@ mods I'm not meaning to defy the rules by posting this as a stand alone thread. My last crime thread got moved to Headlining Crime as there wasn't a particular political angle, but as far as I remember none of my similar threads before that did. I haven't noticed that happening to other people's crime threads either. So if this is moved to Headlining Crime as well I suppose that will be the new policy clarified going forward.
Joseph Gerdvil, 41, is accused of killing and decapitating his parents and dogs on Tuesday morning in what cops described as a 'horrific scene.'
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Joseph Gerdvil, 41, is accused of killing and decapitating his parents, Antoinette, 79 and Ronald, 77 as well as their dog on Tuesday morning.
An elderly couple and their dog were allegedly decapitated by their own son, who cops say fled the scene of his California mobile home park covered in blood.
Officials with the Orange County Sheriff's Department said they responded to a call at around 7.30am on Tuesday to reports of a 'domestic incident.'
When they arrived on the scene of the San Juan Mobile Estates community in San Juan Capistrano, investigators said they came upon a 'horrific scene which included the decapitated and mutilated bodies' of an elderly man and woman 'as well as a decapitated dog belonging to the married couple.'
Neighbours have described the family as friendly and quiet.
Police have since identified the victims as Antoinette Gerdvil, 79, and her husband Ronald Gerdvil, 77.
It is believed they were killed by their 41-year-old son, Joseph Gerdvil, who lived with his parents in the mobile home and was allegedly found covered in blood nearby.
Deputies explained that just minutes after they stumbled upon the gruesome scene, they received reports of a 'bloody male' chasing down a maintenance worker in the same mobile home community.
Police now allege Joseph stole the maintenance worker's golf cart, before an unidentified deputy located him near a bike trail and shot him multiple times.
He was treated on the scene until the Orange County Fire Authority arrived and transported him to a local hospital, where he is listed in critical but stable condition.
When he is medically cleared, the sheriff's office says the 41-year-old will be booked on two counts of homicide - and will likely face additional charges and enhancements.
A motive for the brutal decapitations remains unclear, and authorities gave no explanation for what prompted the deputy to shoot Joseph.
But neighbour David Desmond said he saw Joseph fighting with his father the day before.
He described to Fox 11 how the younger Gerdvil was 'in his face' and 'looked angry' while confronting his father on Monday.
Another neighbour, Bob Demario, also claimed Joseph 'had a drug issue.'
'That's why he lived there and they kept him there,' Demario claimed.
Online, Joseph made a number of unhinged posts about Jehovah's Witnesses and posted dissonance music on YouTube - including one on Monday entitled Shots Fired and another named Pope on a Rope, with a picture of the pope being hanged.
Dom Lucre is pretty slow on his DEVELOPING news because I saw this shit two days ago. I believe he may have left out the interesting aspect that the cop that shot was the cop that found the decapitations at the original scene.
Pretty nuts that crazy guy straight up ate the first 2-3 shots with no real reaction though.
Dom Lucre is pretty slow on his DEVELOPING news because I saw this shit two days ago. I believe he may have left out the interesting aspect that the cop that shot was the cop that found the decapitations at the original scene.
Pretty nuts that crazy guy straight up ate the first 2-3 shots with no real reaction though.
Devon Michael Adams, 27, was eating a sandwich in his car outside a Cub Foods in Minneapolis at 11am on March 9 last year when he heard a woman's scream. Going to her aid cost him his life.
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Gentle autistic tree surgeon, 27, was shot in the back and killed by stranger with eight felonies after telling him to stop beating his girlfriend... with woke Minnesota courts now blamed
The mother of an autistic Good Samaritan who was shot dead trying to stop a domestic abuser beating his girlfriend is furious he was on bail at the time.
Devon Michael Adams, 27, was eating a sandwich in his car outside a Cub Foods in Minneapolis at 11am on March 9 last year when he heard a woman's scream.
He got out of his car and walked over to Johnson Kenny Sirleaf, 34, to get him to back off, and just as he was walking away, he was shot in the chest.
