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Crime Headlining Crime Megathread Vol. 2

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  1. Ruprecht Hands Of The Judges Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    There was no explicit political point made, the story isn't explicitly political and almost no content in the OP.
     
  2. EL CORINTHIAN Black Belt

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    Even though it's terribly written im sure pointing out that a proven murderer out on bail 2 weeks after the fact in the OP can be deduced as "political".

    It's not partisan but it is political and it's a little rediculous to lump it into this thread.
     
  3. Ruprecht Hands Of The Judges Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    If the OP isn't political and the story isn't political and it's about a crime, it's going in this thread.
    If the OP had made a broader point about the legal system in Iran or gender equality it wouldn't have been merged.
    Otherwise it's just another anecdotal crime story.
     
  4. EL CORINTHIAN Black Belt

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    Yea but it really isn't though which is my point.

    Oh whale. Maybe suggest to thread starters that they should try to derive a politicized point to qualify the "crime" prefix before eagerly lumping it into this thread.
     
  5. Ruprecht Hands Of The Judges Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    That's in the OP for this thread and the thread starting guidelines. Make your OPs explicitly political.
    Also, find better sources than the Daily Mail.
    There's a lot more to that story.
     
  6. EL CORINTHIAN Black Belt

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    I don't need to find anything. It wasn't my thread. Just pointing out how it was foolishly placed here.

    Giving advice on what the content of the OP should have been is always better before derailing the thread, not after.
     
  7. Ruprecht Hands Of The Judges Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    I'm not speaking to you alone. We've been dumping or merging countless threads started by people that aren't WR regulars, because we have stricter requirements for OPs here than the other subforums.
    A thread title and link, tweet, video or article cut and paste isn't enough.

     
  8. SATW Yellow Belt

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    I prefer it this way, actually didnt wanted to post at first because i didn't want a never ending thread (like the last one
    https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...-head-off-in-so-called-honor-killing.4110692/ ).
     
  9. EL CORINTHIAN Black Belt

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    Oh that's right you were telling everyone equally to find better sources for that exact thread we were discussing. Please.

    You are well intentioned but putting this thread here is a blunder you aren't willing to admit. There was no real reason to have merged it here.
    Anyone with half a brain could have drawn a parallel to the story and the ongoing struggle of women in the region without an explicit "this is a politically charged crime y'all!". It cheapens the forums when you are the sole arbiter of what constitutes a "political" crime thread.

    Please tell me you aren't the only one allocating threads in this heap?
     
  10. EL CORINTHIAN Black Belt

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  11. Ruprecht Hands Of The Judges Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Yes, I was saying the Daily Mail is a shit source to everyone and I'm telling everyone (including you, since you asked) why crime threads need to be explicitly political or the OP needs to spell out the political relevance, otherwise they'll be dumped or merged.
    Same exact reason we don't let people spam the forum with threads about crimes by racial or ethnic groups when if they spelt out the political relevance we'd ban them for racism/ethnic bigotry.
    I've explained why it was merged, if you're not happy with the reasoning too bad.
    You could always try making threads yourself.
     
  12. BassAckwards Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    i'm not saying him abusing her is trivial. what i'm saying is that people over there are so emotionally inept that they commit honor killings over something trivial. women get killed every year for the sake of family honor
     
  13. sherdogwantedtonamemekiki Paint thinner smells really good

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    Old man should have crushed his skull under his boot. Not like that P.O.S. is going to be a respectable member pf society.
     
  14. EL CORINTHIAN Black Belt

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    Interesting

    Out of curiosity if i were to create a thread literally this instant with the exact same story/link but derived the necessary political relevance so it wouldn't infringe on any rules would i be penalized in any way since someone else who didn't had it merged here?

    I mean there isn't technically another thread on it right now. It's merely a passing comment in a mega thread so i should in theory be able to correct?
     
  15. Ruprecht Hands Of The Judges Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    If you read the story from the mother, it's not an honor killing. Sounds more like police corruption or criminal intimidation.
     
  16. SATW Yellow Belt

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    if its not a political then its racism

    edit:maybe i will post later after reading the schmules
     
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  17. Ruprecht Hands Of The Judges Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    You could, although like I said, the Daily Mail is a shit source. Hard to make a decent thread with a broader case about police or judicial corruption/incompetence in Iran when the story leaves out most of the details.
    Making it about gender equality would be lying by omission, since the complete story doesn't support that narrative. You'd need a different article.
     
  18. Ruprecht Hands Of The Judges Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    No, the point is we won't let people use Sherdog as a platform for racial or ethnic bigotry by spamming the forum with crime anecdotes. This is a commercial site and that sort of posting has no place here.
    The War Room however is explicitly for political discussion. If it's not political it doesn't belong here.
    To the extent that headlining crime is always at least tangentially political, we have this megathread.
     
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  19. Holic Sock Puppet Exorcist Yellow Card

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    Ok war room, which one of you was it.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ding-sword-fatally-shot-Detroit-officers.html

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    • Detroit police approached man in his 20s spotted brandishing a 32-inch sword in the middle of the street on Thursday
    • Video footage shows a man wearing some kind of protective gear approach officers near a police car while holding several sharp objects
    • The clip shows the armed man then lunge for one of the officers with what looks like a knife
    • Police fired Taser in an effort to stop the man, which was ineffective because of 'protective covering over his torso'
    • The man threw an eight-inch dagger, striking an officer below an eye during the confrontation, according to authorities
    • He is then alleged to have attempted to get into the police vehicle before he was fatally shot by officers
    • Authorities suspect the man was suffering from a 'mental breakdown'

    Detroit police have shot to death a man they say was wielding a sword in the middle of a street and threw a dagger at an officer, authorities said Thursday.

    Video of the incident recorded by witnesses shows a man dressed in what authorities said was 'something a hockey player would wear' while brandishing what appears to be a sharp object.

    The man is seen ignoring police orders to surrender and continues to wield what looks like a large knife as he approaches law enforcement officers near a police cruiser.

    Police Chief James Craig said after the man was shot late on Thursday, he continued to approach officers while swinging the sword.

    Detroit police noticed a man in his 20s brandishing a 32-inch sword and holding several other knives (left) while standing in the street on Thursday

    The man was filmed (left) approaching officers (right) while brandishing sharp objects

    The officer on the right is seen taking cover behind the vehicle as the man armed with the sword and daggers approaches

    At one point, the man lunges at the officer with a knife. Police said the man kept approaching while ignoring orders to drop the weapons

    He was able to climb into a police vehicle before he was captured.

    The unidentified man in his 20s was taken to an area hospital where he was pronounced dead.

     
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  20. Thrawn33 JUST BLEED Belt

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    Play stupid games....
     
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