
His interest and skill lay in randomly emotional, campy pulp. That's who he is. He could very well be a 170 IQ genius, but his interest in film was for much more simplistic reasons. He didn't make movies to really make people think. Does this make him a lesser director than Kubrick? In certain regards for sure. But you could make similar arguments in reverse, noting the typical critiques of both are polar opposites of one another.

Both are joined by their incredible visual perspectives to storytelling.
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Carpenter seems to be a genius at making the best of what he got. He made Halloween effective with a very basic composer (himself) and shot it great. He has a Hitchcock ability to create the right mood in pictures, which is incredibly hard to do.

Another strength is that he almost always ends up with the right actor for the role. He never has the wrong person.
 
Intermission said:
Carpenter seems to be a genius at making the best of what he got. He made Halloween effective with a very basic composer (himself) and shot it great. He has a Hitchcock ability to create the right mood in pictures, which is incredibly hard to do.

Another strength is that he almost always ends up with the right actor for the role. He never has the wrong person.
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Good take.
 
ssBaldy said:
I think Kubrick is somewhat overrated, many of his movies are not really fun to watch. Some are incredible. Full Metal jacket is one of the best war movies ever.
But I think sometimes he gets too high-brow for his own good.
Ultimately I think Kubrick is better and more influential.
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he does, I'm thinking what one writer called Prince's script for "Graffiti Bridge" "obtuse to the point of gibberish" which would apply to Kubrick.
 
Intermission said:
Carpenter seems to be a genius at making the best of what he got. He made Halloween effective with a very basic composer (himself) and shot it great. He has a Hitchcock ability to create the right mood in pictures, which is incredibly hard to do.

Another strength is that he almost always ends up with the right actor for the role. He never has the wrong person.
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They're opposites really. Kubrick never needed a big name actor. Carpenter is a bit on the cornier side
 
Intermission said:
Carpenter seems to be a genius at making the best of what he got. He made Halloween effective with a very basic composer (himself) and shot it great. He has a Hitchcock ability to create the right mood in pictures, which is incredibly hard to do.

Another strength is that he almost always ends up with the right actor for the role. He never has the wrong person.
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To me, his biggest achievement is as a composer. He’s amazing and helped kick off a synth style that’s actually even more popular now than when he started. I do enjoy music more, so my opinion is biased as hell
 
They Live, Big Trouble in Little China, and especially The Thing are some of my favorite movies. Campy? Yes, but that's part of their charm. I'm someone who thinks Vampire's Kiss with Nicholas Cage is a masterpiece, after all.



Kubrick was a perfectionist, to the point of obsession in his later life. Which is why he only made 2 movies during the last 20 or so years of his life. Kubrick was a true artist, no doubt, and I get that people think he's more sophisticated because of his peregrinations, but it doesn't always work.

Sometimes I like to listen to Chopin's nocturnes and sometimes I want to listen to Ace of Spades by Motorhead, ya know?
 
Berserker13 said:
There's plenty of YT video's that could explain it better. Carpenter's movies were made when people were more low iq
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But their careers overlapped each other lol?

Anyway, I've seen a decent amount of the YT videos, and they leave a lot to be desired for the most part. Usually some gibberish about how Kubrick faked the moon landing and The Shining was his confession. Danny goes into Room 237! That's the mean distance of the Earth from the moon...except it's not. Blah blah.

Love this scene though. My favorite scene in the movie:

 
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