Haney/Lomechenko - Who won the fight?

Who won?

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I had Lona winning thought he landed more and the better shots. Had Haney wobbled few times.
 
I had Loma edging it 7-5 but I also think it could've been legitimately scored a draw or gone 7-5 the other way. I plan to rewatch it later today. I'm not really interested in seeing a rematch. Never particularly cared for this match-up in the first place. Loma should move back down to 130 and Haney should look at Shakur or Tank next.
 
every facet of society is corrupt and it might seem futile but these guys who resign themselves to every scorecard are weak af
i didnt find this one too contreversial but the thought of just bending over and taking it up the arse everytime is pathetic
 
I liked what loma did overall but it’s a tough fight to score.

It’s okay to have Haney winning 6-7 but ultimately he didn’t impress anyone tonight.

I thought loma had the second half 5-1 and won 2 rounds in the earlier rounds.
 
What gets to me is the judge scoring round 10 for Haney. I'm not sure how that's possible without at the very least a strong bias or absurd incompetence.
 
116-112
that judge should be banned

vegas gifts decisions to haney
 
I had it 6-6. Loma kind of got touched up early. Like the first 8 rounds I had Haney winning 6-2.
Gave the last 4 to Loma cuz Haney was fading and taking rounds off.
Loma pushed the pace and had the bigger rounds imo. I think he deserved the win
 
Vegas does it again, probably a lot of people put som big bets on Loma, and Vegas in their usual manor decides do rob the winning fighter and winning gamblers, Loma won that fight.
 
ledonk said:
What gets to me is the judge scoring round 10 for Haney. I'm not sure how that's possible without at the very least a strong bias or absurd incompetence.
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Moretti is like 80yrs old and has been, let's say blundering, for years.
 
So according to some "experts" here, Loma is an overrated one dimensional fighter. Yet an aging Loma outlanded the bigger undisputed champ, wobbled him, and won in the eyes of a lot of fans and professional boxers?

Gotta love these sherdog experts
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CPH said:
Moretti is like 80yrs old and has been, let's say blundering, for years.
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Moretti still had it back in the first and second Canelo-GGG fights. Giving 115-113 Golovkin and 115-113 Alvarez is very coherent. But he is past it and should retire.
 
The 116 scorecard was bullshit but I had Haney winning the fight - for me it was very close but Haney secured it by winning the 12th. He did a lot of good work to the body throughout, dominated the early rounds and kept compsure when it got rough later.

Loma showed he's got tread on those tires forsure but ultimately he didn't go for the kill in the 11th when he had Haney hurt and he took the 12th off same as he did against Lopez.

It was a close fight and quite hard to score, anyone who thinks that was a robbery doesen't know anything abotu boxing.
 
Neither fighter landed much, neither was very accurate. That makes the clean punching, defense and effective aggression very close. In the clean punching department Haney secured a bunch of rounds landing the more telling blows (ie the rights to the body). And ring generalship is key. For large portions of the fight Haney kept Lomachenko at bay with the jab and rights to the body and when Loma tried to get inside and do his thing (ie pivot or step to his right to throw a combo behind the southpaw jab) Haney grabbed him or countered early.

It’s not like Haney outclassed Loma but scoringwise he did enough to bag half the rounds or a little more. Now it is possible to give the fight to Loma, 3 scoring critera out of 4 were very close in most rounds after all and he landed big upstairs a few times, but crying robbery on this one is far fetched.
 
Khabibs Tiramisu said:
So according to some "experts" here, Loma is an overrated one dimensional fighter. Yet an aging Loma outlanded the bigger undisputed champ, wobbled him, and won in the eyes of a lot of fans and professional boxers?

Gotta love these sherdog experts
<Oku02>
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people hate on him and call him overrated and one-dimensional because he's a big fan favorite and a lot of his fans use all sorts of hyperbole when describing him. it's a weird reason to be critical of a fighter, but that's how people are.

i had lomachenko winning this, but i'm clearly biased towards him. that said, no matter how you scored it or who you rooted for, the ukrainian came to fight. he was ready and he looked good. this was a really good, really competitive fight, and vasyl showed he obviously still belongs with the top guys in the division. his detractors will will shit on him for losing this fight, of course, but there's no shame in a performance like that.
 
Hagler said:
Neither fighter landed much, neither was very accurate. That makes the clean punching, defense and effective aggression very close. In the clean punching department Haney secured a bunch of rounds landing the more telling blows (ie the rights to the body). And ring generalship is key. For large portions of the fight Haney kept Lomachenko at bay with the jab and rights to the body and when Loma tried to get inside and do his thing (ie pivot or step to his right to throw a combo behind the southpaw jab) Haney grabbed him or countered early.

It’s not like Haney outclassed Loma but scoringwise he did enough to bag half the rounds or a little more. Now it is possible to give the fight to Loma, 3 scoring critera out of 4 were very close in most rounds after all and he landed big upstairs a few times, but crying robbery on this one is far fetched.
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Is keeping your opponent at bay showing sufficient ring generalship when he is the one pressing rhe pace, landing the cleaner and more powerful shots and more of them?
 
Sanserif said:
Is keeping your opponent at bay showing sufficient ring generalship when he is the one pressing rhe pace, landing the cleaner and more powerful shots and more of them?
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Lomachenko certainly won quite a few rounds, especially in the second half of the fight. If anything he switched to second gear a bit late. Again.
 
randomg1t said:
people hate on him and call him overrated and one-dimensional because he's a big fan favorite and a lot of his fans use all sorts of hyperbole when describing him. it's a weird reason to be critical of a fighter, but that's how people are.

i had lomachenko winning this, but i'm clearly biased towards him. that said, no matter how you scored it or who you rooted for, the ukrainian came to fight. he was ready and he looked good. this was a really good, really competitive fight, and vasyl showed he obviously still belongs with the top guys in the division. his detractors will will shit on him for losing this fight, of course, but there's no shame in a performance like that.
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Yes - I think the most telling aign that haney failed to fulfil his objective to dominate and outclass lomachemko is that virtually all the media pundits, trainers, fellow pros who had supported him winning handily either thought he lost or thought it was really close to call - including even Jeff mayweather and crawford who supported him.

I hope somebody is going to go through the entire fight in slow motion to score every punch so that we can have another bd hopefully more objective viewpoint.
 
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