Crime Headlining Crime Megathread Vol 4.

[Broke Lester]

Do people in Sweden care though? Every time we see these articles it's usually Americans freaking out on their behalf. Are there people in Sweden that are upset about migration?

Yeah, you're probably right. Who'd care about bombs being detonated in their neighborhoods?

 

[The_Renaissance]

Do people in Sweden care though? Every time we see these articles it's usually Americans freaking out on their behalf. Are there people in Sweden that are upset about migration?

They are demoralised and broken as a population. They are well behaved beyond reason, they never seem to protest or defy the government in any shape or form.

 

[fingercuffs]

" She had nothing to do with criminals at all, just a victim of dysfunctional politics"

Horrible

 

[Deleted member 592570]

In a sleepy suburb to the fourth biggest city in Sweden (Uppsala). Criminals planted a bomb that in tramadol induced theory would kill a rival gang member.

The problem? The criminal target had moved away quite some time ago and the house was out on the market for sale, something the other criminals didn´t bother to investigate further.

The second problem? The bomb destroyed the neighbour´s house, where a 25-year old woman was blown into pieces. She had recently graduated from the university to become a teacher. She had nothing to do with criminals at all, just a victim of dysfunctional politics over time or being in the wrong place at the wrong time as media normal spins these events. Being at home in Sweden is now the wrong place to be...

Her house after being enriched by explosives. In total, five houses were damaged.

There was also a deadly shooting in a suburb here in Stockholm called Jordbro.

Earlier last evening, there was yet another shooting. A young rapper was shot and killed. According to sources in media, he was not unknown by the police.

The shooting took place next to a soccer field where young children were practising and they witnessed the entire ordeal.

Comparing statistics between countries can be problematic and misguided but I think it is pretty fair to compare Sweden to neighbouring Nordic countries that have similar cultures and history.

Deadly shootings for 2022 (According to Expressen (a Swedish newspaper):

Sweden - 63
Norway - 4
Denmark - 4
Finland - 2

Sweden has had around 130+ bombings this year, I haven´t found any statistics from other Nordic countries but I think it is pretty safe to say that Sweden takes the first place in that category with a broad margin.

A couple of days ago, this bombing went down in Linköping.

This is not the first time that city is enriched by a bomb. In 2019, a bomb sent 20 people to the hospital and hundreds of people had to find a new place to stay.

Yesterday, the newspapers in Sweden reported that the Norwegian authorities are pleading to the international community to assist their country because Swedish gangs have begun to establish their position there also.

The figures might not stand out in an American context but please, bear in mind, Sweden was one of the safest countries in the world until the politicians and media wanted to make a demographic- and cultural experiment.

We are now enjoying that legacy with never-ending excitement, where will the next bomb go off...

Doesn't the Swedish media try to make it sound like it's native Swedish biker gangs doing all this shit too?

 

[Deleted member 592570]

They are demoralised and broken as a population. They are well behaved beyond reason, they never seem to protest or defy the government in any shape or form.

Isn't cuckolding like a big part of their culture? I remember that's like really jarring part of the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo series. Like it's just a normal part of marriage over there that women cheat on their husbands constantly?

 

[nostradumbass]

Swedes are too polite and obedient for their own good and will continue to get rolled over. Not only do governments roll over them, but they're also walking targets individually.

 

[west42]

Same here in Sweden. After each of these shootings, they are portrayed as talented footballers, wanted to be a doctor and opened the doors for neighbours.

In the US they're aspiring doctors

 

[Zazen]

Yeah, you're probably right. Who'd care about bombs being detonated in their neighborhoods?

I’m not sure you understand my post, I meant is this a nationwide problem? Do people care? I never see protests. All I see are outraged Americans. Sometimes when you talk to people from these countries they don’t know what we are even talking about

 

[The_Renaissance]

In the US they're aspiring doctors

Yeah they're always everything and anything apart from what they actually are - scum and vermin.

 

[west42]

Yeah they're always everything and anything apart from what they actually are - scum and vermin.

Never know. They could be one old lady mugging away until getting enough money to enroll in astronaut school

 

[Loiosh]

Do people in Sweden care though? Every time we see these articles it's usually Americans freaking out on their behalf. Are there people in Sweden that are upset about migration?

I know almost nothing about Swedish immigration but it's long been known that conservatives internationally have capitalized on how they calculate crime statistics to push narratives. For example, in Sweden if a rapist assaults the same woman multiple times, each incident counts, suggesting a much higher rate of rape than other countries. This was immediately tied to immigration, of course, because that's all that matters to some.

The same goes for lethal violence because Sweden includes suicides. Sweden's homicide rate is pretty low but you wouldn't know that from international reporting.

Just look at this thread, the obvious narrative is that immigrants are criminals. That's the only reason people care about crime in Sweden. Trump famously said that Mexico was sending it's rapists, despite the fact illegal immigrants are far less likely to commit crimes because they have so much more to lose and typically want to be as invisible as possible.

