How special was Mirko Cro Cop?

[Neck&Neck]

Shame he got KOed by El Shaubi

 

[blaccbeard]

As special as his steroids allowed him to be against freakshows in Luchador Masks and Japanese Pro wrestlers until he faced American drug testing and real competition in legit sanctioned\commissioned fights, and then he immediately was "out of his prime" and fell off a cliff.

 

[crofighter]

Why did you say anything then? You think the millions (and millions) of Crocop supporters just gonna let you ride on through?

Have you heard what happend to @IndyCovaHart ? That leach was always there to put some dirt on CC's name, but I don't see him anywhere anymore. I wonder if he's still ok, I am worried, I grew on him

 

[HHJ]

Have you heard what happend to @IndyCovaHart ? That leach was always there to put some dirt on CC's name, but I don't see him anywhere anymore. I wonder if he's still ok, I am worried, I grew on him

No idea..

 

[Koro_11]

As special as his steroids allowed him to be against freakshows in Luchador Masks and Japanese Pro wrestlers until he faced American drug testing and real competition in legit sanctioned\commissioned fights, and then he immediately was "out of his prime" and fell off a cliff.

Cro Cop = Chamion & Legend
You = hateful uneducated turd

 

[jjoaogbs]

I'm gonna tell it like it is. Cro Cop may have had a few good moments, but let's be real, he was just plain lucky! No real talent there, just luck and hype. People get all crazy about his kicks, but come on, that ain't enough to make you a legit fighter.He couldn't hang with the real contenders, and when he did, he got wrecked! It's all smoke and mirrors with him, nothing more. So don't believe the hype, 'cause Cro Cop was just a lucky one-hit wonder!

 

[blaccbeard]

Cro Cop = Chamion & Legend
You = hateful uneducated turd

Nah i just go by facts and not emotions like a soft ass.

Crocop's former manager already exposed Crocop as the Pride/Yakuza protected favourite to challenge their other protected favourite Fedor. So they pretty much let him cheat in more ways than 1 and coddled him and bent the rules for him with the refs wearing ear pieces like WWE refs to recieve cues from the back to help Crocop.

It's all here, Read it and weep:

https://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/cro-cop-vs-former-manager-miro-mijatovic

and right back atcha

 

[IndyCovaHart]

Have you heard what happend to @IndyCovaHart ? That leach was always there to put some dirt on CC's name, but I don't see him anywhere anymore. I wonder if he's still ok, I am worried, I grew on him

lol don’t care enough anymore

But PRIDE CroCop was definitely a fun time in MMA.

I will never forget what Nog and Monster did to Murko!!!!

 

[Koro_11]

Nah i just go by facts and not emotions like a soft ass.

Crocop's former manager already exposed Crocop as the Pride/Yakuza protected favourite to challenge their other protected favourite Fedor. So they pretty much let him cheat in more ways than 1 and coddled him and bent the rules for him with the refs wearing ear pieces like WWE refs to recieve cues from the back to help Crocop.

It's all here, Read it and weep:

https://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/cro-cop-vs-former-manager-miro-mijatovic

and right back atcha

Oh yeah, facts, the entire MMA community, pundits, and other fellow fighters say one thing, but you, Mr. edge Lord, know more than all of them with your contrarian take.

 

[Yellowcrab]

Oh yeah, facts, the entire MMA community, pundits, and other fellow fighters say one thing, but you, Mr. edge Lord, know more than all of them with your contrarian take.

Nobody cares about your opinion.

Here's what matters to any rational and logical person :

Awful record in the UFC, not even gatekeeper level + a cheater : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirko_Cro_Cop#Failed_drug_test

Exposed just like Fedor who got destroyed by a completely washed out MW.

 

[bartleby929]

He wasn't that special. He was just the original Euro BMF.

