How truly effective is USADA when fighters STILL believe they can get away with cheating?

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  1. IGotAHugePeckah

    IGotAHugePeckah Brown Belt

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    I know, I know: they caught TJ.

    But the fact that he would even TRY to cheat at this point suggests that he thought there was a good chance he could get away with it. I mean why else would he even attempt it? He knows the repercussions are SEVERE and long-lasting.

    So where would he get the idea he could get away with doping? It couldn't simply be "I'll cross my fingers and hope I don't get caught". You'd have to have some solid information that it was possible he could get away with it.

    Word travels fast between gyms, trainers, fighters, etc, I'm sure. Are guys finding loop holes in USADA's testing that TJ tried to exploit?

    So on the heels of the whole Jon Jones picogram scandal, does USADA lose even more credibility here?
     
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  2. Mixfight

    Mixfight Black Belt

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    Because now days you can snitch like Jon Jones and get a reduced sentence and be back around the same time you would be back if you took some time off to heal up some nagging injuries.
     
  3. Ballsaque

    Ballsaque Purple Belt

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    People will always try. ALWAYS.
     
  4. vgff

    vgff Blue Belt

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    he probably worked with people who he trusted a lot. even trusted them to be able to cheat the system...
     
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  5. IGotAHugePeckah

    IGotAHugePeckah Brown Belt

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    There must be people hard at work trying to find those loopholes. Could make you a fortune
     
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  6. vgff

    vgff Blue Belt

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    of course. the neverending battle to gain an edge. just like criminals try to be a step ahead of the police
     
  7. oldschoolmmafan

    oldschoolmmafan PEOPLE=SHIT

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    Harsher penalties, say 4 years first offense. Life ban second.
     
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  8. Big Tim

    Big Tim קוקוס ג'ו Platinum Member

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    USADA gives the illusion that the sport is clean.
     
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  9. Medulla Omoplata

    Medulla Omoplata Mayberry Comptroller

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    TJ was probably the last one, sport is clean now.
     
  10. E Undead

    E Undead Purple Belt

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    Well they are still unable to detect stuff like HGH when microdosed, even epo is still effective if you aren't an idiot.
     
  11. Mila is My World

    Mila is My World Making Ash Look Good

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    That's some wishful thinking, boss.
     
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  12. Medulla Omoplata

    Medulla Omoplata Mayberry Comptroller

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    Well no one else has tested positive for PEDs since TJ did. I think we can put that whole chapter behind us now. In fact we probably don't even need USADA anymore.
     
  13. Threetrees

    Threetrees The King of Wit and Reason

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    Well you could always snitch
    It's part of the policy and has been
     
  14. kflo

    kflo Steel Belt

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    they already have much harsher penalties than most sports.

    now it get it - it's fighting and they don't fight that frequently to begin with and other fighters safety is at stake.
     
  15. Dorkman

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    It's effective if they don't screen you with the test they got TJ with. They openly claimed they don't scan all the samples with that specific procedure that reveals epo(Cost thing maybe?). But now that it caught a high profile fighter with it, maybe they will now.
     
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  16. hisandherpes

    hisandherpes Blue Belt

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    usada lost all credibility when they let jones cheat with that pulsing bs
     
  17. Only Here for Attachments

    Only Here for Attachments Free from yellow thanks to my state's congress

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    USADA was a facade to entice mainstream companies when UFC was getting ready to sell.
     
  18. E Undead

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    They always come up claiming they have a new method, but at the end of the day they still dont catch all those guys that are on epo for sure, pro cyclists for example. Been the same with HGH prior to the last Olympics. I dont believe it. Microdosing epo is still the way to go.
     
  19. Dorkman

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    Time will tell. I obviously don't have conclusive proof of my post, just what I read in said articles. But my hope is like I said hopefully now that it did get a very high profile fighter they find a way to implement it further if it's a method they previously didn't use on everyhing. HGH is still probably the slipperiest of slopes yes. Has some hallmark physical traits but seemingly no good way to detect the presence, present or past of the chemical within bodyily tissue. Pro cycling has to be one of the dirtiest sports in the world. Basically can't finish the tour de france without doping.
     
  20. DespicablePeep

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    Snitch on himself lol
     

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