Had Bisping fougth Romero as he should have and likely loose

BowserJr said:
Prime Bisping loses to any Romero, Weidman, Jacare, Vitor, Mousasi, Izzy, Whitaker, Machida, Luke in a trilogy, Sonnen, Lombard, Costa, Vetorri, Hendo trilogy, Gastelum... let that sink in
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Dude, don't be so obvious.
Even Sonnen thought Bisping beat him in their fight
 
pankrat said:
GSP would make it competitive for sure but Usman would be a very hard fight for him. He never faced a guy with a reach like Usman, who can punch and wrestle like him, with great cardio, power and durability.
Usman would be the favourite but GSP could very well be the toughest challenge for him, along with Colby
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Usmans has no knees now and Prime GSP should be favored over Usman
 
pankrat said:
Dude, don't be so obvious.
Even Sonnen thought Bisping beat him in their fight
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Most sites had sonnen winning

I dont like it but the scoring favors LnP. Even if it doesn't the numbers have sonnen winning too
 
markg171 said:
GSP announced his return while Rockhold was champ, not Bisping.

Nice try.
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GSP wouldn't have ever fought Rockhold, Yoel, or any real contender at MW. Why you think GSP ducked Silva for all those years only to return to MW to fight the weakest champ in Bisping? Why do you think GSP immediately retired and didn't want no part of the legit contenders at MW after the Bisping win?
 
BowserJr said:
Most sites had sonnen winning

I dont like it but the scoring favors LnP. Even if it doesn't the numbers have sonnen winning too
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Cool but some us saw the fight. An official judge, plenty of fans and media, as well as Sonnen the wrestler himself, thought Bisping won.
Saying Bisping can't defend wrestling as you say...just typical shertard.
 
HindustaniKush said:
Usmans has no knees now and Prime GSP should be favored over Usman
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Prime GSP can beat a man with no knees? Is that your point?
Cool mate. The Usman that we saw in recent years would be favoured vs any version of GSP
 
pankrat said:
Cool but some us saw the fight. An official judge, plenty of fans and media, as well as Sonnen the wrestler himself, thought Bisping won.
Saying Bisping can't defend wrestling as you say...just typical shertard.
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Sonnen didn't say bisping won. He said he might have cuz he couldn't remember much of rnd 1 and 2

Fact of the matter is the numbers, the scoring and the stats all show Bisping lost in a close fight.

The real robbery was Pings win over Hamil
 
BowserJr said:
Sonnen didn't say bisping won. He said he might have cuz he couldn't remember much of rnd 1 and 2

Fact of the matter is the numbers, the scoring and the stats all show Bisping lost in a close fight.

The real robbery was Pings win over Hamil
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Dude, the fact he took elite wrestlers - bigger and/or in the juice - as Sonnen, Evans or Hammill to controversial decisions shows he can indeed defend wrestling. No legitimate pundit, or the aforementioned opponents, nor GSP, would say Bisping "can't defend wrestling". He can win or lose, but its certainly a tough out.
So who says it? Typical sherbros. And here you are, mate
 
pankrat said:
Prime GSP can beat a man with no knees? Is that your point?
Cool mate. The Usman that we saw in recent years would be favoured vs any version of GSP
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No its prime GSP beats Prime Usman

And that

Out of prime current GSP beats no knees Usman
 
"Oh but gsp said he was coming back when rockhold was still champ" what a punch of pathetic delusional morons. Honestly the worst fan base in mma. They believe every word or version of event that comes out of gsp mouth even more than mcg fans.

Of course gsp never challenges Romero. His reign at ww had ended and he was lucky as hell not to take that loss vs Hendricks. I give him credit for getting out and preserving his mystique and avoiding the same fate as former "all time greats" like Woodley etc.

If gsp was down to fight whoever at MW they would have let bisping vs whittaker play out seeing as Rob had a interim belt at the time. (Never in ufc history has a regular dude had priority to fight the champ over the interim champ.. shows what those fucking belts are actually worth,)

Bisping knew he was on his way out vs the next challenger as well so he wanted a big name like gsp who he could maybe even beat. Gsp is a fake nice guy and his ego wanted that double champ status that once in a lifetime bisping could provide. The ufc had to pull all kinds of shit just to make that fight happen.

