Law Headlining Crime V5

[Scerpi]

They were tied up first.

GOT copycat?

Sick fucker

 

[Osculater]

I didn't know England had Edgar's

 

[nhbbear]

A manhunt is underway in north London for a man suspected of being armed with a crossbow after three women – the wife and two daughters of a BBC journalist – were killed Tuesday evening.

Police said they were searching for a 26-year-old man, named as Kyle Clifford, in connection with the deaths, who could be in the British capital or the neighboring county of Hertfordshire.

Police were called to a house in Bushey, Hertfordshire, on Tuesday evening, where they found three seriously injured women who later died from their wounds.

The victims of the triple murder were identified as the wife, Carol Hunt, and two daughters, of BBC racing commentator John Hunt, the UK’s public broadcaster said on Wednesday. Police said earlier that the deceased, aged 25, 28 and 61, were killed in what is believed to have been a “targeted incident.”

A crossbow is believed to have been used in the triple murder, though police said Wednesday that other weapons may also have been used.

Police have asked the public not to approach the suspect.

British Home Secretary Yvette Cooper has said she is being kept “fully updated” by police on the ongoing manhunt.

“The loss of three women’s lives in Bushey last night is truly shocking. My thoughts are with the family & friends of those who have been killed & with the community,” Cooper wrote on X Wednesday.

“I am being kept fully updated. I urge people to support Hertfordshire Police with any information about this case,” she added.

A neighbor of the victims said she “would see them every day passing by and they would say good morning,” according to PA Media.

“It’s really sad what’s happened, very shocking,” she added.

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Kyle Clifford, 26, is wanted in connection with the murders of three women in Bushey.

Nice hair. Fucking weiner

 

[pinger]

BBC horseracing is not a term to leave in your browser history I would guess

 

[kahiljabroni]

Fkn awful. I can only take slight solace that the daughters weren't children. Some people just deserve to be beaten to death on live tv. Whoever did this is one of them

 

[squeezewax]

Some guys are so possessive and jealous, emotionally immature. I would imagine this guy is like this.

 

[sanguinius]

Damn. I remember watching CSI as a kid and thinking a bow would be a good murder weapon. No caliber to trace back too, easy to wipe the arrow of prints before shooting. Buy that brand arrow in cash and have it be different than your normal hunting arrows and broadheads. Quiet.

Wouldn’t the larger area on the arrows leave more room for evidence? Especially since wood is kind of easily stained with various materials. I’m not a csi expert, though.

 

[Evbo]

This happened a couple of miles up the road from me, two roads along from my ex. Pretty nutso, you can tell not much interesting happens here because every single person I passed was talking about it

 

[Evbo]

They live in Hertfordshire. Average home price is just under 600,000 pounds.

The area they live in is relatively nice. Bear in mind there are some absolute shithole places in Herts, Hemel Hempstead is about 5 miles up the road and is 90% shithole

 

[Madmick]

An extraordinary crime story, no doubt, but is there a political angle?

I saw the stuff about race blah blah blah but see nothing indicating that is relevant.

 

[A Very Serious Cat]

Fkn awful. I can only take slight solace that the daughters weren't children. Some people just deserve to be beaten to death on live tv. Whoever did this is one of them

No need for such a spectacle for their sake, just a no fuss short drop and quick stop then forget about them

 

[Billy no mates]

Wonder what made the Army gets rid of him , was he one of those that really should have been weeded out during BMT and just got bounced out by his Regiment shortly after arrival when they found out how shit he was or was there a more serious issue with him ? .

 

[spamking]

Sheesh. What a horrible way to die.

 

[HockeyBjj]

Wouldn’t the larger area on the arrows leave more room for evidence? Especially since wood is kind of easily stained with various materials. I’m not a csi expert, though.

arrows are carbon fiber. Before that they were aluminum. Arrows haven’t been wood for 70 years.

So I figured it’s easy enough to wipe them down pre shot. Especially if buying a different brand (with cash and a ballcap from different city) that you’re only opening and using for your crime.

