How does Natalia Silva fare against Valentina?

[helooo]

I think Natalia’s style is unique and is still show improving. I don’t think Valentina can keep her down for prolonged periods of time.

Manon forced Valentina to use her striking, but it’s obvious if she fought Natalia she wouldn’t want to be one the feet against such a nimble and sharp striker despite her striking accolades. She panic wrestled when Alexa dropped her in the second fight. Thoughts?

I think we need to talk more about women in their menopause. Next topic women in their 80's don't need to shave because ........

 

[aerius]

Natalia has all the same kicks as Val does, except Natalia throws from both stances, and keeps a higher output with her kicks than val does. I do not see Val winning the kicking range battle as she usually does, which would be a rare scenario for val to find herself in. I really do think the speed of Silva is going to give val a lot of issues here, too, especially at val's age.

To be honest though, I'm not sure if this is the fight that's next for Val. They might do Zhang vs. Val.

Everyone fighting Valentina gets their striking output tanked by a good 40-50% compared to usual, counting on volume to win is a losing bet. Also, Val has a black belt in TKD so she knows how Silva's kicks work since it's something she's trained since she was a kid.

Then there's defence and reads. Natalia's had a lot of success kicking so far since her opponents aren't good at reading, defending, and countering them. They always block or eat the kick and reset which allows Silva to retract her kicking leg and bounce back out of range, Valentina will often time & punch or kick her opponents at the same time they're trying to kick her which is how she dominated Fiorot in the 1st round and spinning kicked her later in the fight. This is gonna be a problem for Natalia since she usually leaves her head straight up in the air and right on the centre line when she kicks, and it's the same with most of her strikes when she's the one stepping in.

 

[Eater of Souls]

Everyone fighting Valentina gets their striking output tanked by a good 40-50% compared to usual, counting on volume to win is a losing bet. Also, Val has a black belt in TKD so she knows how Silva's kicks work since it's something she's trained since she was a kid.

Then there's defence and reads. Natalia's had a lot of success kicking so far since her opponents aren't good at reading, defending, and countering them. They always block or eat the kick and reset which allows Silva to retract her kicking leg and bounce back out of range, Valentina will often time & punch or kick her opponents at the same time they're trying to kick her which is how she dominated Fiorot in the 1st round and spinning kicked her later in the fight. This is gonna be a problem for Natalia since she usually leaves her head straight up in the air and right on the centre line when she kicks, and it's the same with most of her strikes when she's the one stepping in.

Also Val's control and distance is the best out of the women in the UFC. Silva was easily able to catch Grasso as she was trying to close the distance to punching range. Val can sit on the outside and wait for opportunities that were not present for Grasso Saturday night. And while Silva has amazing TDD Shevchenko generally mixes in her takedowns with her striking a lot better than most which can possibly limit some of the offence from Silva.

 

[DiazSlap]

Why does it bother you if other people talk about it???

Why are you interested in WMMA? It’s odd…

 

[Dreyga Hates You Sherbums]

Why are you interested in WMMA? It’s odd…

Why wouldn't I be?? What so odd about it??

 

[DiazSlap]

Why wouldn't I be?? What so odd about it??

Come on man, it’s boring AF.

 

[Dreyga Hates You Sherbums]

Come on man, it’s boring AF.

I don’t agree that women’s MMA is boring. I think it’s unfairly judged—when a male fighter has a dull performance, people just criticize that one fighter, but when it’s a woman, they often generalize it to all of women’s MMA. That’s not only inaccurate, it’s prejudiced. The excitement level of any given fight is unpredictable and rarely tied to gender. People just have a cognitive bias against female fighters, and it skews their perception.

 

[DiazSlap]

I don’t agree that women’s MMA is boring. I think it’s unfairly judged—when a male fighter has a dull performance, people just criticize that one fighter, but when it’s a woman, they often generalize it to all of women’s MMA. That’s not only inaccurate, it’s prejudiced. The excitement level of any given fight is unpredictable and rarely tied to gender. People just have a cognitive bias against female fighters, and it skews their perception.

You were entertained by Brazilian Holly Holm vs Alex Grasso?

 

[fortheo]

Everyone fighting Valentina gets their striking output tanked by a good 40-50% compared to usual, counting on volume to win is a losing bet. Also, Val has a black belt in TKD so she knows how Silva's kicks work since it's something she's trained since she was a kid.

Then there's defence and reads. Natalia's had a lot of success kicking so far since her opponents aren't good at reading, defending, and countering them. They always block or eat the kick and reset which allows Silva to retract her kicking leg and bounce back out of range, Valentina will often time & punch or kick her opponents at the same time they're trying to kick her which is how she dominated Fiorot in the 1st round and spinning kicked her later in the fight. This is gonna be a problem for Natalia since she usually leaves her head straight up in the air and right on the centre line when she kicks, and it's the same with most of her strikes when she's the one stepping in.