I hated the ufc so much for that circus fight but now that time had passed I've kind of chilled.
Bisping has been multiated and fucked up by giving his life to mma so why not duck the legit contenders and make a big pay-day?? He doesn't owe it to yoel to make him famous by ending up as another one of his high light reel ko (which he would have ended up doing)

As for gsp well, when you have a legion of nut guzzling fans why not take the opportunity of a lifetime to cherry pick the weakest champ in mw history for a chance to "challenge yourself" and keep your delusional fires burning.
 
pankrat said:
He left very arguably losing to Hendricks on a fight where he certainly took the most damage.
I dont think that versión of GSP would like to be in the cage with a specimen as Romero.
Obviously I don't blame him, he would be in close to 20lbs disadvantage vs a freak athlete
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I don't disagree with you.
But that version of Hendricks was more dangerous than Romero IMO. And say what you want, arguably or not, he did enough to make it very close. Close enough to make this fight controversial.
Yes, ROmero is dangerous. But GSP is the king of not making mistakes and following his gameplan... Romero waited for an opening... I don't think GSP would give him.
 
Romero vs GSP would be awesome, and I think GSP would win a decision by sticking-and-moving with a few takedowns mixed in at the end of a few rounds.
 
Shaddows said:
I don't disagree with you.
But that version of Hendricks was more dangerous than Romero IMO. And say what you want, arguably or not, he did enough to make it very close. Close enough to make this fight controversial.
Yes, ROmero is dangerous. But GSP is the king of not making mistakes and following his gameplan... Romero waited for an opening... I don't think GSP would give him.
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It's cool that its your opinion, but Im pretty sure not a single athlete in the roster, from today or yesteryear, would agree with such a bizarre statement, or would prefer to fight Rigg. Not even Jonny himself, there is a reason why the guy went through tough weight cuts and contained himself from his biggest pleasure in life (food): to avoid contenders as Romero.

Regardless, the bias is clear enough when you label GSP as "the king of not making mistakes"....apart from the fact that I'd not put such label on anybody LOL, much less on someone who isnt undefeated, particularly in GSP's case his striking defense certainly had flaws and as a matter of fact he got hit clean and hard by profficient strikers as BJ and Condit, and not as profficient as Hendricks or Serra.
 
Masturbin said:
Nah bro Romero is not a great mma grappler his top control is very bad/mediocre.He's great at getting takedowns but his subs and top control are lacking.
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Romero's grappling gets completely blown out of proportion because of his Olympic background.

He never really adopted a heavy wrestling strategy. Maybe he bulked too much to have the cardio, or maybe his knees were worn, or just he was too old to go back to grinding; but he was primarily a power counter striker
 
pankrat said:
It's cool that its your opinion, but Im pretty sure not a single athlete in the roster, from today or yesteryear, would agree with such a bizarre statement, or would prefer to fight Rigg. Not even Jonny himself, there is a reason why the guy went through tough weight cuts and contained himself from his biggest pleasure in life (food): to avoid contenders as Romero.

Regardless, the bias is clear enough when you label GSP as "the king of not making mistakes"....apart from the fact that I'd not put such label on anybody LOL, much less on someone who isnt undefeated, particularly in GSP's case his striking defense certainly had flaws and as a matter of fact he got hit clean and hard by profficient strikers as BJ and Condit, and not as profficient as Hendricks or Serra.
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Well, I could say that your bias against GSP clouds your view as well, but instead, let me explain further.
At the time Hendricks fought GSP, he was at the very peak of his career.
He used his wrestling (more than Romero), he had KO Power (as much as Romero) and let us not forget that he did not gas (remember stool gate?) That was about that time, on a 3 rounds fight while we can say he arguably won against GSP on a 5 rounds fight! Romero would have had a heart attack!!!
But more importantly, Hendricks was aggressive while Romero liked to play possum. That gameplan would have helped GSP, since he would be happy to throw jabs for 5 rounds without opening up.
Let us also not forget that while Romero is dangerous, at that time he was still decisioning Brad Tavares.

And while you are correct about GSP's mistakes, all they have in common is that his losses were what caused him to be more careful, take no risks and follow his game plan. Which he did and that's why he didn't lose after Serra.
As for being hittable, it would be quite a feat if no one would touch him...especially since he went 5 rounds decisions time and again... so it is quite dishonest to even hint an expectation for him not to get hit at all.
The fact is: he did not open up and took any risks.
He kept to his gameplan and won expected decisions (which, if memory serves me right, is actually one of the main complaints about him).
 
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