 

[650lb Sumo]

arrows are carbon fiber. Before that they were aluminum. Arrows haven’t been wood for 70 years.

So I figured it’s easy enough to wipe them down pre shot. Especially if buying a different brand (with cash and a ballcap from different city) that you’re only opening and using for your crime.

You can get collapsible bows as well, up to at least 60lbs draw weight, which although less than a war bow, is apparently enough to kill someone fairly easily. Especially when they're not wearing armour. A big uncollapsible bow would tend to attract attention in 2024, unless you broke it into smaller pieces. A crossbow takes less strength and skill though. There's a competitive archer somewhere on this forum who would know about this.

Wonder what made the Army gets rid of him , was he one of those that really should have been weeded out during BMT and just got bounced out by his Regiment shortly after arrival when they found out how shit he was or was there a more serious issue with him ? .

Update Three

Spoiler: Links

Fugitive was 'immature' private who left Army before 'murdering 3 women'

A TRIPLE murder suspect has been revealed as an “immature” ex-private who dropped out the Army before killing a BBC star’s wife and her daughters. Kyle Clifford is at the centre o…

www.thesun.co.uk

Bushey murder victim’s boyfriend pays tribute to ‘love of life’ as suspect arrested

Country is reeling after Carol Hunt and daughters Hannah and Louise killed in crossbow attack at home

www.independent.co.uk

What we know about Bushey murder suspect Kyle Clifford

KYLE Clifford was caught by armed police in a cemetery in Enfield, North London following a huge manhunt. Cops had been searching for him over the crossbow “murders” of BBC Five Live’s …

www.thesun.co.uk

Kyle Clifford: The former soldier captured by police after fatal crossbow attack

Former soldier Kyle Clifford was apprehended in north London following the deaths of three members of the BBC commentator’s family

www.independent.co.uk

Born in Enfield in 1998, Clifford is understood to be the third of four children.

Clifford is confirmed to have grown up in Enfield, with a woman who grew up with the suspected killer in the area saying he had 'always seemed pretty normal'. Speaking to Sky News, the woman added that he had also seemed a 'nice guy', and that he didn't come across as aggressive.

She said: "We would always be at the same parties together and hanging around in Enfield. He never seemed odd or aggressive."

A former boss from early in his career said the murder suspect dropped out soon after passing out.

He added: "Clifford joined the Army in 2019 and I was with him in Basic Training. When he joined the Army he was immature for his age and had a bit of a chip on his shoulder. He struggled to grasp basic military concepts but managed to reach the standard to pass out from training. After passing out he joined the Household Cavalry Regiment but I'm unsure how his career developed from there. I hear he was working in private security so that would indicate that he is no longer in the military."

After the army he briefly worked at a fire and security installation company, but left in July last year.

Clifford's parents have been referred to as 'lovely' by a neighbour. The retired teacher spoke to the Mirror after posting a letter to the family. She said: "This is so tragic because his parents are lovely, genuine people. Kyle’s father often cuts my grass and checks I’m ok - they are good people and don’t deserve this. Some locals have been abusive towards them since the incident which is devastating."

The three women had ligature marks around their wrists and face but were not gagged and bound when they were discovered by police at their home in Bushey, The Guardian reported.
The newspaper reported that one of the victims managed to call 999 to alert the police before their killer fled, with a source alleging that the women may have been held hostage for hours prior to the call.

Donate to The family of John Hunt, organized by Matt Chapman

It's with a heavy heart that this Go Fund Me is set up for the Hunt family after the horrific eve… Matt Chapman needs your support for The family of John Hunt

www.gofundme.com

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On the ethnicity tangent I'm now not sure. It could be just blackfishing. I could have underestimated how effective that can be, plus Clifford actually is mixed... The girls seem to have probably had work done on their teeth and lips, dyed their hair black and given themselves heavy artificial tans. Maybe something I didn't spot, not knowing much about this kind of thing. I don't know about the eyebrows though. They really give me pause.