Witnesses told police they heard a gunshot and then a man fall to the ground and an SUV quickly driving away form the scene.
Sirleaf was finally jailed for life without the possibility of parole on June 13.
The victim's mother Kim Adams wrote on Facebook after her son's death about coming face to face with his killer in court.
'My son is a hero... He got out of his truck, left it open and went to help that woman. He did not know them and had never seen them before,' she wrote.
'My son is the most loving person I've ever met, although he has driven me crazy through the years pretty hard.
'I got to lock eyes with [Sirleaf], the shooter looked at me, I looked back at him. I stared at him the whole entire time, he became very nervous, agitated and shout it out a couple times in the courtroom.
'[He has] a long criminal history and actually should not have been on the streets at all.'
Sirleaf had six felony convictions when he shot Adams, and was indicted on two more, but was free on bail.
The left's soft on crime approach got another person killed.
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- The Louisville Metro Police Department is looking for someone who's accused of repeatedly pooping on the same person's porch.
The person has allegedly been pooping on a porch in Old Louisville. There are at least two reports filed from the person who lives in the area.
Another was taken by an officer Wednesday. It's unknown at this time what the suspect looks like.
Roderick Dowell lives across the street, and saw it happen.
"Old Louisville, man, you gonna see some, you see everything out here," Dowell said. "I just happened to be outside, and a white guy walked up. He was looking around. He looked like he was going into the apartment. He looked at the window, looked out, and he started crapping."
It happened early Tuesday morning. The guy is wearing a t-shirt, gray basketball shorts and socks on the front porch.
He appears to look around, do his business, walk away, and then come back and do it again.
And the second time he rang he doorbell.
"Literally, started crapping, like, boom, and I was getting, he got up, walked off and went back down the street," Dowell said.
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- The Louisville Metro Police Department is looking for someone who's accused of repeatedly pooping on the same person's porch.
The person has allegedly been pooping on a porch in Old Louisville. There are at least two reports filed from the person who lives in the area.
Another was taken by an officer Wednesday. It's unknown at this time what the suspect looks like.
Roderick Dowell lives across the street, and saw it happen.
"Old Louisville, man, you gonna see some, you see everything out here," Dowell said. "I just happened to be outside, and a white guy walked up. He was looking around. He looked like he was going into the apartment. He looked at the window, looked out, and he started crapping."
It happened early Tuesday morning. The guy is wearing a t-shirt, gray basketball shorts and socks on the front porch.
He appears to look around, do his business, walk away, and then come back and do it again.
And the second time he rang he doorbell.
"Literally, started crapping, like, boom, and I was getting, he got up, walked off and went back down the street," Dowell said.
Woke DA refuses to send murdered to prison because he is not white. He got a slap on the wrist for car jacking in which he and his criminal partner shot the victim to death. This guy has repeatedly done armed robberies, car jacking, threatening to kill people and fleeing police at 100 mph.
The DA gave him a sweetheart deal and no one was shocked especially the victim's family by this guy committing another crime.
They didn't try overpowering him hand to hand very hard. At one point he was being repeatedly tased and had three cops on top of him and still escaped, Derrick Lewis-like. Obviously he was physically powerful and out of control mentally. Still in many countries he would have been apprehended with some combination of wrestling and whacking with truncheons.
They didn't try overpowering him hand to hand very hard. At one point he was being repeatedly tased and had three cops on top of him and still escaped, Derrick Lewis-like. Obviously he was physically powerful and out of control mentally. Still in many countries he would have been apprehended with some combination of wrestling and whacking with truncheons.
They didn't try overpowering him hand to hand very hard. At one point he was being repeatedly tased and had three cops on top of him and still escaped, Derrick Lewis-like. Obviously he was physically powerful and out of control mentally. Still in many countries he would have been apprehended with some combination of wrestling and whacking with truncheons.
Its ridiculous to think that police should be obliged to engage in an MMA fight with a piece of shit like that. They tried as many different ways to stop this guy without killing him as they could.
