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You must not pay much attention then, Kyoji was on a 13 win streak before his most recent loss. He's one of the most talented fighters in the lower weight classes.
*Has China surpassed Japan and Korea as having the best MMA fighters?*
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You must not pay much attention then, Kyoji was on a 13 win streak before his most recent loss. He's one of the most talented fighters in the lower weight classes.
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What you see is what the UFC wants you to see not the reality
The UFC failed to conquer the japanese MMA's market thats why you no longer see competitive japanese fighters in the UFC.
On another hand you see plenty of sucessful chinese fighters when the UFC is trying to sell in China because learning from the experience they know they need some local champion or at least challenger to sell in a said country.
They are matched against opponents who have the right style to make them shine.
Thats why I'm losing interest for the UFC, this is just a scripted real tv show made to look like its really real
I won't say they failed in Japan.
It's fan expecting like PRIDE 3.0 in Japan and the reality is the country doesn't support it on that level anymore. RIZIN isn't killing it in Japan right now and neither did Dream. Both orgs tailor made for Japan audience and they don't care enough to blow it up again on any level that will satisfy PRIDE diehards. Unrealistic expectations from fans pretty much sums up Japan MMA in the last decade.
The UFC will take a good fighter from any country.
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You got to remember rankings are based one what have you done, not future potential. You have to beat proving guys to work your way up, it will always be this way.
Look at the College Football and the NFL. Every year you have guys who kill it in College(from tops schools to even division II schools) even look great against other great college players and even against great college guys who are now in the NFL doing well. The tops schools guys will almost always get more run than small school guys simply because history has shown they are dominating a better level competition(ie: UFC vs most of the rest of the world orgs). They get drafted to the NFL and they may flop or succeed regardless of school. But the guy that went 90 picks after him is in the pro bowl by year 4 and some guys at his position that were drafted well ahead of him aren't even in the league anymore.
Point of it all is your guessing, even two good looking prospects clashing saying they both should be ranked much higher is just a slightly educated guess. Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong and you won't know until they fight a guy we all know is good. Then they'll climb in the rankings. Rankings are based on history not the future. That's also why guys on the decline stick around in the rankings even though chances are the guy ranked 14th would knock them off of there 7 spot at this point of their career.
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Currently. Yes. All time. No.
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I wasn't disagreeing there. I was saying the rankings in the east are biased and has a result not accurate.
The flaw is that you basically need to beat a western fighter or someone who has recently beaten a western fighter for the rankings and people to give you any due respect.
- Example: Kai Asakura knocked off Horiguchi’s head and jumped from literally obscurity to a world elite fighter.
Fightmatrix ranked him #98
and #7 afterwards.
- Then he gets starched by #84 Manel Kape, who previously lost against UFC washed up Ulka Sasaki.
- Fightmatrix doesn’t know what to do. Manel Kape was then ranked #10 in the world. Simply because the system is broken.
- Tapology is even worse: after this Asakura was ranked 11 spots lower than Horiguchi. And Manel even lower than him again. it was like the fights never happened.
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Teh Leech still needs to be proven. He will be on Erick Silva type status if he doesn't fight more.
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Two words :
Hatsu Hioki
Every Japanese Can is a UFC contender until they join the UFC. JMMA sucks!!!
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It should stand to reason that it should. They’ve only got about 1.3 billion people.
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Maybe you should look at the list of guys Hioki lost to in the UFC? His fights with Elkins, Lamas, and Guida were all competitive, with many considering the Guida fight a robbery. He got submitted by Oliveira in a grappling war, and got KO'ed by a rising Dan Hooker. None of those are bad losses.
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Dude... 10 years ago Sherdog had Golyaev ranked top 10 for beating Gomi.
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How did he not prove himself in his fight with Zaleski?
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He looks good. Still a prospect though. The Magny fight is a step up but even Magny is little worn. If he wins, I'd like to so him against Wonderboy or Woodley.
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Magny is a step down from Zaleski. But yes, a win potentially gets him a fight with the Woodley/Edwards loser.
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if the diaz bros say he is a legend he is
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i heard if u mention jiu jitsu in japan they think of bjj not japanese jj
shows how bjj works
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What you see is what the UFC wants you to see not the reality
The UFC failed to conquer the japanese MMA's market thats why you no longer see competitive japanese fighters in the UFC.
On another hand you see plenty of sucessful chinese fighters when the UFC is trying to sell in China because learning from the experience they know they need some local champion or at least challenger to sell in a said country.
They are matched against opponents who have the right style to make them shine.
Thats why I'm losing interest for the UFC, this is just a scripted real tv show made to look like its really real
Yeah I'm starting to feel the same way, although I don't know if I will ever lose interest completely since the fights are real after all. Just have to accept that things are orchestrated more than we used to believe.