 

[SuperNerd]

He was Special-ist

 

[Taric]

Cro Cop was a little overrated, as his ranked hit-list basically consisted of beating Barnett three times, but he had the ability to knock anyone into next Tuesday so he was always a fun watch.

 

[Koro_11]

Nobody cares about your opinion.

Here's what matters to any rational and logical person :

Awful record in the UFC, not even gatekeeper level + a cheater : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirko_Cro_Cop#Failed_drug_test

Exposed just like Fedor who got destroyed by a completely washed out MW.

Not just my opinion, but also the opinion of most fans, pundits and fighters… but again he’s nothing special because you got the real inside scoop and you can post a stretch in his career where he racks up some losses?

I can do the same for Anderson, Silva, B.J., Penn, Fedor Emelianenko, and just about every other great fighter that stuck around long enough.

In his peak, which was from about 2000 up until about 2008, he was consistently one of the 3 toughest men on our planet and his Tyson like aura was something very special in those days and those of us who lived through it can appreciate him for one of those unique characters in mma that will never be replicated.

But whatever, you haters gotta hate.

 

[Yellowcrab]

Not just my opinion, but also the opinion of most fans, pundits and fighters… but again he’s nothing special because you got the real inside scoop and you can post a stretch in his career where he racks up some losses?

No source, just a statement out of nothing while nobody cares about Mirko in reality.

Only Fedor managed to somewhat keep his fake aura, mainly because of nostalgic delusional fanboys like you.

I can do the same for Anderson, Silva, B.J., Penn, Fedor Emelianenko, and just about every other great fighter that stuck around long enough.

No you can't. Fedor has nothing special, so no wonder you can find humiliating losses in his record.

Anderson Silva started to shine once he was out of the japanese circus show ruled by yakuzas and without any drug testing.

He has a very good record in the UFC until he became old, that's what really matters.

 

[Nathan LaMontagne]

Mirko is a living legend and despites the fact that he never captured a real Pride or UFC belt he will still be remembered as a true pioneer and legend of the sport, way before some real champs.

He was a top K1 fighter during an era which I would consider the best or at least second best time in K1, he later went on and won the last official k1 tournament ever (don't forget the first tournament was won by Branko Cikatic who was Mirkos coach at the very beginning of his career), he was a top2 fighter in pride and won the last OWGP, and he went out on a 10 fight winning streak.

His UFC run was disappointing for all of us but in retrospective I am not shocked he did not bloom in this new environment where he didn't feel comfortable at all, and I think I know the reason for that.

I've followed Mirko for a long time, inside and outside the ring/octagon, and without any hate or negative feelings I can say that Mirko has some tendencies which would make me believe that he has some slight autism. Again, this is no hate but just the summary of the observations I have had over the last 2 decades. Autism doesn't mean he is stupid, no vice versa actually, Mirko is partially a very intelligent man and you can discuss some high brain topics with him if he is into them. But that's how most people with slight autism are...

I have rarely seen a person which is so much into repetition and especially a routine life as Mirko, which shows not only in his training where from a young age he would train single punches and kicks over thousands and thousands of time without getting bored by them, but also in his daily routine which basically didn't change since he was a teenager. Its enough to say that he hasn't changed his nutrition and eating habits since he was a kid, he only eats a small portfolio of things and he eats that every fucking day since like 40 years, and if he is forced to eat something different (as for example in hotels before fights) he is pissed and hard to deal with (as also trainings partners confirmed who travelled with him). The same goes for his family vacation, the guy, despites living in a beautiful country with one of the best coasts in Europe, only travels to 2 destinations, which of course, he visits since he is a kid. Slavonia where he was born and Pula in Istria, where they used to go for vacation with his parents. He never goes anywhere else, really never, not even take his kids to typical destinations which parents with his financial situation would do 100%.