Its ridiculous to think that police should be obliged to engage in an MMA fight with a piece of shit like that. They tried as many different ways to stop this guy without killing him as they could.
Theydid the same things as the people in this staged video. They pepper sprayed him, tazed him, one officer tried to take him down. All that failed and the man charged an officer with a gun pointed at him. No other outcome was possible, the guy made up his mind to die that day, along with the retard screaming murder at the cops, escalating the whole thing.
Apples to oranges. You'd need to employ so many police officers and train them to such an extent that they'd be almost professional MMA fighters. It's not financially feasible. It's possible in low crime areas, but medium/high crime areas it isn't realistic.
An Algerian migrant has been formally indicted and placed in detention following the alleged rape of a young disabled man at a shopping center near Nantes. The assault reportedly took place around 3 p.m. on Friday in the public toilets of the Atlantis shopping center in Saint-Herblain. The...
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An Algerian migrant has been formally indicted and placed in detention following the alleged rape of a young disabled man at a shopping centre near Nantes.
The assault reportedly took place around 3 p.m. on Friday in the public toilets of the Atlantis shopping center in Saint-Herblain.
The victim’s mother, worried when her 25-year-old son failed to return from the restrooms, went to look for him and learned of the sexual assault. She swiftly alerted mall security, who identified the man and detained him until the police arrived and took him into custody.
The Atlantis shopping centre’s extensive surveillance system is playing a crucial role in the investigation. “Our toilet halls and bathroom areas are filmed,” said Alexandra Farci, the centre’s director, expressing deep concern for the victim and his mother.
According to Ouest France, investigators from the local judicial police are examining surveillance footage to corroborate the details of the case. The public prosecutor of Nantes, Renaud Gaudeul, disclosed that the suspect — a 36-year-old Algerian national who is homeless and living in France illegally — was found to be under the influence of alcohol and narcotics at the time of the alleged assault.
The suspect, who remains in custody, was charged with rape under aggravated circumstances, citing both the vulnerability of the victim and the suspect’s state of intoxication. The charges highlight the gravity of the case, with authorities emphasizing the severe impact on the victim, a young man described as highly vulnerable due to his mental health condition.
The wife and two youngest daughters of John Hunt, a BBC racing commentator, have been killed in a crossbow attack at their home.
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The wife and two daughters of the BBC 5 Live racing commentator John Hunt are believed to be the victims of a triple crossbow murder in Hertfordshire, the Telegraph can reveal.
(1) I don't want to get too hung up on the ethnicity thing but the brother confirms Clifford is mixed race, and having now had time to look at other photos, I think most people would class the dead girls as White, but I still don't believe they were purely ethnic English. I narrowed it to English, as Scottish, Welsh and Irish have minorities of slightly darker people. There are a lot of Irish people involved in horseracing so maybe they rolled two sixes twice on the genetic dice there (I haven't seen a pic of the third girl). Whoever it was, they have one or two ancestors from a more southerly land. Without sounding obnoxious, people who have lived in the UK for a long time can judge this better.
(2) Clifford was indeed Louise's ex. They broke up a week ago.
(3) The house apparently is worth about £800,000. The average house price in the UK is £275,000 or thereabouts. Dad is a TV sports presenter and used to be a policeman. I dunno... lower middle middle class? Upper lower middle class? As mentioned above the house value isn't the only factor, and again the class definitions are different to the USA and Canada. Nowhere near upper class anyway.
(4) Crossbow bans or at least further restrictions are indeed now being discussed, they have been discussed from time to time for a while and this incident will add impetus to that.
Around 6.30pm on Tuesday, neighbours of a £800,000 suburban home in a quiet cul-de-sac in Bushey, Hertfordshire, heard piercing screams which were initially mistaken for that of a child.
A mother and her two daughters were tied up and shot dead with a crossbow after a deadly rampage at their suburban Hertfordshire home.
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Murder and Background
A local resident who grew up with the Hunt family and played with Louise and Hannah when they were children described the family as 'super-nice and friendly'.
