Gustafsson vs prime Machida

[kenCs]

Gus only has one top win in 7 years in the UFC is against a shot Shogun. He lost every other fight to a top fighter including blown out and/or finished in the 1st twice.

Bader is seen as the gatekeeper @ LHW yet he has accomplished much more than Gus.

Gus is much, much closer to a gatekeeper than an elite top tier fighter.

Way to twist and mae it seem like Gus is a bum. On a different night, Gus is a champ. Jones was lucky he scraped that decision. DC was given the hardest test by Gus and not Jones. GTFO with your bs. Seriously Machida is a nobody if he fought today.

 

[mmafighterEU]

This, minus the beating part, hehe. I'm telling you guys, watch that old Hoger bout; prime Lyoto was cobra-like at neutralising and picking apart guys, even those who fought long.

Can someone remind me what circumstances allowed for Alex to get the bout against Jon? I remember he beat Thiago over here in 2011 or '12 and then flew to United States for Shogun (who was in a looping W-L period), won, and suddenly was a contender.

Fans will crucify me for this but he really hasn't shown he belongs at the top yet. Sorry, but that's the truth. I know he hung in with there Jon (absolute respect), but some fighters match well with others sometimes by sheer design; I want to see the Alex that showed up for Jon over many bouts.

I feel the guy took sabbatical at a time when the fight-world was interested, watching and asking themselves who this warrior is exactly, as he kind of came out of the blue, but while the world waited and tired at his doorstep for a word or two, it turned out he lives across the bloody street.

If you honestly think Gus suddenly became a contender from nowhere, quoting, "as he kind of came out of the blue", then I suggest you do some research before actually posting something stupid as this.

 

[bubby]

DC never fought Machida, and Jones finished Machida.

So no, you can't argue anything.

If you can argue that Gus beat jones and dc, a definitively incorrect statement, then you can argue anything.

Machida beat dc? Sure! Gus did, too. The sky is lime green and trees grow in purple.

 

[ExitLUPin]

I really don't see Machida's leaps working against Gustafsson at all, as Gustafsson wouldn't take the bait and abandon his reach advantage.

Thats nice and all but youre picturing a version of Gus that doesnt exist. He gets caught by "leaps" and counters all the time (a shot Shogun and Cormier were doing it, prime Lyoto would have no problem). Its cool to picture him being defensively sound and using his reach to his advantage but that isnt how he fights. His defense standing is shit

Gus is a good fighter but not great, hes in the Chad Mendes/Kenny Florian mold, well rounded good fighter but not great. The fight against a shot Shogun was basically even through 2 rounds and Shogun came closest to a finish in the fight with that tight kneebar which Alex said he was scared of. Lyoto was great in his prime not merely good like Alex who cant beat top fighters in their prime and Lyoto would win a comfortable decision. Gus would win a round maybe 2 with TDs but hes not beating Lyoto standing.

The Gus wank here is hilarious but its mostly been new breed autists who think past greats cant compete with the top guys now lol. Same dummies were saying that about past MWs before Bisping KTFO Luke.

 

[bubby]

Way to twist and mae it seem like Gus is a bum. On a different night, Gus is a champ. Jones was lucky he scraped that decision. DC was given the hardest test by Gus and not Jones. GTFO with your bs. Seriously Machida is a nobody if he fought today.

Fucking lmao.

Gus was a harder test, huh? How come dc passed that test and failed jones?

Gus fanboys are hilarious, because they need to pretend reality didn't happen in order to make up achievements for him. Easily the most delusional bunch of morons in the history of mma.

 

[Redhawks100]

what an intellectually bankrupt shitpost... bravo

Oh wow, how about a legit argumentative point? No?

Machida nuthuggers are sickening. Hes basically a myth.

 

[Redhawks100]

Thats nice and all but youre picturing a version of Gus that doesnt exist. He gets caught by "leaps" and counters all the time (a shot Shogun and Cormier were doing it, prime Lyoto would have no problem). Its cool to picture him being defensively sound and using his reach to his advantage but that isnt how he fights. His defense standing is shit

Gus is a good fighter but not great, hes in the Chad Mendes/Kenny Florian mold, well rounded good fighter but not great. The fight against a shot Shogun was basically even through 2 rounds and Shogun came closest to a finish in the fight with that tight kneebar which Alex said he was scared of. Lyoto was great in his prime not merely good like Alex who cant beat top fighters in their prime and Lyoto would win a comfortable decision. Gus would win a round maybe 2 with TDs but hes not beating Lyoto standing.

The Gus wank here is hilarious but its mostly been new breed autists who think past greats cant compete with the top guys now lol. Same dummies were saying that about past MWs before Bisping KTFO Luke.