 

[HockeyBjj]

You can get collapsible bows as well, up to at least 60lbs draw weight, which although less than a war bow, is apparently enough to kill someone fairly easily. Especially when they're not wearing armour. A big uncollapsible bow would tend to attract attention in 2024, unless you broke it into smaller pieces. A crossbow takes less strength and skill though. There's a competitive archer somewhere on this forum who would know about this.

I'm assuming a car is the getaway vehicle so tossing a normal compound bow in the back only leaves you exposed based on how far from shot site to your vehicle you are. A takedown recurve bow is still fairly large, and I'd be afraid the slow arrow speed would then be a giveaway to yourself if police found a takedown recurve in your home or evidence of past usage. Whereas a compound bow just lets you blend in with any of the other bowhunters.

I'm so bitter laws changed to allow anyone to hunt with a crossbow in my state. It's too easy. That's supposed to be for elderly and disabled only, unless they want to use a crossbow during muzzleloader or rifle season. Then that sounds like a fair weapon. But they shouldn't get the full bow season to hunt with a modern crossbow.

*steps off soapbox

 

[kahiljabroni]

No need for such a spectacle for their sake, just a no fuss short drop and quick stop then forget about them

Nah I want them to suffer

 

[650lb Sumo]

@ mods I'm not meaning to defy the rules by posting this as a stand alone thread. My last crime thread got moved to Headlining Crime as there wasn't a particular political angle, but as far as I remember none of my similar threads before that did. I haven't noticed that happening to other people's crime threads either. So if this is moved to Headlining Crime as well I suppose that will be the new policy clarified going forward.

Spoiler: Link

Maniac DECAPITATES his parents and their dog

Joseph Gerdvil, 41, is accused of killing and decapitating his parents and dogs on Tuesday morning in what cops described as a 'horrific scene.'

www.dailymail.co.uk

Joseph Gerdvil, 41, is accused of killing and decapitating his parents, Antoinette, 79 and Ronald, 77 as well as their dog on Tuesday morning.

An elderly couple and their dog were allegedly decapitated by their own son, who cops say fled the scene of his California mobile home park covered in blood.

Officials with the Orange County Sheriff's Department said they responded to a call at around 7.30am on Tuesday to reports of a 'domestic incident.'

When they arrived on the scene of the San Juan Mobile Estates community in San Juan Capistrano, investigators said they came upon a 'horrific scene which included the decapitated and mutilated bodies' of an elderly man and woman 'as well as a decapitated dog belonging to the married couple.'

Neighbours have described the family as friendly and quiet.

Police have since identified the victims as Antoinette Gerdvil, 79, and her husband Ronald Gerdvil, 77.

It is believed they were killed by their 41-year-old son, Joseph Gerdvil, who lived with his parents in the mobile home and was allegedly found covered in blood nearby.

Deputies explained that just minutes after they stumbled upon the gruesome scene, they received reports of a 'bloody male' chasing down a maintenance worker in the same mobile home community.

Police now allege Joseph stole the maintenance worker's golf cart, before an unidentified deputy located him near a bike trail and shot him multiple times.

He was treated on the scene until the Orange County Fire Authority arrived and transported him to a local hospital, where he is listed in critical but stable condition.

When he is medically cleared, the sheriff's office says the 41-year-old will be booked on two counts of homicide - and will likely face additional charges and enhancements.

A motive for the brutal decapitations remains unclear, and authorities gave no explanation for what prompted the deputy to shoot Joseph.

But neighbour David Desmond said he saw Joseph fighting with his father the day before.

He described to Fox 11 how the younger Gerdvil was 'in his face' and 'looked angry' while confronting his father on Monday.

Another neighbour, Bob Demario, also claimed Joseph 'had a drug issue.'

'That's why he lived there and they kept him there,' Demario claimed.

Online, Joseph made a number of unhinged posts about Jehovah's Witnesses and posted dissonance music on YouTube - including one on Monday entitled Shots Fired and another named Pope on a Rope, with a picture of the pope being hanged.

Edit: Update

 

[IDGETKTFO]

That was wrong, he shouldn't have done that.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

I can't stop laughing at "Fled in stolen golf cart".