The 22-year-old woman, who did not want to be identified, said John and Carol Hunt would often be seen walking their dogs together in the local area.
She said: “I feel so bad for the dad. I saw him just two weeks ago.”
The family friend added that Hannah worked as a beautician and Louise as a dog groomer.
Louise Hunt, 25
It was a scene of unimaginable horror that left even hardened detectives shaken. A defenceless mother and her two daughters tied up in their own home and shot dead with a 3ft-long crossbow in a bloody rampage.
Around 6.30pm on Tuesday, neighbours of an £800,000 suburban home in a quiet cul-de-sac in Bushey, Hertfordshire, heard piercing screams which were initially mistaken for that of a distressed child.
Later they were to realise that it was a woman's desperate cries for help coming from the home where Louise Hunt, 25, her sister Hannah, 28, and mother Carol, 61, were ambushed by a crossbow-wielding killer.
Soon after the screams fell silent, the assailant fled the property, by which time the police had been alerted and were on their way.
Hannah and Carol
Although police and ambulance... rushed to the house they were unable to save the three victims, who died at the scene.
Within hours a national manhunt was under way for former soldier Kyle Clifford, who was named by police in a highly unusual step. The 26-year-old had previously served in the Queen's Dragoon Guards for a short time, before dropping out [in 2022], having failed to impress superiors, it was said last night.
Yesterday neighbours revealed that Clifford had been in a relationship with the Hunts' youngest daughter, Louise, but she split up with him a week ago.
Their parting is said to have left her so shaken that she recently crashed her car into a telegraph pole outside the family home.
The neighbourhood
Manhunt
After attending the scene the police began a large, armed manhunt, including police dogs and only allowing people to leave Tube stations slowly while they looked at them carefully, so they could potentially spot Clifford.
Later local schools were put into lockdown when armed police raided the suspect's home in Enfield, North London, some 14 miles from the crime scene.
One mother said: "They had cordoned off the road and were ushering people away from the house they were going into. They had the full protective gear on, guns, shields and helmets – the kind you'd expect to see in riots."
Dozens of officers from [New] Scotland Yard and Hertfordshire Police flooded the area a short time later after finding Clifford's abandoned car. But within hours the hunt had moved to a nearby cemetery just a few minutes' walk away. The former security guard was later found with self-inflicted injuries at Lavender Hill Cemetery just after 4.30pm, after seemingly shooting himself with the crossbow.
Apprehension
Around 20 minutes later Clifford was stretchered from the scene and taken by ambulance to Royal London Hospital, where he was receiving medical treatment last night.
Police confirmed no shots had been fired by officers and nobody else was being sought.
Potential Crossbow Restrictions
The Home Secretary, Yvette Cooper
is urgently considering the findings of a Home Office review to see if tougher crossbow laws need to be introduced in the wake of the deaths of the wife and two daughters of racing commentator John Hunt.
The previous Conservative government had considered tightening the laws around crossbows after would-be assassin Jaswant Singh Chail
was encouraged by an AI chatbot to break into Windsor Castle on Christmas Day 2021 with a loaded crossbow to kill the late Queen.
Currently there is no requirement to have a licence for a crossbow, but it is illegal to carry one in public without a reasonable excuse.
You can get collapsible bows as well, up to at least 60lbs draw weight, which although less than a war bow, is apparently enough to kill someone fairly easily. Especially when they're not wearing armour. A big uncollapsible bow would tend to attract attention in 2024, unless you broke it into smaller pieces. A crossbow takes less strength and skill though. There's a competitive archer somewhere on this forum who would know about this.
A TRIPLE murder suspect has been revealed as an “immature” ex-private who dropped out the Army before killing a BBC star’s wife and her daughters. Kyle Clifford is at the centre o…
KYLE Clifford was caught by armed police in a cemetery in Enfield, North London following a huge manhunt. Cops had been searching for him over the crossbow “murders” of BBC Five Live’s …
Former soldier Kyle Clifford was apprehended in north London following the deaths of three members of the BBC commentator’s family
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Born in Enfield in 1998, Clifford is understood to be the third of four children.
