Has the window on Rory being a great closed?

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Thesnake101, Jan 11, 2019.

  1. MEAN357

    MEAN357 DMF belt Double Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2015
    Messages:
    4,630
    Likes Received:
    6,560
    Location:
    Chiberia
    Lawler closed it in their rematch, most if sherdog was in denial.
     
  2. oceansize

    oceansize Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2009
    Messages:
    531
    Likes Received:
    194
    Location:
    TN
    The idea that someone can't be a great fighter because of a few tough losses is nonsense. By that measurement BJ is a complete goof. Couture a bum. People will say BJ is past his prime. Well that is BJ's excuse. Well Couture fought in two different divisions against much bigger men. Ok that is Randy's excuse. I'm not a Rory fan and I rarely think that much about him but I know great when I see it. Rory isn't a legend or the GOAT but Rory is more than good, way more. Rory is skilled and excels in every aspect of the game. Rory's excuse for his losses is that he ran into a ridiculously skilled and tough as nails Robbie Lawler at his zenith which bordered on legendary. Mousasi is a weight class up and enjoyed a significant size advantage plus I think he may be at his apex. The one loss that is tough is the Wonderboy fight. Not sure on that one as he didn't look like himself. Perhaps not over the nose job Lawler provided.

    I will say I'm not wholly against the argument he isn't great but at age 29 with some seriously significant wins over Woodley, Maia, and Lima coupled with the great fighters he lost to I'm not ready to close the door on him.
     
  3. ralek4grammy

    ralek4grammy Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2014
    Messages:
    2,495
    Likes Received:
    3,141
    Was just about to mention Erick Silva, TS. Thank you for ruining an otherwise prefect evening :).
     
    S U I H C U L A C C I likes this.
  4. MescalineDreams

    MescalineDreams Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2016
    Messages:
    14,223
    Likes Received:
    22,657
    how, exactly..there's nobody who's even a top 10 fighter in the tournament.. lol
     
  5. Workaholic

    Workaholic Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2012
    Messages:
    10,799
    Likes Received:
    20,643
    Location:
    Ontario, Canada
    Douglas Lima isn't a top 10 fighter...?
     
  6. Dionysian

    Dionysian Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2010
    Messages:
    11,476
    Likes Received:
    2,480
    Bit of revisionist history post-loss. Would disagree for sure. Saying that the guy that outclassed Tyron was not a great fighter just doesn't make sense. You can say his biological window is closing (very possible) but to go back and discredit his skillset like that is weird.

    *checks thread*
    Oh but he isn't in the UFC any more so yeah he has always been a can. Tyron sucking even worse. Will get exposed by whoever marketing tells me is the new new breed! UFC UFC UFC!
     
  7. Verace

    Verace Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2015
    Messages:
    11,233
    Likes Received:
    32,747
    [​IMG]
    Ariel Helwani is, to some extent, the one to blame here.

    His ridiculous over hyping of canadian athletes really did a number on the mma community.

    That said, rory is great. Like, really really good indeed. But as you said, the expectations sold by the man with the nose were too damn high.
     
    Ying Li likes this.
  8. CerebralKnievel

    CerebralKnievel Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2013
    Messages:
    13,572
    Likes Received:
    15,461
    Victories over Saffeidine, Woodley and Maia refute this highly questionable post.

    There's no shame in losing to Robbie Lawler - the same man who beat the competitiveness out of Hendricks.
     
    Ying Li likes this.
  9. Slatersan

    Slatersan Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2014
    Messages:
    1,564
    Likes Received:
    8,648
    Im saying he was good but had the potential to be even better... thats highly questionable?
     
  10. NoSmilez

    NoSmilez Black Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2004
    Messages:
    7,483
    Likes Received:
    3,254
    Location:
    NYC
    Eh current WW isn't out of reach from him. As long as he is fighting, he will remain in the top ten. The level of competition isn't too radical right now
     
  11. afflicted

    afflicted JC Penney $3.98

    Joined:
    May 21, 2008
    Messages:
    1,309
    Likes Received:
    39
    Location:
    The Wandwagon!!
    3rd best based on what??? He never won the big title
     
  12. HHJ

    HHJ Jeg reiser til mørkets dyp der alt er dødt.

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2004
    Messages:
    62,758
    Likes Received:
    44,435
    Yes,sadly i think so.
     
  13. Airdack

    Airdack Tiramisu can't melt steel pipes.

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2013
    Messages:
    1,952
    Likes Received:
    2,606
    Location:
    sandbagging beginner bjj classes
    The Lawlor fight permanently changed Rory. He took a careers worth of damage in that fight and his nose will never be the same. Pretty much any damage to his nose opens up the faucet and fucks his breathing. Lawlor is fucking vicious, almost killed Trigg and literally took Rory's career.
     
  14. submerged88

    submerged88 The 88 refers to a car--not H H.

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2002
    Messages:
    4,254
    Likes Received:
    1,717
    Location:
    colorado
    No. Anyone who gets beat so easily by a UFC washout like Mousassi (who got smashed by old Jacare) should go ahead and retire.
     
  15. TriangleMonkey

    TriangleMonkey Black Belt

    Joined:
    May 22, 2008
    Messages:
    5,261
    Likes Received:
    4,435
    Location:
    The MMA capital of the world, the Midwest
    I seen a beat and broken man when he fought Moose
     
  16. Drugstore Cowboy

    Drugstore Cowboy Nonpareil Dempsey = GOAT Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2018
    Messages:
    2,131
    Likes Received:
    6,158
    Location:
    The Old Continent
    Lawler stole his soul.
     
  17. dipstickjimmy

    dipstickjimmy Brown Belt

    Joined:
    May 17, 2009
    Messages:
    4,816
    Likes Received:
    3,545
    I am curious who #2 is? GSP is #1 and Matt Hughes was always #2. Are you putting Woodley ahead of Hughes? If yes does Rory running the table in the Bellator WW Grand Prix put him past Hughes as well?

    I personally would still have Hughes ahead if Tyron based on a much longer career, more defenses (I think?). Tyron still needs to rack up a few more wins IMO. It’s hard to compare different eras as Matt had so many fights where Tyron is in the era of fighting once or twice a year at most for almost all champs.
     
  18. COBRA03

    COBRA03 Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2005
    Messages:
    4,341
    Likes Received:
    448
    Location:
    Chicago, IL
    Even though he is only 29 years old, he has been in some real wars that may have taken a lot out of him. I did not see the Mousasi fight, what weight was that at? I assume it was at 185, which is not Rory's weight class. That said, I do believe he can be a force again, but not at Bellator. Nobody at Bellator will ever be considered great, because they are not fighting the best. If he comes back to UFC, he has a good chance of attaining his status as one of the sports best.
     
  19. genecop

    genecop Red Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2007
    Messages:
    7,754
    Likes Received:
    6,581
    There was a time.....The Time was when people started to compare Rory to GSP...I remember this, the measure of greatness side by side with GSP...That ship sailed, Good, yes, Great....Nope.
     
    90 50 likes this.
  20. skombolis

    skombolis Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2012
    Messages:
    16,675
    Likes Received:
    2,096
    The guy regularly considered quitting the sport so you gotta wonder how things might have been if his heart was in it instead of fighting in an emotional coma. But yeah, the window is almost closed unfortunately.
     
    90 50 likes this.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.