Guy Fawkes Night

They are legal to buy, however, police and council can request retailers not stock fireworks. Police can also apply for a Dispersal Order for certain areas. This means that crowds are not allowed to gather for any purpose. Including setting off fireworks.
Gotcha.

Last thing. Does Fawkes night generally get rowdy enough there that they have to do that, like some football hooligan stuff, or is it overreaching? What’s the feeling about it with the general population?
 
Gotcha.

Last thing. Does Fawkes night generally get rowdy enough there that they have to do that, like some football hooligan stuff, or is it overreaching? What’s the feeling about it with the general population?

The last few years have been rough, particularly in Edinburgh and Glasgow. It had gone way beyond just stupid kids messing about, and into large scale disturbances that required riot police to break up. Thugs were throwing fireworks, bricks and bottles at police. One officer needed hospital treatment after the police car she was driving got a brick through it's windshield.

Even more worryingly, a bunch of idiots were launching fireworks at a petrol filling station. Police literally ran into the PFS and screamed at the staff to get out. If a PFS catches fire, the fuel in the tanks would cause a massive explosion.

Guy Fawkes Night isn't really that big a deal in Edinburgh, so most citizens are happy for the police to crack down on the idiots. A lot of people need to get up early for work, and don't want to be kept up half the night by fireworks going off. Also, it can frighten pets. Some people have lost dogs or cats to heart attacks caused by fireworks. :(
 
The last few years have been rough, particularly in Edinburgh and Glasgow. It had gone way beyond just stupid kids messing about, and into large scale disturbances that required riot police to break up. Thugs were throwing fireworks, bricks and bottles at police. One officer needed hospital treatment after the police car she was driving got a brick through it's windshield.

Even more worryingly, a bunch of idiots were launching fireworks at a petrol filling station. Police literally ran into the PFS and screamed at the staff to get out. If a PFS catches fire, the fuel in the tanks would cause a massive explosion.

Guy Fawkes Night isn't really that big a deal in Edinburgh, so most citizens are happy for the police to crack down on the idiots. A lot of people need to get up early for work, and don't want to be kept up half the night by fireworks going off. Also, it can frighten pets. Some people have lost dogs or cats to heart attacks caused by fireworks. :(
Fawke. That’s why we cant have nice things… Those fools should be tarred and feathered like it’s 1600.

Though I don't really care about the pets and fireworks. We hear the same over here on the 4th of July but fireworks are still prevalent.
 
Fawke. That’s why we cant have nice things… Those fools should be tarred and feathered like it’s 1600.

Though I don't really care about the pets and fireworks. We hear the same over here on the 4th of July but fireworks are still prevalent.

Yeah, but Independence Day is one of the biggest dates in the American calendar. It's up there with Thanksgiving and Christmas in terms of how many people participate. That's never going to change.

Guy Fawkes Night isn't that big a deal. The major holidays are Christmas and, especially in Scotland, New Year's Eve/Hogmanay.
 
Yeah, but Independence Day is one of the biggest dates in the American calendar. It's up there with Thanksgiving and Christmas in terms of how many people participate. That's never going to change.

Guy Fawkes Night isn't that big a deal. The major holidays are Christmas and, especially in Scotland, New Year's Eve/Hogmanay.
That’s a good point. If it really isn’t that important anymore to most people, I can see having a crackdown on fireworks, especially if the day is surrounded by work days for most people. Most holidays here where we set off fireworks, also are accompanied by off days for many workers. Not all, but a lot of us have multiple days off for it and not just for that day.
 
That’s a good point. If it really isn’t that important anymore to most people, I can see having a crackdown on fireworks, especially if the day is surrounded by work days for most people. Most holidays here where we set off fireworks, also are accompanied by off days for many workers. Not all, but a lot of us have multiple days off for it and not just for that day.

Exactly. Honestly, more people could tell you the plot of V for Vendetta than the details of the Gunpowder Plot. It was a big deal in it's day, because it was the attempted regicide of a Protestant king, James the I and VI, in order to replace him with a Catholic monarch. At at time when Protestants and Catholics were fighting each other in several parts of Europe.

Although the Guy Fawkes Mask has become a symbol of social rebellion following the V4V movie's release, the OG Guy Fawkes Night was a celebration that the Gunpowder Plot had failed. Fawkes was burned in effigy on the bonfires. He was very much regarded as a villain, in much the same way Osama bin Laden was following 9/11.