Moreover, his unwillingness to train outside of the comfort zone of his own backyard seems more like a xenophobia from other places than just pure comfort. And thats also the point why he is his own coach! Coaches challenge their students and try to bring in new stuff, Mirko doesn't like to do stuff he didn't plan with and he wants to know what he will do from start to beginning, this is why he plans his training. As mentioned in the paragraph above he never travels anywhere unknown and if he has to he will only stay the bare minimum time there, this is why he never arrived earlier to an Event and tried to acclimate or deal with a jetlag, he just accepted it. Japan became a small exception as he traveled there so many times so sometimes he would stay one, two, three days longer and train in a gym of somebody he knew, but all that is far away from training camps we know from other people. As another example, for his Gonzaga rematch in Poland they travelled by Bus from Croatia to Poland, like 9h, and immediately after the fight went back. He said its much more comfortable to travel that way because he is in a known surrounding, a car, and with his friends, instead of taking a 1h flight from Zagreb to Warszaw where he would need to enter an airport.

Basically what I wanted to say is that I think he couldn't bloom in the UFC because he didn't feel comfortable in there. He said it so many times that he just doesn't feel well in the UFC and I believe him. Mirko never liked change and once he felt uncomfortable he wasn't able to perform on 100%. You could see he didn't want to be in there, although his training performance was better than it used to be.

Long live Mirko CroCop Filipovic

Fascinating post.

As a very long time fan of crocop and PRIDE in general. There is a LOT here I didn't know.

Crocop always gave me grumpy old man vibes.

My grandfather had a lot of the same qualities, eating the same stuff for years. Same restaurants. Same orders etc.

 

[Koro_11]

No source, just a statement out of nothing while nobody cares about Mirko in reality.

Only Fedor managed to somewhat keep his fake aura, mainly because of nostalgic delusional fanboys like you.



No you can't. Fedor has nothing special, so no wonder you can find humiliating losses in his record.

Anderson Silva started to shine once he was out of the japanese circus show ruled by yakuzas and without any drug testing.

He has a very good record in the UFC until he became old, that's what really matters.

Now Fedor was nothing special either? LOL

You’re a clown, I’m done here.

 

[DayV]

Cro Cop was a little overrated, as his ranked hit-list basically consisted of beating Barnett three times, but he had the ability to knock anyone into next Tuesday so he was always a fun watch.

Cro Cop is actually among the HW's in MMA history with highest number of ranked wins, with 9 Top 10 ranked HW wins.
Only Fedor, Nogueira, Stipe, Werdum & Overeem have more than him.
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/top-10-wins-of-mma-fighters-list.3383459/

Mirko also has many good wins that were not ranked at the time, but were against good and notable fighters, a lot more than the most.
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/tck-star-rating-system-the-heavyweights.4106864/
For example, Coleman was not ranked for Cro Cop, but Stipe is highly ranked in 2023 in UFC, and will stay ranked for the Jones bout wihout having a fight for almost 3 years.

 

[Dickie Greenleaf]

Fedor was nothing special, so no wonder you can find humiliating losses in his record.

Lol shertard clown post of the day.

 

[crofighter]

Cro Cop is actually among the HW's in MMA history with highest number of ranked wins, with 9 Top 10 ranked HW wins.
Only Fedor, Nogueira, Stipe, Werdum & Overeem have more than him.
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/top-10-wins-of-mma-fighters-list.3383459/

Mirko also has many good wins that were not ranked at the time, but were against good and notable fighters, a lot more than the most.
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/tck-star-rating-system-the-heavyweights.4106864/
For example, Coleman was not ranked for Cro Cop, but Stipe is highly ranked in 2023 in UFC, and will stay ranked for the Jones bout wihout having a fight for almost 3 years.

Cro Cop really has a lot of good wins, when you put them in the context of that time. For example take Ishii. People nowadays might think that was nothing worth mentioning, but you just have to remind yourself that Ishii at that time was at 8 win win-streak with wins over some notable HWs like Sylvia, Pedro Rizzo, Jeff Monson, Fujita, De Fries etc. and was widely regarded as the best HW outside of UFC.