Well, hopefully we find out. I think val will have a difficult time timing natalia because of the speed. Personally I like natalia's chances a lot more than anyone else who has fought Val lately.

 

[fortheo]

Also Val's control and distance is the best out of the women in the UFC. Silva was easily able to catch Grasso as she was trying to close the distance to punching range. Val can sit on the outside and wait for opportunities that were not present for Grasso Saturday night. And while Silva has amazing TDD Shevchenko generally mixes in her takedowns with her striking a lot better than most which can possibly limit some of the offence from Silva.

I don't see Val timing a takedown from kicking range. She times them when people pressure in past kicking range, which silva almost never does because she prefers long range

 

[NoSmilez]

Silva is small. Valentina tends to run over strikers on the ground especially if they are physically weaker than her. Silva is not strong in the clinch either.

 

[Dreyga Hates You Sherbums]

You were entertained by Brazilian Holly Holm vs Alex Grasso?

I’ve been a big Natalia Silva fan since her UFC debut against Jasmine Jadavious a couple years back and have been closely watching her climb up the rankings.

I think she’s a very exciting fighter to watch. She dominated a former world champion in dynamic fashion. I’ve actually went back and watched a couple times.

I think she has an amazing variety of kicks. She landed several flashy kicks on Grasso. She has very fast hands and always throws with bad intentions. And her footwork is miles ahead of pretty much everyone else in the division. I think Natalia is a future champion.

 

[Kaiokenrye24]

I’ve been a big Natalia Silva fan since her UFC debut against Jasmine Jadavious a couple years back and closet watching her climb up the rankings.

I think she’s a very exciting fighter to watch. She dominated a former world champion in dynamic fashion. I’ve actually went back and watched a couple times.

I think she has an amazing variety of kicks. She landed several flash. Kicks on grass. She has very fast hands and always throws with bad intentions. And her footwork is miles ahead of pretty much everyone else in the division. I think Natalia is a future champion.

She housed Jasmine so bad

 

[Kaiokenrye24]

Exactly, what are all these WMMA threads popping up all of a sudden?

Aunt Dana be paying people on here…

He gave me a sick 50% off reebok coupon, one time use only

 

[DiazSlap]

He gave me a sick 50% off reebok coupon, one time use only

Damn…but if you read the fine print, you have to spend $250 minimum.

 

[Mmmmmmma1234]

I said it right after Silva one she'd be a big problem for Val. Val still going to have a better technical movement but the speed and stamina will swing it to Silva. I don't see the wrestling a factor if val shoots she won't get her down for anything meaningful.
That said I was sure Manon would beat val but val surprised me and her with loading up some big rights to s tart. So maybe she will have another trick for Silva.

 

[Mmmmmmma1234]

Silva is small. Valentina tends to run over strikers on the ground especially if they are physically weaker than her. Silva is not strong in the clinch either.

What makes you think Silva is weak? She's throwing off takedowns from the biggest flyweight wrestlers like jas bleda and araujo like nothing.

 

[jnes]

I don't care, Valentina has been boring for so long. Put her on a fight night to stop sinking up PPVs.

 

[NoSmilez]

What makes you think Silva is weak? She's throwing off takedowns from the biggest flyweight wrestlers like jas bleda and araujo like nothing.

Silva doesn't quite know how to move in the clinch or strike while locked up. It's from that fight with Jas that I saw that she can be controlled. Jas had the body lock so many times in the fight. It took until the 3rd round then Silva went for a counter in the clinch. It's an old fight but as long as Valentina can get to the waist then Silva is in trouble.

We all see what happens when Valentina can get the bodylock. She has more options than Jas. Valentina isn't just going to hold someone against the fence. The only time Valentina struggled in that position is against a taller/stronger opponent like Santos. She split 50/50 in that position with Santos. Fiorot had some success with Valentina in that position too. Letting Valentina get the bodylock is almost a losing position for a smaller opponent.

 

[Geniusss]

She outpoints Shevchenko at her own game.

Which means..

Shevchenko will probably duck her, by calling out the SW Champion.

That went so well before. She’s fought two ex-SW.

But the last time she ducked a real challenge.

She ducked the rematch with Santos. And ducked the trilogy with Amanda.

And handpicked Grasso who was ranked 6th. The queen of arrogance tapped out.

Cosmic justice.

Lol the SW champion is the one calling her out, and the fans are also the ones calling for that champ vs champ fight

She didn't duck the rematch with Santos, Santos got injured and was out for like a whole year and Valentina wasn't gonna wait that long also she left the UFC so...

She didn't pick Grasso, the UFC did. You sre acting like she can really pick her opponents.

And the trilogy with Amanda was never on the table, if anything she always said she wanted to run that one back but never was offered