Of course, that was 420 years ago. Few people today give a shit.
 
No fireworks! Forget that shit. Down in here in America's penis we do fireworks for everything from the Superb Owl ritual to the Diwali celebration. Mortars on Christmas Eve? You're goddamn right buddy.
 
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Almost as stupid as the marches commemmorating the Battle of the Boyne in Northern Ireland.
 
Sounds like England had it worse this year. Although my local petrol filling station had to close because retards were throwing fireworks at it. The station has six very large tanks of petrol. If the morons had started a fire that spread to the tanks, the resulting fireball would have vapourised them. Unfortunately, a lot of real people would have gone up with them.

Fucking morons. :mad:

 






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Firework Control Zones (FCZs) are active some parts of Edinburgh and Glasgow, and officers have been using stop and search powers in both cities as part of Operation Moonbeam.

In West Lothian some bus services were suspended in Blackburn due to antisocial behaviour, but so far there have been no reports of serious disorder.

Police Scotland said it was prepared to enforce 'dispersal zones' in certain areas where crowds may gather.

In Glasgow officers responded to a disturbance on a street close to the Govanhill exclusion zone.

A group of people outside a house party let off a significant number of fireworks, over houses and a nearby school.

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A large number of fireworks were let off outside a house in Govanhill but no arrests were made.

Two vans full of officers descended on the house but no-one was arrested.

A heavy police presence was also evident in the Niddrie area of Edinburgh, the scene of serious disorder two years ago.

The force helicopter was also deployed over the area, with footage showing small groups of people out on the streets, but not on the scale as in previous years.

Officers have already seized more than a ton of fireworks which were discovered in a van in Rosyth, Fife last month.

There have previously been low-level firework attacks on both police and fire crews in Glasgow and Ayrshire since late October.

In one incident a fire engine was taken out of service briefly. Police have also seized varying quantities of fireworks across Scotland including significant hauls during raids in Fife and West Lothian.

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Emergency services in Glasgow and Edinburgh have been targeted with fireworks amid ongoing Bonfire Night unrest.

Officers and fire crews have been hit with projectiles whilst attending incidents throughout the Central Belt, with police vehicles being struck in Clydebank.

No injuries have been reported; however one police vehicle has been damaged.

Bus services have stopped operating in parts of Central Scotland due to targeted incidents.

Lothian Buses has removed services from Elm Grove, Ash Grove, and Broomhouse Road in the capital due to ongoing anti-social behaviour, including the firing of fireworks at a bus and the smashing of windows.

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Bonfire night is an extremely busy night for emergency services across the city-region. Our crews will be working tirelessly all evening to help keep Greater Manchester residents safe Here are our Farnworth crews controlling a bonfire which spread to nearby trees on Fold Road, Stoneclough:

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Bonfire Night descended into chaos in Liverpool and Birmingham as fireworks were hurled at police officers.

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A third-floor balcony in a Liverpool flat block was set on fire after it was hit by pyrotechnics, which were then aimed at police and firefighters as they arrived.

A 14-year-old boy was arrested on suspicion of arson with intent to endanger life after a female officer suffered an injury to her leg.

Footage on social media from Birmingham also showed a police van being targeted by fireworks, which ricocheted off the vehicle as officers tried to retreat.

Police in riot gear and shields attended the scenes, which continued into the early hours of Thursday.

Officers and firefighters arrived at the block of flats in Primrose Drive in the east of Liverpool after receiving reports of a group of youths directing fireworks at the building. Firefighters quickly extinguished the blaze despite fireworks being hurled at them.

Chied Inspector Kevin Chatterton of Merseyside Police

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said: “We will not tolerate this type of disgraceful behaviour, particularly when it involves emergency services staff being targeted in such a way. It is only by sheer good fortune that nobody was seriously injured."

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A boy, 14, has been arrested on suspicion of arson following the incident in Liverpool

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Emergency service workers duck for cover as fireworks are launched at them in Liverpool.

Meanwhile West Midlands Police (WMP) said both members of the public and its own officers had been attacked after the 'dangerous' release of fireworks in the Dale End area of the city.

The force added it had made more than 20 arrests in the Dale End and Staniforth Street areas of the city centre on Wednesday night. The incidents involving young people 'saw fireworks released in a dangerous manner' as members of the public and officers were attacked.

They have been taken into custody and are still being questioned.