What a fucking terrible post lol holy shit

 

[kenCs]

Fucking lmao.

Gus was a harder test, huh? How come dc passed that test and failed jones?

Gus fanboys are hilarious, because they need to pretend reality didn't happen in order to make up achievements for him. Easily the most delusional bunch of morons in the history of mma.

Your logic makes me laugh little man. I clearly said I was a Machida fanboy.
Passing a test doesn't mean it wasn't hard. Seriously your argument is a bunch of bullshit.

 

[Redhawks100]

He got Knocked the hell out by one. Lost decisions to the other 2 and has 1 ranked win ever. Sokodjou had more than that lol. Shogun beat Machida twice, Chuck, Rampage, Arona, Overeem twice, Lil Nog twice, Forrest. How can you even compare the 2?

Shogun didn't beat Machida twice. Btw, Gus would beat Chuck, Arona, Rampage, Overeem (lol), and Lil Nog. Shogun got tooled by Forrest when they were both prime. You literally have no argument.

It's styles make fights and Gus is a bad matchup for weak Machida.

 

[kenCs]

@bubby @ExitLUPin @wilKO

Pathetic lot tbh.

 

[ExitLUPin]

What a fucking terrible post lol holy shit

Make a counter. What has Gus accomplished besides losing to top guys?

All u do is make shitposts lol

 

[kenCs]

Fucking lmao.

Gus was a harder test, huh? How come dc passed that test and failed jones?

Gus fanboys are hilarious, because they need to pretend reality didn't happen in order to make up achievements for him. Easily the most delusional bunch of morons in the history of mma.

Cant edit my comment.

DC looked so much worse for wear after the Gus fight. He got dropped and took a lot of damage. DC had barely a scratch after the Jones fight and the most damage he JBJ did was an eye poke. Having a few takedowns to secure a round aint shit. Your logic makes weep for tards like you on here.

 

[ExitLUPin]

Shogun didn't beat Machida twice. Btw, Gus would beat Chuck, Arona, Rampage, Overeem (lol), and Lil Nog. Shogun got tooled by Forrest when they were both prime. You literally have no argument.

It's styles make fights and Gus is a bad matchup for weak Machida.

LOL @ Gus beating two of the best LHWs ever in Hampage and Chuck. Hed lose to 05 Nog as well who sliced through a prime Hendo like nothing. Arona could beat Gus too considering what Phil Davis did to him.

Gus cant beat top fighters in their prime.

Too bad kiddo.

Whats funny is Gus is the LHW Overeem of this era. Cant beat top guys, similar skillsets.

 

[FacePlantingPro]

Shogun didn't beat Machida twice. Btw, Gus would beat Chuck, Arona, Rampage, Overeem (lol), and Lil Nog. Shogun got tooled by Forrest when they were both prime. You literally have no argument.

It's styles make fights and Gus is a bad matchup for weak Machida.

Considering all those fighters you named were top 10 fighters, Gus would lose all of them.

 

[ExitLUPin]

Considering all those fighters you named were top 10 fighters, Gus would lose all of them.

B-b-b-but Gus is a top fighter and he ALMOST won!!!

Lmao pathetic new breed and Gus fans being unrealistic about his standing. Hes pretty much what Overeem was back in PRIDE, gave the top guys problems but ultimately lost.

Not even a fan of Lyoto but hed decision Gus for sure. His striking was much better in his prime and Gus is very easy to counter and pick apart. Only trouble he might have is Gus' TDs but even then Gus has mediocre control so hed get back up.

 

[yeguiza]

if it´s for the title: Mahida all day

if not gus

 

[runnpray]

Have you even watched the fight? wooooow, that's retarded.

No I'm just randomly giving gus the only round that he won. Geesh.

 

[bubby]

Shogun didn't beat Machida twice. Btw, Gus would beat Chuck, Arona, Rampage, Overeem (lol), and Lil Nog. Shogun got tooled by Forrest when they were both prime. You literally have no argument.

It's styles make fights and Gus is a bad matchup for weak Machida.

You sure Gus would beat ranked fighters? His career suggests otherwise.

 

[bubby]

Cant edit my comment.

DC looked so much worse for wear after the Gus fight. He got dropped and took a lot of damage. DC had barely a scratch after the Jones fight and the most damage he JBJ did was an eye poke. Having a few takedowns to secure a round aint shit. Your logic makes weep for tards like you on here.

Durrrrrr duh fight him loss was easyer Dan da fight him win becuz derp.

You delusional child.

 

[MelG]

Easy win for Gus

Most likely a 1st round knockout