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Greatest of All Time update

I've always thought it was Fedor, and still do, but I'm surprised Silva isn't the most popular choice.
 
Lack of elite competition(minus Big Nog and Cro Crop) is a blemish in my book when we're talking about who the greatest is. Also got KO'd by Hendo and Bigfoot and subbed by Werdum.

Not fighting guys your own size is a blemish on mine (when Fedor fought less skilled guys they were usually much bigger which evens it out) As soon as Jones fought an opponent his own size, he got severely beat up and arguably lost.

Fedor never lost during his prime. Jones arguably already lost during his prime. Can't wait to see what's in store for him down the road.
 
GOAT is opinion. You're standards of GOAT are your own, not fact.

Finishing is important to many. To quote Faber (talking about Cruz) "Its a simulated death match. You haven't simulated anyone's death."

sure it's opinion

i love finishes and he's not my favorite figher at all. Think he's quite boring really. but win is win in my book.
 
Translation: My opinion is right and your opinions are wrong.

Nope. GSP being #1 is fact. There is a thread that spoke of the significance of GSP's fight with hendricks in terms of goat that gives the factual breakdown. GSP has the best record against the best competition. There is no denying it. Gsp being #1 is fact. Everything else is just opinion based more on popularity than top wins.
 
GSP went out on a loss imo.

He may have won on two judges scorecards, but if he never comes back I look at it as though Johny ended his career.

I wouldn't call it a loss but it wasn't much of a win either.
 
I think this poll has it just about right. I'd give Hendo a healthier percentage of the vote, though.
 
Not fighting guys your own size is a blemish on mine (when Fedor fought less skilled guys they were usually much bigger which evens it out) As soon as Jones fought an opponent his own size, he got severely beat up and arguably lost.

Fedor never lost during his prime. Jones arguably already lost during his prime. Can't wait to see what's in store for him down the road.

As long as you are below the weight limit on fight night there is no unfair advantage that is why there's weight classes in the first place. Jones height and reach are gifts but having the fighter IQ to use them is talent look at Diabate who I think is 6 foot 6 with and 81 inch reach who's also at LHW with much less success. Jones has also beaten perhaps the most impressive resume of fighters except maybe GSP and unlike GSP has finished almost all of them.
 
Fedor. Jones might pass him if no one beats him for another 3-4 years though.
 
sure it's opinion

i love finishes and he's not my favorite figher at all. Think he's quite boring really. but win is win in my book.

Sure, a win is a win and domination can occur without a finish.
 
As long as you are below the weight limit on fight night there is no unfair advantage that is why there's weight classes in the first place. Jones height and reach are gifts but having the fighter IQ to use them is talent look at Diabate who I think is 6 foot 6 with and 81 inch reach who's also at LHW with much less success. Jones has also beaten perhaps the most impressive resume of fighters except maybe GSP and unlike GSP has finished almost all of them.

Jones is a HW fighting at LHW. He ran into another HW fighting at LHW, Gustaffson, and got beat up.

When Jones finally moves up to HW like he's hinted at so many times, he'll realize what Fedor had to deal with so many times. He'll be in a whole different world where every punch can knock you out cold and where he can't bully people with his size or keep them at arm's length like a big brother.
 
A win is not a blemish.

Depends on the context. I wouldn't hold it against him that he fought those guys, he got paid at least, but even when you're being generous to Fedor with the rankings of his opponents he's still significantly behind the amount GSP and Silva have.
 
I've always thought it was Fedor, and still do, but I'm surprised Silva isn't the most popular choice.

He just lost. If you took this poll after Fedor fought Werdum, you would have seen it the other way around.
 
Depends on the context. I wouldn't hold it against him that he fought those guys, he got paid at least, but even when you're being generous to Fedor with the rankings of his opponents he's still significantly behind the amount GSP and Silva have.

He's ahead of them when it comes to record against ranked opponents who held UFC gold.

Fedor: 7-0

GSP: 5-2

Anderson: 4-2
 
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