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This day always confuses me. A Catholic terrorist seeking to destabilize the monarchy in order to empower the papacy becomes a celebrated revolutionary figure around the globe while in England they celebrate burning someone alive in favor of saving staunchly pro human rights religious order with traditionalist values and turn into it a low key Halloween clone which often used to burn effigies of their own pollical figures who form part of the system they celebrate saving.


Oh yeah I didn't spot the covid emblem.



lol.. doesn’t get more English than this.
 
Exactly. Honestly, more people could tell you the plot of V for Vendetta than the details of the Gunpowder Plot. It was a big deal in it's day, because it was the attempted regicide of a Protestant king, James the I and VI, in order to replace him with a Catholic monarch. At at time when Protestants and Catholics were fighting each other in several parts of Europe.

Although the Guy Fawkes Mask has become a symbol of social rebellion following the V4V movie's release, the OG Guy Fawkes Night was a celebration that the Gunpowder Plot had failed. Fawkes was burned in effigy on the bonfires. He was very much regarded as a villain, in much the same way Osama bin Laden was following 9/11.

Of course, that was 420 years ago. Few people today give a shit.
I mean they parading around a torture device which they claim brutally murdered Jesus.. everywhere. That's what a cross is. That's the symbol for the religion. A Torture device.
It's kind of the same morbid glorification of agony to keep the masses in check, so yeah people will eventually turn against it or use it against the powers that be.
Basically the born rich establishes the glorification of agony to tell poor people it is holy to suffer.
The Muslims have their Al Zutt...stuff, Buddha was starving for a while
So when the cultures see great agony it is considered holy
Like the Holocaust. It wasn't some holy thing just a mass slaughtering but then you got media to capitalize on it directed by the born rich

I don't know if I am making any sense. I read too much.
 
I mean they parading around a torture device which they claim brutally murdered Jesus.. everywhere. That's what a cross is. That's the symbol for the religion. A Torture device.
It's kind of the same morbid glorification of agony to keep the masses in check, so yeah people will eventually turn against it or use it against the powers that be.
Basically the born rich establishes the glorification of agony to tell poor people it is holy to suffer.
The Muslims have their Al Zutt...stuff, Buddha was starving for a while
So when the cultures see great agony it is considered holy
Like the Holocaust. It wasn't some holy thing just a mass slaughtering but then you got media to capitalize on it directed by the born rich

I don't know if I am making any sense. I read too much.
The whole OT/hebrew prophecy for the messiah had something about him being put up on a cross or something like that. The cross was meant to be symbolic but in Jesus' case became literal.
 
The whole OT/hebrew prophecy for the messiah had something about him being put up on a cross or something like that. The cross was meant to be symbolic but in Jesus' case became literal.
As soon mankind started developing hierarchies that allowed power to be passed down, these kind original sin myths grew. It's most religions/governments.
"To win you must sacrifice. Unless born powerful. Then fake more money more problems"
 
I mean they parading around a torture device which they claim brutally murdered Jesus.. everywhere. That's what a cross is. That's the symbol for the religion. A Torture device.
It's kind of the same morbid glorification of agony to keep the masses in check, so yeah people will eventually turn against it or use it against the powers that be.
Basically the born rich establishes the glorification of agony to tell poor people it is holy to suffer.
The Muslims have their Al Zutt...stuff, Buddha was starving for a while
So when the cultures see great agony it is considered holy
Like the Holocaust. It wasn't some holy thing just a mass slaughtering but then you got media to capitalize on it directed by the born rich

I don't know if I am making any sense. I read too much.
The whole OT/hebrew prophecy for the messiah had something about him being put up on a cross or something like that. The cross was meant to be symbolic but in Jesus' case became literal.
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Yeah. I don't want to singling out Christianity is all. I'm not a nihilist or communist. New mythology is constantly created now to lead the next generation. Imagine them reading about Superman 1000 years from now thinking we thought of him like Hercules. Most likely there are much larger and higher presences in our universe given the age, size and structure. Maybe they are influencing us maybe not. Time and circumstance shapes culture and belief, Norse has ice gods, Egyptians have sun gods, people around the equator practice polygamy, away from it monogamy, and places with a lot of food serial monogamy. We view their gods through our eyes with our modern scientific ideas, I wonder how they saw it. To us the sun is powered by fusion, but to them I don't know. I've read both ways but I also think people were dumber back then becatse of the environment.
 
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