Opinion Hegseth to U.S. generals: "Prepare for war."

[Shaun K]

That’s like saying “I follow orders from the petty officer, chief-go fuck yourself.”

Its your mindset that makes you so dumb

 

[Rational Poster]

Who is at the top of the chain? What direction are orders handed down? Oops. Already answered for you

Swearing an oath of obedience to the president's lawful orders is not the same thing as swearing loyalty to the president like you are trying to claim.

Words have meanings, and when arranged into sentences context and meaning further develop.

I hope this helps your confusion with basic English.

 

[Shaun K]

Swearing an oath of obedience to the president's lawful orders is not the same thing as swearing loyalty to the president like you are trying to claim.

Words have meanings, and when arranged into sentences context and meaning further develop.

I hope this helps your confusion with basic English.

You cant have one without the other. The order is to obey, an authoritative figure (president), who gives the orders. You are swearing an oath to him, he gives the orders

He is the authority, his position gives it to him. The presidency changes, the oath to them does not

 

[Rational Poster]

You cant have one without the other. The order is to obey, and authoritative figure (president), who gives the orders. You are swearing an oath to him, he gives the orders

You absolutely can be obedient without being loyal. lmao

Swearing an oath to be obedient to the president's orders is not the same thing as swearing an oath of loyalty to the president.

 

[djacobox372]

The constitutionality of a presidential order is determined by the Supreme Court not an individual service member or vet.

True, but it's up to the soldier to determine for themselves if an order is constitutional or not... the court just determines if they were right. A solider can't just blindly follow orders and not expect that they are immune to prosecution for constitutional violations.

 

[Shaun K]

You absolutely can be obedient without being loyal. lmao

Swearing an oath to be obedient to the president's orders is not the same thing as swearing an oath of loyalty to the president.

The presidents orders cannot exist without the president lol. By obeying his orders you are obeying him. There’s no way around it

 

[Rational Poster]

The presidents orders cannot exist without the president lol. By obeying his orders you are obeying him. There’s no way around it

Obedience is still not a synonym for loyalty.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Oh?
How so?



Btw, weren’t we supposed to discuss Jan 6th? Was that you? I dont know, all you screamers seem to blend together.

Trump is more crooked than Nixon. Baseless accusations and persecution... You went from Democrat to full blown MAGA knob schlobber.

 

[Shaun K]

You absolutely can be obedient without being loyal. lmao

Swearing an oath to be obedient to the president's orders is not the same thing as swearing an oath of loyalty to the president.

Why are you using synonyms lol

 

[djacobox372]

You absolutely can be obedient without being loyal. lmao

Swearing an oath to be obedient to the president's orders is not the same thing as swearing an oath of loyalty to the president.

OMFG, what sort of semantics tight rope are you trying to walk?

In practical terms, obedience and loyalty create the same result. I could give a fuck what is in peoples hearts.

 

[Shaun K]

Obedience is still not a synonym for loyalty.

You’re the one who fucking said it was lololololololol

 

[Rational Poster]

You’re the one who fucking said it was lololololololol

Try that again in English.

 

[Rational Poster]

OMFG, what sort of semantics tight rope are you trying to walk?

In practical terms, obedience and loyalty create the same result. I could give a fuck what is in peoples hearts.

In practical terms, swearing an oath of obedience to follow lawful orders is not the same thing as swearing an oath of loyalty to the president.

It's just honesty, not semantics.

 

[Shaun K]

Try that again in English.

You
Are
The
One
Who
Said
It
Was
A
Synonym
For
Obedience

 

[LangfordBarrow]

In the Coast Guard COs/and Officers in charge of boat or helicopter units are required to maintain certification on the units assets, to include the boat crew/air crew physical fitness test. So yes that meant the full bird CO of the last Air Sta I was co-located with be doing his pt test just like me as the enlisted officer in charge of a boat forces unit.

I had to do my bi-annual pt test to maintain my boat crew certifications this past June as a 40something E8 OIC (with alll the damage of 23 years on ships and boats), just to remain current until my Change of Command early Aug when I started terminal leave.

That wouldn't include these guys would it? Aren't they likely to be in a command center somewhere and not deployed with the troops?

 

[Shaun K]

Ok i misread that one

 

[LangfordBarrow]

If they are not disaplened enough to meet minimum standards then they make piss poor leaders.

Did you see anyone in that crowd that was clearly more obese than Trump?

 

[Rational Poster]

You
Are
The
One
Who
Said
It
Was
A
Synonym
For
Obedience

No I'm not, I'm the one who specifically said the words have two different meanings at least twice.

 

[Shaun K]

o·be·di·ence
/əˈbēdēən(t)s/

noun

1. compliance with an order, request, or law or submission to another's authority.

I wonder…. Which person they were referring to when they mentioned that whole ‘obey’ thing?

 

[Shaun K]

No I'm not, I'm the one who specifically said the words have two different meanings.

I covered this. I misread. My bad.