How dominant is Khabib without a cage?

[Benoitthegr8]

Khabib fans are so fun to torment

 

[Crockett]

The floor is an artificial construct.

They should fight in zero G.

In a vacuum.

At absolute zero.

I think the point is that a cage/wall is an arbitrary construct vs using something like a moat around the octagon.

The moat would be an equally effective barrier and would not change the outcome of, say, a Silva-Belfort fight, however Khabib's fighting style heavily utilizes the cage and his fights would look different.

 

[Deadwing88]

Name 5 opponents you would consider top 5 on his resume?

1. RDA.
2. Poirier.
3. McGregor.
4. Barboza.

Were all ranked in the top 5 when he fought them.. and for reference, Tony has only 2 top 5 wins on his resume.

Michael Johnson was 6th in the rankings.. he was coming off a KO over Poirier.

So you've backtracked from claiming he has only fought 3 legit opponents..to who was ranked top 5.

 

[Talon81]

I think the point is that a cage/wall is an arbitrary construct vs using something like a moat around the octagon.

The moat would be an equally effective barrier and would not change the outcome of, say, a Silva-Belfort fight, however Khabib's fighting style heavily utilizes the cage and his fights would look different.

Khabib would be constantly scaring them into the moat. Lets be real, the reason he can use the cage is because they are constantly backpedaling to avoid the takedown. Add a moat and now you just have his opponents drowning.

So while we are thinking about ways to purposely make Khabib less effective, lets imagine a fight with no standups and no rounds, 12-6 elbows, etc

 

[Iroh]

but why ? if there's no limit, theirs no fight just running. And if you put subjective rules, you ll make the fight less realistic, the fight will have to stop everytime someone cross the limit a bit like the grappling matches today etc.

Go watch Sanda fights or taekewendo if you are interested in fight without cage or ring. it is much much less entertaining than MMA or Muay thai because fighters just avoid confrontation every time. ( how can you blame them, if there's no barrier ... )

Rules are already subjective. You just need to make adequate rules and regulations.

The fighting would not be that much less realistic. The octagon environment isn't too realistic either. In real life your environment can be anything of an extreme variety of things.

I like Sanda and Taekwondo too, but obviously those are different sports.

You can find the idea not exciting enough. That's okay. I said I'd like to see it. I also said it wouldn't be replacing the cage, so in my fantasy you'd still be able to view what you'd like, bud.

 

[Iroh]

The floor is an artificial construct.

They should fight in zero G.

In a vacuum.

At absolute zero.

Zero G Fighting Championship! ZGFC!

Or they could fight at the edge of the world. Flat Earth Fighting Championsihip! FEFC!

 

[Dirge]

Many of Khabib's fights end with his opponent trapped on the ground between him and the fence, and often the final sequence of a Khabib fight starts against the cage.

Would his style be any less effective in a boxing or sumo style ring or environment with different boundaries?

Kind of an odd question, what does it matter? We will never see Khabib fight in a ring unless he heads off to some scrub league after leaving the UFC.

It's like asking how effective is a race car driver in a speed boat race?

 

[Beherit]

Rules are already subjective. You just need to make adequate rules and regulations.

The fighting would not be that much less realistic. The octagon environment isn't too realistic either. In real life your environment can be anything of an extreme variety of things.

I like Sanda and Taekwondo too, but obviously those are different sports.

You can find the idea not exciting enough. That's okay. I said I'd like to see it. I also said it wouldn't be replacing the cage, so in my fantasy you'd still be able to view what you'd like, bud.

rules are subjective, that's why less you have the better. Your idea is to more rules, it is bad if you want to recreate a fight.

Fights are rarely in the open to begin with, you are most likely next to a wall, so fighting in a cage is less fare fetched than fighting in the open, which human don't do since the age of stones ...

They are many footage of combat sport without cage or ring, and it is less entertaining, less finishes, more footwork.

The only way to limit that is to put in a place a point system like in wrestling or sanda, but then it would looks like more like a match than a fight. fighters would just pressure each other to win points instead of looking for real KO. Fighters prefers to lose a point than getting KOed.

 

[Iroh]

rules are subjective, that's why less you have the better. Your idea is to more rules, it is bad if you want to recreate a fight.

I already said I don't want to do it to make it more realistic, so why are you arguing that point?

You can think it's not exciting, bud. I don't care. I wasn't imagining it for you to find it exciting.

 

[JAL]

day 845: another excuse to downplay khabibs dominance

 

[XNYHCX]

How effective would he or any other be in a car or a stairwell or an elevator? That's when it gets gritty.

 

[ChickenBrother]

Here is the outcome of every Khabib fight not in a cage:

marked:

 

[Moro]

Lol so now you wanna take the cage away from Khabib AND let Conor cheat as many times as he wants? Is that the only possible way Conor fans see a way for him to win?

Khabib still starches Conor in any possible way, 100/100 for Khabib.

 

[Murder_KickHC]

Dominant? As if Khabib would be anywhere near top 20 without cage to exploit lmao

 

[orca]

He didn't used the cage that much early in his career.

NOW here it is,, ts are u satisified ? close this fckin thread

 

[Bork Neslar]

Who cares

 

[JBJISGOAT]

That's not what I was even arguing, you're the clown if you can't even fucking read. He didnt have great competition because there simply wasn't any. You want me to spell it out for you ?

Damn you are a clown…keep back pedaling in each reply. Done wasting my precious time on an illiterate muppet like you.

 

[JBJISGOAT]

1. RDA.
2. Poirier.
3. McGregor.
4. Barboza.

Were all ranked in the top 5 when he fought them.. and for reference, Tony has only 2 top 5 wins on his resume.

Michael Johnson was 6th in the rankings.. he was coming off a KO over Poirier.

So you've backtracked from claiming he has only fought 3 legit opponents..to who was ranked top 5.

LMAO if Connie is the best fighter on your resume than it’s an utter shit resume. Not even 5 top 5 wins and have to eek barboza on there lol who Kevin Lee fucked up. Hell even Poirier beat up a featherweight to get his shot. Khabib is an overrated fighter with an over exaggerated resume and his fanboys are all like you! All show, no substance. You are getting owned, save your dignity and leave my son!

Here is you ITT:

 

[Deadwing88]

LMAO if Connie is the best fighter on your resume than it’s an utter shit resume. Not even 5 top 5 wins and have to eek barboza on there lol who Kevin Lee fucked up. Hell even Poirier beat up a flyweight to get his shot. Khabib is an overrated fighter with an over exaggerated resume and his fanboys are all like you! All show, no substance. You are getting owned, save your dignity and leave my son!

Here is you ITT:
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Thanks for confirming that your a fucking retard..

Poirier beat a flyweight..? Holloway was the featherweight champion.

Read my post again.. McGregor isn't his best win. RDA most definitely is.. one of the all time great LW's.

 

[Willie]

Thanks for confirming that your a fucking retard..

Poirier beat a flyweight..? Holloway was the featherweight champion.

Lol, he has no arguments then insults people for calling him out, and jon jones fan apparently too. Explains a lot.