How did Bo rationalize Ed Ruth?

[Meathead Jock]

I forgot all about Ed Ruth. I remember when he signed with Bellator and a bunch of people here said the UFC was sinking because they were missing on guys like Ed. Ed would be the next great wrestler turned MMA fighter and he'd take over the sport.

I was one of those people. I found Ed Ruth to be a much more exciting prospect than Bo, so I didn't ever fully understand the Bo hype. Ruth was a better MMA prospect on paper and failed out already.

 

[Mammothman]

Is Bo short for Bobert or Bobsicle?

Bobalicon

 

[jsbx45]

That is an interesting question TS. Let's not write Bo off completely yet either. It's not like Ed Ruth totally sucked. I know this loss isn't a good look for Bo, but folks are rushing to the "he's done" conclusion really quickly.

 

[Hymen Crusher]

Bo looks like he is scared to get hit. I don't care how good you are you are getting hit in mma. It's unavoidable. Shit even boxing you can sort of avoid it. If that's just a one off fine, but if its real he is done

 

[evergreenrider]

Is Bo short for Bobert or Bobsicle?

Boseph

 

[Kenny Powerth]

Short for Bo-Ner

 

[KungFuCow]

Royce Alger

Another one.

 

[El Panteron]

That is an interesting question TS. Let's not write Bo off completely yet either. It's not like Ed Ruth totally sucked. I know this loss isn't a good look for Bo, but folks are rushing to the "he's done" conclusion really quickly.

De Ridder might have been too much too soon for Bo. He didn't exactly blow anyone's mind in his last couple of fights, won one with a low blow too. De Ridder had 21 fights to Bo's 7.
In the end Ed Ruth retired with few fights as well, maybe if he took the time to learn to put his skills together and grapple more effectively in the cage he'd have been a nice fighter too.

 

[Meathead Jock]

De Ridder might have been too much too soon for Bo. He didn't exactly blow anyone's mind in his last couple of fights, won one with a low blow too. De Ridder had 21 fights to Bo's 7.
In the end Ed Ruth retired with few fights as well, maybe if he took the time to learn to put his skills together and grapple more effectively in the cage he'd have been a nice fighter too.

Ruth's problem was actually that he almost never wrestled in MMA for some reason.

It was as if he figured he would never reach the top without improving his striking and he had freakishly long reach, so he basically used used his striking and not his wrestling at all.

Maybe he just did it to expose the truth to himself more quickly so he wouldn't waste time on something if it didn't come quick, I don't know. But I remember getting mad that Ruth never took his opponents down. I figured he could unleash a Jon Jones style hElbows from on top.

 

[El Panteron]

Ruth's problem was actually that he almost never wrestled in MMA for some reason.

It was as if he figured he would never reach the top without improving his striking and he had freakishly long reach, so he basically used used his striking and not his wrestling at all.

Maybe he just did it to expose the truth to himself more quickly so he wouldn't waste time on something if it didn't come quick, I don't know. But I remember getting mad that Ruth never took his opponents down. I figured he could unleash a Jon Jones style hElbows from on top.

Could have been a cardio thing too.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

There's plenty of D1 wrestlers who don't make it past the regionals nowadays.

I think with Bo he's just a confident guy and looks for things that will help him with that mindset. He's lost one fight, I don't think this is the end although according to teh dawg if you lose one fight you might as well retire.

 

[Meathead Jock]

Could have been a cardio thing too.

Could be. Ruth (and Pico) were my two favorite green high level wrestlers signed during that period. Ruth is a very relaxed and calm individual and it just looked like at times he needed a bit of a spark or urgency to get him to the next level. His striking wasn't better than other strikers but it was good enough if he mixed in the wrestling. Ruth had every tool you'd want, and didn't have a disappointing frame like Bo, but didnt make it work.

 

[Meathead Jock]

. He's lost one fight, I don't think this is the end although according to teh dawg if you lose one fight you might as well retire.

In a way it just depends what you want from the sport. Big you can't contend for a title you're getting hit in the face for small money. Bo probably has a better deal than most. But is it worth sticking around the UFC if you're going to be stuck in that 12-25th ranking at the weight class if you have a college degree and aren't desperate for money?

I'd say that's up to the individual. He belongs in the UFC, but it just doesn't feel worthwhile to me if you can't reach the top.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

In a way it just depends what you want from the sport. Big you can't contend for a title you're getting hit in the face for small money. Bo probably has a better deal than most. But is it worth sticking around the UFC if you're going to be stuck in that 12-25th ranking at the weight class if you have a college degree and aren't desperate for money?

I'd say that's up to the individual. He belongs in the UFC, but it just doesn't feel worthwhile to me if you can't reach the top.

He can still reach the top, he's just not as good as he thought he was right now. He can still go and improve and come back better. Loads of fighters took their first L before winning a belt.

 

[Meathead Jock]

He can still reach the top, he's just not as good as he thought he was right now. He can still go and improve and come back better. Loads of fighters took their first L before winning a belt.

Possibly but he will be 30 next year. If he was 26 or so I'd be more inclined to have optimism on it working out. He was too scared to take down Craig for fear of submission when it wasn't 100% obvious he was winning the striking battle.

Being this close to 30 while worrying about the BJJ aspect and not having great hands and seemingly a body tweener (he needs a 175 pound weight class imo). I don't see it working out.

 

[Normot]

Could be. Ruth (and Pico) were my two favorite green high level wrestlers signed during that period. Ruth is a very relaxed and calm individual and it just looked like at times he needed a bit of a spark or urgency to get him to the next level. His striking wasn't better than other strikers but it was good enough if he mixed in the wrestling. Ruth had every tool you'd want, and didn't have a disappointing frame like Bo, but didnt make it work.

And Pico looked like he'd be a failure to launch but maybe losing a fight doesn't mean all that much. Picos been pretty successful since then. Weather he is really going to kill it in the UFC or not isnt seen, but he's turned out better than his early fights would have suggested.

 

[Meathead Jock]

And Pico looked like he'd be a failure to launch but maybe losing a fight doesn't mean all that much. Picos been pretty successful since then. Weather he is really going to kill it in the UFC or not isnt seen, but he's turned out better than his early fights would have suggested.

Pico hasn't had a legit loss since he was 22 years old. He also showed explosive hands, just poor striking defense/respect towards opponents ability to finish and a less than great chin. That's far different that Bo looking like he has a lot to learn still at 29 years old.

 

[HHJ]

Is Bo short for Bobert or Bobsicle?

You should have made a thread about this and it should be fuckin stickied you absolute legend

 

[HHJ]

Is Bo short for Bobert or Bobsicle?

Bobanna Bojayczech

 

[Hotora86]

Is Bo short for Bobert or Bobsicle?

it's short for Boring