Clifford is confirmed to have grown up in Enfield, with a woman who grew up with the suspected killer in the area saying he had 'always seemed pretty normal'. Speaking to Sky News, the woman added that he had also seemed a 'nice guy', and that he didn't come across as aggressive.
She said: "We would always be at the same parties together and hanging around in Enfield. He never seemed odd or aggressive."
A former boss from early in his career said the murder suspect dropped out soon after passing out.
He added: "Clifford joined the Army in 2019 and I was with him in Basic Training. When he joined the Army he was immature for his age and had a bit of a chip on his shoulder. He struggled to grasp basic military concepts but managed to reach the standard to pass out from training. After passing out he joined the Household Cavalry Regiment but I'm unsure how his career developed from there. I hear he was working in private security so that would indicate that he is no longer in the military."
After the army he briefly worked at a fire and security installation company, but left in July last year.
Clifford's parents have been referred to as 'lovely' by a neighbour. The retired teacher spoke to the Mirror after posting a letter to the family. She said: "This is so tragic because his parents are lovely, genuine people. Kyle’s father often cuts my grass and checks I’m ok - they are good people and don’t deserve this. Some locals have been abusive towards them since the incident which is devastating."
The three women had ligature marks around their wrists and face but were not gagged and bound when they were discovered by police at their home in Bushey, The Guardian reported.
The newspaper reported that one of the victims managed to call 999 to alert the police before their killer fled, with a source alleging that the women may have been held hostage for hours prior to the call.
It's with a heavy heart that this Go Fund Me is set up for the Hunt family after the horrific eve… Matt Chapman needs your support for The family of John Hunt
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On the ethnicity tangent I'm now not sure. It could be just blackfishing. I could have underestimated how effective that can be, plus Clifford actually is mixed... The girls seem to have probably had work done on their teeth and lips, dyed their hair black and given themselves heavy artificial tans. Maybe something I didn't spot, not knowing much about this kind of thing. I don't know about the eyebrows though. They really give me pause.
Sickening new footage shows crossbow killer Kyle Clifford sobbing and refusing to engage with police after murdering his ex-partner, her sister and her mother.
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Today, appearing via video-link at Cambridge Crown Court, Clifford was found guilty of raping his ex-partner Louise before murdering her and her family.
In chilling new footage shared by police, Clifford is seen being interviewed in the wake of the triple murder.
As two police officers list the slew of allegations against him, the killer and sexual predator sobs and refuses to engage with them.
The officer reads out letters Clifford wrote to his family, where he explains he doesn’t 'want to live my life without' Louise.
He told his family his loved ones 'none of you have failed' but he needs to be 'at peace.'
As the letters are read aloud, cowardly Clifford sobs, prompting the officer to ask: "Are you [ok] Kyle? Can you carry on?"
As he continues to sob, Clifford once again refuses to comment on the allegations against him.
After killing Carol, the defendant then 'lay in wait' for an hour for Louise to enter the house, before restraining, raping and ultimately murdering her with a crossbow.
He then fatally shot 28-year-old Hannah Hunt when she returned to the property in the quiet cul-de-sac of Ashlyn Close in Bushey, Hertfordshire, after work.
Clifford previously admitted three counts of murder, one of false imprisonment against Louise, and two counts of possession of offensive weapons - the crossbow and the knife.
Prosecutors said the 'violent misogyny promoted' by controversial social media influencer Andrew Tate 'fuelled' Clifford's attacks.
Tate
Following the attacks Clifford, who served in the military from 2019 for around three years, became the subject of a manhunt for a number of hours, before he was found injured in Lavender Hill Cemetery in Enfield, north London.
He had shot himself in the chest with the crossbow he had used to kill Louise and Hannah, which left him paralysed from the chest downwards.
Clifford will be sentenced at the same court on Tuesday.
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