How good was Prime Colby?

[TerraRayzing]

Just noticed that he is out of the top 5 (finally) and I'm pretty sure he will never be a champion again. How good was Prime Colby? His cardio was super impressive but idk if he has any amazing wins, sans RDA. Maia, Lawler, Woodley and Masvidal were clearly past it and while he had two competitive matches with Usman, he lost both. I I think he could have beaten Woodley if he accepted the fight that later went to Usman but he didn't and then he spent the next several years milking his two fights with Usman, got a gift title shot, came back and lost to Leon and I dunno when he will fight again.
How good was Prime Colby? Would he be able to compete with the top welterweights of today? Belal, Shavkat, JDM and Brady?

 

[Lord Pyjamas]

pretty good
probably could have competed but felt becoming a whore for the UFC was safer money.
Did I just end this thread?

 

[ryun253]

Good contender, but not good enough to be a champion

 

[TerraRayzing]

Good contender, but not good enough to be a champion

I think he was a stylistic nightmare for Woodley imo. Dunno why he rejected the fight.

 

[FreddieRoachsVoice]

Clearly not good enough to beat anyone who wasn't already on a losing streak. In all seriousness, I would say he is a top 15-top 20ish WW of all time at best. None of his wins are particularly impressive even at the times they occurred and his best perfomances were all losses.

If he wasn't consistently on the shelf and then inexplicably inserted into the title picture over and over again, I think he would have had many more losses to other contenders.

 

[Striker Fox]

I think his best win was his 48-47 win against LW RDA

Woodley and Lawler were completely out of it by the time they fought Colby, and Maia was at the end over 40 years old and only beating cans after

 

[ryun253]

I think he was a stylistic nightmare for Woodley imo. Dunno why he rejected the fight.

Same, that was his real shot at becoming champ. Maybe he got roughed up at ATT and didn't feel confident

 

[GOATtalks]

Clearly not good enough to beat anyone who wasn't already on a losing streak. In all seriousness, I would say he is a top 15-top 20ish WW of all time at best. None of his wins are particularly impressive even at the times they occurred and his best perfomances were all losses.

If he wasn't consistently on the shelf and then inexplicably inserted into the title picture over and over again, I think he would have had many more losses to other contenders.

Lol. Name at least 15 WW’s that you think are in front of him! I’ll wait

 

[kingofthecans]

Second place is first place loser. So number 1!!!!!

 

[FreddieRoachsVoice]

Lol. Name at least 15 WW’s that you think are in front of him! I’ll wait

1) GSP
2) Matt Hughes
3) Kamaru Usman
4) Jake Shields
5) Leon Edwards
6) Jon Fitch
7) Belal Muhammad
8) Pat Miletich
9) Tyron Woodley
10) Robbie Lawler
11) Johny Hendricks
12) Rory Macdonald
13) Nick Diaz
14) BJ Penn
15) Carlos Condit


Should I list more? I'm sorry but barely blanketed a LW with a career long history of struggling with wrestlers is not exactly a career defining win nor is getting sloppy 3rds on Woodley and Lawler when both were clearly done. Even Thiago Alves, Demian Maia, and Wonderboy Thompson had much more impressive roads to a title shot than Colby did. I'd bet money that Martin Kampmann would have beat Covington too Prime vs Prime if Colby actually showed up.

The guy was absolutely spoonfed his entire UFC career and still couldn't notch an impressive resume in an extremely thin era of the division. WW has a long and storied history... recency bias and the UFC hype machine has clearly worked on you but Colby is not, nor was he ever, an elite fighter

 

[TheBulge]

Wasted most of his potential. I will say he had an exciting style with a high peak and quick crash. It takes a lot out of you to fight like that, and I think he knew which is one of the reasons he rarely fought and spread out his big fights over the years.

At his peak certainly good enough to be champ looking at his fights against Usman, a top 3 ATG WW.

 

[Masturbin]

Good enough to beat top guy and beat washed up fighters.

Not good enough to be the man.

 

[smart.feller]

At the time, he was a solid top 3 contender...always the bridesmaid.

He and Cejudo wasted their primes playing stupid games.

 

[Gamboal]

He was decent but had a penchant for picking old, past it opponents to make it seem like he was better than he was.

I'm glad he's kinda retired now as his pitter patter points winning style is trash.

 

[Masturbin]

Same, that was his real shot at becoming champ. Maybe he got roughed up at ATT and didn't feel confident

I hate the guy but let's be fair.
He won the interim belt, then tried to have surgery for his nose and then got stripped because he was taking too long (4 months is too long for the ufc)

But yeah could still have a bit of fear after getting whooped at the gym by prime Twood

 

[wh4tttt]

Steakhouse Colby is where it all fell apart.

 

[PaulieVegas27]

Jesus, why are we talking about this guy, like we need to feed him the need for attention he craves.

 

[Dr Fong]

From the same proud lineage as Chael Sonnen before him and Sean Strickland after him. Create a controversial character to distract from the fact you are only capable of limp-wristed pillow slaps and can't finish a sandwich.

Good fighter. Relentless cardio - probably used innovative techniques such as the hyperbaric chamber that gave TJ Dillashaw his cardio. Very tough. Obviously good wrestling.

But his striking was dogshit and he mostly feasted on the elderly to fool simps, facilitated by a compliant U Fight Cheap brass.

Only elite win of his career over a non-corpse was an undersized RDA in a fight that many scored for RDA.

Would never have deserved his level of prominence if this was a proper sport. But of course, it isn't a proper sport.

 

[Misanthropist]

He would’ve gotten the belt easily if prime Usman wasn’t around or fought in MW. He was the only one who went tooth and nails with him for 5 rounds. Whereas everyone else got ragdolled ala Snoozeman style then switched style to stiffing everyone until he faced Leon.

 

[AdamWarlock]

1) GSP
2) Matt Hughes
3) Kamaru Usman
4) Jake Shields
5) Leon Edwards
6) Jon Fitch
7) Belal Muhammad
8) Pat Miletich
9) Tyron Woodley
10) Robbie Lawler
11) Johny Hendricks
12) Rory Macdonald
13) Nick Diaz
14) BJ Penn
15) Carlos Condit


Should I list more? I'm sorry but barely blanketed a LW with a career long history of struggling with wrestlers is not exactly a career defining win nor is getting sloppy 3rds on Woodley and Lawler when both were clearly done. Even Thiago Alves, Demian Maia, and Wonderboy Thompson had much more impressive roads to a title shot than Colby did. I'd bet money that Martin Kampmann would have beat Covington too Prime vs Prime if Colby actually showed up.

The guy was absolutely spoonfed his entire UFC career and still couldn't notch an impressive resume in an extremely thin era of the division. WW has a long and storied history... recency bias and the UFC hype machine has clearly worked on you but Colby is not, nor was he ever, an elite fighter

lol at anyone putting hughes in front of usman

also lol Colby would destroy 80 percent of this list

Pat Miletich？ Woodley？ Diaz？ Rory? Condit? Lawler?

are you fucking retarded?