 

[gspieler]

I know almost nothing about Swedish immigration but it's long been known that conservatives internationally have capitalized on how they calculate crime statistics to push narratives. For example, in Sweden if a rapist assaults the same woman multiple times, each incident counts, suggesting a much higher rate of rape than other countries. This was immediately tied to immigration, of course, because that's all that matters to some.

The same goes for lethal violence because Sweden includes suicides. Sweden's homicide rate is pretty low but you wouldn't know that from international reporting.

Just look at this thread, the obvious narrative is that immigrants are criminals. That's the only reason people care about crime in Sweden. Trump famously said that Mexico was sending it's rapists, despite the fact illegal immigrants are far less likely to commit crimes because they have so much more to lose and typically want to be as invisible as possible.

Yes, it's a big right-wing CT. Which is exactly why Swedes aren't even allowed to track the data on the race/ethnic background of parties to a crime.

Make whatever argument you want to about whether or not mass immigration has been a net positive/negative for the Nordic countries, but it's obvious there has been an uptick in (violent) crime in the past decade or so.

 

[Loiosh]

Yes, it seems a big right-wing CT. Which is exactly why Swedes aren't even allowed to track the data on the race/ethnic background of parties to a crime.

I think there's a difference between a CT and exploiting how certain statistics are presented to push a narrative.

Everyone exploits statistics and anyone saying numbers don't lie is lying. Conclusions drawn intuitively from data sets are often catastrophically incorrect, you have to show the work.

 

[TheMaster]

i share the same tinfoil hat. there is zero desire to assimilate. it's an invasion force doing everything to impose their own culture as the dominant one. everybody can see it. i don't understand why the swedes don't. it's like all their cultural antibodies are gone.

Although to be fair, it's an invasive force that the West have been ass fucking in their home countries and still are for the past several decades if not longer, which is part of the reason they come with a massive inferiority complex and attitude.

 

[The_Renaissance]

I know almost nothing about Swedish immigration but it's long been known that conservatives internationally have capitalized on how they calculate crime statistics to push narratives. For example, in Sweden if a rapist assaults the same woman multiple times, each incident counts, suggesting a much higher rate of rape than other countries. This was immediately tied to immigration, of course, because that's all that matters to some.

The same goes for lethal violence because Sweden includes suicides. Sweden's homicide rate is pretty low but you wouldn't know that from international reporting.

Just look at this thread, the obvious narrative is that immigrants are criminals. That's the only reason people care about crime in Sweden. Trump famously said that Mexico was sending it's rapists, despite the fact illegal immigrants are far less likely to commit crimes because they have so much more to lose and typically want to be as invisible as possible.

Of course you're in here defending vermin. Let me guess, it's because of racism?

 

[Tatra]

Do people in Sweden care though? Every time we see these articles it's usually Americans freaking out on their behalf. Are there people in Sweden that are upset about migration?

Swedes are spineless pussies. They're the most cowardly, empty people on the entire planet and will just sit back and allow their country to be destroyed. That's less distressing for them than standing up and doing something which benefits their country but will inevitably get them labeled racist, which is the worst possible thing to be in Sweden (and other Scandinavian countries). Good riddance.

 

[Renard]

It's pretty clear that the authorities in charge of western nations have an agenda in mind and they're intent on implementing it regardless of the negative consequences on society and the citizenry. It's not an experiment in the proper sense of the word because in an experiment you examine the results and come to a conclusion, and readjust your way of doing things based on that conclusion. In this case it's the opposite, they've already decided what they want to do and all of their energy is funneled towards trying to mind-fuck you into thinking it's a good idea, propagandizing you into agreeing with their predetermined course of action. 'Diversity is our strength' rhetoric blasted 24/7 in the media, in public discourse.

 

[gspieler]

I think there's a difference between a CT and exploiting how certain statistics are presented to push a narrative.

Everyone exploits statistics and anyone saying numbers don't lie is lying. Conclusions drawn intuitively from data sets are often catastrophically incorrect, you have to show the work.

I'm not disagreeing that data can be manipulated to support whatever conclusion someone wants it to, or that data is often exploited. But on this particular topic, the correlations have been obvious. It was rare to read about(and nit just from right wing sources) mass rapes, bombings, huge upticks in violent crime, sexual assaults, etc, prior to the 2010's, in aplace like Sweden. It's also known that the government actively tries to surpress data that could paint immigrants in a negative light. I'm not one of these righties who thinks that every immigrant who steps off the boat us looking to exploit/tear down the system any way they can. But there's certainly been pretty noticable examples of that occurring.

 

[oldshadow]

Sacrifices must be made to make sure your country is "enriched ".

If you are not willing to sacrifice then you are racist.

Not allowing you country or parts of it to turn into a shit hole is racist and whatever "ist" they can come up with.

 

[Loiosh]

Of course you're in here defending vermin. Let me guess, it's because of racism?

I'm just pointing out what has been known for a long time, that the way Sweden tabulates statistics has been long exploited. If you disagree prove your position. Educate yourself on what the statistics actually represent and use that result to prove a point mathematically. I suspect that you won't because you aren't analytical, you're purely dogmatic.

Also, you might want to avoid dehumanizing terms like vermin. That specifically is used immediately prior to genocide.