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How long before gimmick boxing dies for good

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100 plus years later this question shouldn't be asked anymore.
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Why should it end? It has no bearing on legitimate profeasional boxing, and is overall good for the sport of boxing. Think of all the people that got paid on the Jake Paul card.
That's like asking "why do comedy movies exist? We should only have oscar-seeking drama movies!"
Bunch of clowns trying to gatekeep boxing.
 
JudoJabs said:
I think we are downplaying what he has done, sadly. Many of us didn’t think he would beat Ben, definitely not Woodley and Silva. At some point we have to look in the mirror. Was this something we just learned (MMA guys getting beat up by a guy that just took up the sport), or was our expectation just completely off?
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There are few things that are contributing to his success which we all overlooked. He is a decent athlete, disciplined, and was reasonably wealthy before he started fighting. He, smartly, invested in the best coaches he could afford and quality sparring partners. He is fighting smaller and/or physically impaired (due to age and being shopworn) MMA fighters. Don't forget this dude is all of 26 years old and doesn't have a lifetime of training and fighting, and the accumulated injuries that come with that lifetime, in the rear view mirror. For me the lesson is that shopworn MMA fighters are terrible boxing purists. Nothing more. Anderson Silva is the lone outlier but also don't forget that was 47, that's right 47, year old Anderson Silva. We all love Anderson but he isn't Bernard Hopkins. Lastly, Askren and Woodley are wrestlers by trade, not boxers. Diaz is brain dead and showed up for the paycheck. All excellent choices for boxing by Jake.
 
Tough to say... I feel like it has existed for waves at a time since celebrity boxing was a thing.
 
SuwoopBangin said:
Why should it end? It has no bearing on legitimate profeasional boxing, and is overall good for the sport of boxing. Think of all the people that got paid on the Jake Paul card.
That's like asking "why do comedy movies exist? We should only have oscar-seeking drama movies!"
Bunch of clowns trying to gatekeep boxing.
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It’s nothing like that actually.
 
It’s been happening since the 90s. Ain’t stopping anytime soon
 
This is the era of gimmicks boxing, not gimmick boxing.

It’ll last as long as the gimmicks do, which is too long already.
 
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Welterskelter said:
How long before the profit bubble pops? When will people get wise to the gimmick and when will promoters like Jake Paul stop making money from these shitty entertainment events?
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it's always been around only now, there are so many other avenues to stir shit up. There were always the "all in" or circus type fights, always fighters going across styles, dempsey fought wrestlers and Joe Louis did wrestling after boxing. As long as fighters fight for money and old fighters with a name need money, it'll happen. It's undignified for sure and it's pretty stupid in many cases. With Ali, you had a multimillion dollar property and your risking that with some nobody from Japan. They say Ali was facing amputation after the inoki fight. As if he wasn't taking enough damage in boxing. Others say that exhibition permanently hastened his decline in the legs department. Then.., get this, most stupid of all, he has to fight Ken Norton for the third time only a few short months later, his toughest opponent.

Goes the other way too, I think Dempsey did permanent eye damage to Cowboy Luttrell in their boxing match.

Two ways to get rid of it, fighters having enough pride in their craft to say no to the money or the challenge or fans not paying one red cent. Neither very likely.
 
Corrado Soprano said:
A Youtuber is wrecking MMA fighters in combat sports.
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Correction: Retired MMA fighters who don’t care about a boxing record are getting paid the biggest payday of their life to lose to a popular YouTuber.
 
NoStoneUnturned said:
Isn't that because Jake was wealthy and able to hire the best coaches? Now he works hard and has some grit, has to, doesn't mean he deserves respect for beating up physically shot smaller MMA fighters looking for a paycheck. He picks carefully.
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Serious question: whether he has good coaches or not, do you think Jake is a good boxer? What do you think of his technique, his footwork, his reflexes? He looks terrible to me. Like a beginner. Not even amateur.
 
Welterskelter said:
Serious question: whether he has good coaches or not, do you think Jake is a good boxer? What do you think of his technique, his footwork, his reflexes? He looks terrible to me. Like a beginner. Not even amateur.
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I noted above I've never watched a celebrity boxing match and I never will. I've only seen brief highlights. From what I hear via podcasts he is very disciplined and works hard to be whatever it is he is.
 
It's always been around, there are just a lot more paths to promote such a thing these days:



 
NoStoneUnturned said:
I noted above I've never watched a celebrity boxing match and I never will. I've only seen brief highlights. From what I hear via podcasts he is very disciplined and works hard to be whatever it is he is.
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That’s a good policy.
 
Welterskelter said:
Serious question: whether he has good coaches or not, do you think Jake is a good boxer? What do you think of his technique, his footwork, his reflexes? He looks terrible to me. Like a beginner. Not even amateur.
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he's not good, he telegraphs and he's slow, he can get away with those flaws. Fury wasn't much better but he was able to beat him. I'm sure he could beat most mma fighters if it's just boxing. He's doing the smart thing and not fighting good boxers.
 
Welterskelter said:
Serious question: whether he has good coaches or not, do you think Jake is a good boxer? What do you think of his technique, his footwork, his reflexes? He looks terrible to me. Like a beginner. Not even amateur.
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He's okay for a guy with ZERO amateur experience and only three years of boxing training
Will he box long enough to be a good boxer? Probably not, but he's definitely a "real boxer"
 
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