Crime Headlining Crime Megathread Vol 4.

[Rafael MMA]

Give them both life.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

They should be charged because their actions killed a man and we have rules as a society. But this is a horrible tragedy and I doubt those children understood the true weight of the crime they were committing. They arent even old enough to get a drivers license. What a shame.

Most people, of any age, dont realize the weight of their crimes until they are caught. That is why you have adults, in every position of society committing crimes equally as bad as this. Like, at what point were these two going to be like, "lol, let me stop now"?

 

[Deleted member 499399]

Most people, of any age, dont realize the weight of their crimes until they are caught. That is why you have adults, in every position of society committing crimes equally as bad as this. Like, at what point were these two going to be like, "lol, let me stop now"?

Why dont we give 13 yrs old drivers licenses?

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Why dont we give 13 yrs old drivers licenses?

So they can car jack people if they can drive legally? What kind of comparison is that?

 

[badascan]

I'll bet that their fathers are MIA.

what kind of odds will you give me? i might take 100,000/1...

 

[Cajun]

the sad thing is...someone will legitimately argue this...and alleviate the culpability these teens have for their actions.

Lets wait until that's brought up imo...

 

[Mcountry]

Aw muffin...what's the matter? Is it hard to understand the argument of the violent crimes stat when you read a story about a violent crime that contributes to said stat yet still think your false narratives of systemic racism?

Or you just don't want me to bring up that whole narrative right now because it's inconvenient?

Here ya go, princess.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/424141/prevalence-rate-of-violent-crime-in-the-us-by-ethnicity/

 

[Cajun]

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/teen-girls-carjacking-charges/2021/03/24/50c29dee-8c96-11eb-a6bd-0eb91c03305a_story.html?outputType=amp





The Video format isn’t the greatest because it’s from Instagram I couldn’t find the video anywhere else of it actually happened.

13 and 15 year old carjackers, both teenage girls.

Tried to steal this mans car, they drove off and he was killed when the car flipped.

Should they go away for life?

One of them is an actual child.

My kid is 11 but he knows the difference between right and wrong.

They’re charged with felony murder but will plea down most likely. They’re behind bars right now.

Doubt they will get murder but this is terrible stuff.

 

[chardog]

that was some Fkd up stuff

it's basically senseless homicide, sentence, I can't say. Dumb kids doing dumb stuff and did they know it would result in death? On one hand, they didn't expect death, secondly, car jacking/joyriding laws do they know they exist and to what extent? seems like a case of joyriding gone bad

 

[HereticBD]

After watching that second video it is infuriating that no one ran over to that poor man to assess his injuries and try to help. Judging by the positioning of his body he could’ve easily been dead but it appeared he was still breathing when they showed him. Either way, completely disgraceful.

If you're not trained to deal with that level of trauma, you could just as easily fuck them up if you start playing EMT.

 

[Paradigm]

that was some Fkd up stuff

it's basically senseless homicide, sentence, I can't say. Dumb kids doing dumb stuff and did they know it would result in death? On one hand, they didn't expect death, secondly, car jacking/joyriding laws do they know they exist and to what extent? seems like a case of joyriding gone bad

They probably just wanted to do hoodrat stuff with their friends.

 

[Deleted member 499399]

So they can car jack people if they can drive legally? What kind of comparison is that?

No but the reason is that everyone knows children arent responsible enough to do certain things. Their brains arent developed and they dont have alot of experiences to guide them. They are going through puberty. That's pretty much the equivalent of drinking 4 beers when it comes to decision making. Dont get me wrong I dont think they should get off but can't imagine they had a great upbringing and perfect childhood up until this.
If you asked most people if they could go back in time and change 1 thing I think many would say something they did between the ages of 13 and 21. People dont make the best decisions at those ages.

 

[G-19]

If you're not trained to deal with that level of trauma, you could just as easily fuck them up if you start playing EMT.

“Sir can you hear me, an ambulance is on its way.” Look at his body while you’re on the phone with 911 explaining his current condition and just talking to him to possibly keep him from going into shock. I never said “play EMT” or even touch him for that matter. No one even checks on him despite several people walking right passed him.

 

[Renard]

Antisocial personality disorder (the official term for psychopath) starts to show relatively early in life, with a rap sheet as juveniles. Their callousness towards the man's life is a good indication they're well on their way to an official diagnosis (which can technically only be made at age 18). Throw them the book.

 

[Otto!]

Charge them as adults. This is not petty theft ffs.

 

[hillelslovak87]

Antisocial personality disorder (the official term for psychopath) starts to show relatively early in life, with a rap sheet as juveniles. Their callousness towards the man's life is a good indication they're well on their way to an official diagnosis (which can technically only be made at age 18). Throw them the book.

A rapsheet doesn't display someone is a sociopath or a psychopath. There are plenty of people who commit wanton crimes over and over again who aren't psychopaths. It's not a definition to be simply tossed around, and disregard for another's life doesn't equate to someone being a psychopath.

Psychopaths never chose their genes, their parents, their early life experiences, and neither did these girls, but I think it's far worse when someone doesn't have the mental incapabilities a psychopath has, and just flat out doesn't give a fuck.

I'd think these soon to be lifers are of the latter, and our prison is filled with people who chose to act like them.

 

[HereticBD]

“Sir can you hear me, an ambulance is on its way.” Look at his body while you’re on the phone with 911 explaining his current condition and just talking to him to possibly keep him from going into shock. I never said “play EMT” or even touch him for that matter. No one even checks on him despite several people waking right passed him.

The Captain Hindsight hot take is nice and all, but you're asking a lot from the public that is in the middle of a severely traumatic experience. The people who stay cool and can focus under those circumstances, are either sociopaths or trained to do so.

All you see from the video, are literally four or five seconds after they approach the crash, and you're asking for them to diagnose his condition and relay it to emergency services. When most people see a mangled body, they're not exactly prepared to get up close and personal and turn on their EMT sensibilities, to which most have none. It's such a dumb thing to complain about. They called 911. That's all you can ask.

 

[Here's the thing]

Wait, are the two girls black?

They cannot be heald responsible if so. They're the victims here. Products of a systemically racist society that didn't give them a fair shake.

 

[Post 2 Decision]

Someone get that girl's phone...


And beat her over the head with it

 

[G-19]

The Captain Hindsight hot take is nice and all, but you're asking a lot from the public that is in the middle of a severely traumatic experience. The people who stay cool and can focus under those circumstances, are either sociopaths or trained to do so.

All you see from the video, are literally four or five seconds after they approach the crash, and you're asking for them to diagnose his condition and relay it to emergency services. When most people see a mangled body, they're not exactly prepared to get up close and personal and turn on their EMT sensibilities, to which most have none. It's such a dumb thing to complain about. They called 911. That's all you can ask.

Jesus, you really do love making your own shit up to argue. I said it was infuriating several people walk right passed this man and this is the nonsense you write back. Let me explain something to you cause it’s obvious you lack experience and are in no position to speak for anyone. I’ve been the responding officer to so many fucked up traumatic scenes and I’ve had multiple people who had no medical knowledge or training whatsoever that were concerned citizens hang with someone seriously injured till we could get there. It’s obvious you have no idea what you’re talking about but believe it or not when you’re seriously injured sometimes all it takes is to hear a comforting voice.