Greatest boxer ever?

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I've changed my mind.

Greatest fighter of all-time: Joe Mesi.
 
P4P Best Ever:

1. Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
4. Tiger Flowers
5. Willie Pep
6. Bernard Hopkins
7. Joe Louis
8. Ricardo Lopez
9. Muhammad Ali
10. Emile Griffith
 
ncmmarookie said:
P4P Best Ever:

1. Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
4. Tiger Flowers
5. Willie Pep
6. Bernard Hopkins
7. Joe Louis
8. Ricardo Lopez
9. Muhammad Ali
10. Emile Griffith
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Interesting.
 
Ali, he seems like the easy pick, but he really is. I mean when you say boxing he is the first name that comes to everybody
 
Liver Smasher said:
i'm never sick of hearing about someone who held titles in 3 different weight classes at the same time. it's unheard of. guys like him, greb, langford, pep and a ton of other all-time greats go largely unnoticed most of the time. it's good that generations later, people still remember and respect their impact.
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It was nice to hear Armstrong's name being mentioned by the mainstream sports media nowadays, and even up here in Canada he was mentioned a vast number of times over the week. My thing is, I'd have liked to have heard some more of those historical boxing names being brought up who have so successfully jumped in weight, yet, Armstrong's name was it.

Even out here in B.C. on the sports talk radio shows these hosts were saying, after the fight, that what Pacquiao did "was unprecedented in boxing history...except for Henry Armstrong". And here I was listening to this stuff and thinking "Hey, you Vancouver twits. What about one of your (our) very own who jumped quite successfully from a (reported) 108 pound flyweight to the welterweight championship?".
 
Sharkey said:
It was nice to hear Armstrong's name being mentioned by the mainstream sports media nowadays, and even up here in Canada he was mentioned a vast number of times over the week. My thing is, I'd have liked to have heard some more of those historical boxing names being brought up who have so successfully jumped in weight, yet, Armstrong's name was it.

Even out here in B.C. on the sports talk radio shows these hosts were saying, after the fight, that what Pacquiao did "was unprecedented in boxing history...except for Henry Armstrong". And here I was listening to this stuff and thinking "Hey, you Vancouver twits. What about one of your (our) very own who jumped quite successfully from a (reported) 108 pound flyweight to the welterweight championship?".
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I fucking HATE hearing Dave Pratt talk about boxing on the team 1040. I hate Pratt period.
 
Sonny said:
I fucking HATE hearing Dave Pratt talk about boxing on the team 1040. I hate Pratt period.
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Yeah, he's a something, that's for sure.

I didn't mind Taylor too much until last year, though, but there was one episode that really ticked me off with him and I lost some respect for the guy. He's still quite a bit better than Pratt, though.
 
My sig says it all. But hand in hand with Sugar Ray Robinson.
 
Sharkey said:
Yeah, he's a something, that's for sure.

I didn't mind Taylor too much until last year, though, but there was one episode that really ticked me off with him and I lost some respect for the guy. He's still quite a bit better than Pratt, though.
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Have you ever actually seen what Pratt looks like? He's always talking about his bachelor's lifestyle and how he'll never settle down. I think it has more to do with the fact that he's a fat old man.

I called in to the Pratt and Taylor show once when they were talking about Ali just because of something stupid Pratt said about Joe Louis, about how Joe never had any fights of huge historical influence like Ali did. He kept going on and on about how Ali was a world ambassador etc. etc. which I didn't disagree with him on, but when I mentioned Louis' avenged loss to Schmeling during Hitler's reign and asked him "Can you honestly tell me that's not a big moment in sports history?" he dropped my call and then trashed me on air.
 
Sonny said:
Have you ever actually seen what Pratt looks like? He's always talking about his bachelor's lifestyle and how he'll never settle down. I think it has more to do with the fact that he's a fat old man.

I called in to the Pratt and Taylor show once when they were talking about Ali just because of something stupid Pratt said about Joe Louis, about how Joe never had any fights of huge historical influence like Ali did. He kept going on and on about how Ali was a world ambassador etc. etc. which I didn't disagree with him on, but when I mentioned Louis' avenged loss to Schmeling during Hitler's reign and asked him "Can you honestly tell me that's not a big moment in sports history?" he dropped my call and then trashed me on air.
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Lol about Pratt being a bachelor out of choice. Good that you called him out on Louis and that historical boxing event, bad that he's an ass and decided to show his true knowledge of the sport. I can't stand Taylor and Pratt.
 
Sharkey said:
It was nice to hear Armstrong's name being mentioned by the mainstream sports media nowadays, and even up here in Canada he was mentioned a vast number of times over the week. My thing is, I'd have liked to have heard some more of those historical boxing names being brought up who have so successfully jumped in weight, yet, Armstrong's name was it.

Even out here in B.C. on the sports talk radio shows these hosts were saying, after the fight, that what Pacquiao did "was unprecedented in boxing history...except for Henry Armstrong". And here I was listening to this stuff and thinking "Hey, you Vancouver twits. What about one of your (our) very own who jumped quite successfully from a (reported) 108 pound flyweight to the welterweight championship?".
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haha i never get sick of that word.

question about langford: was he originally from nova scotia?
 
Sonny said:
Have you ever actually seen what Pratt looks like? He's always talking about his bachelor's lifestyle and how he'll never settle down. I think it has more to do with the fact that he's a fat old man.

I called in to the Pratt and Taylor show once when they were talking about Ali just because of something stupid Pratt said about Joe Louis, about how Joe never had any fights of huge historical influence like Ali did. He kept going on and on about how Ali was a world ambassador etc. etc. which I didn't disagree with him on, but when I mentioned Louis' avenged loss to Schmeling during Hitler's reign and asked him "Can you honestly tell me that's not a big moment in sports history?" he dropped my call and then trashed me on air.
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Yeah, I've seen Pratt a number of times, as I occasionally catch the repeat of their afternoon show when it comes on television in the midnight hours. Also remember him from back in the day when TSN was just getting off the ground, and he was one of their on-air guys doing the sports recaps.

He's got a Mr. Weatherbee look going on, no doubt.

I heard them do stuff like hang up on people many a times, and, I don't know. That one episode I was speaking of in regards to Taylor was along similiar lines.

If you do want a good sports radio station to listen to up here in this country, Hardcore Sports Radio (out of Toronto) is where it's at. They'll never hang up on you under those circumstances (not nearly), and they'll actually have a back-and-forth conversation with you as opposed to these guys out here who let me leave one comment and then cut you off with their comments. Pretty big boxing fans, too, and they were all over the Pacquiao/DLH fight in the lead up to it.
 
Liver Smasher said:
haha i never get sick of that word.

question about langford: was he originally from nova scotia?
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Yep, Weymouth, Nova Scotia was where he was born, and he lived there until he was about 13 when he ran away to New Hampshire and found work on the farms and whatnot around there.

Even at the height of his career, he was still being referred to as the "Weymouth Warrior" on occasion.
 
Sharkey said:
Yep, Weymouth, Nova Scotia was where he was born, and he lived there until he was about 13 when he ran away to New Hampshire and found work on the farms and whatnot around there.

Even at the height of his career, he was still being referred to as the "Weymouth Warrior" on occasion.
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i can definately see that. the guy was built like a freak of nature. in the few pics i've seen of him, his shoulder width is ridiculously impressive, as is the length of his arms. legend dictates that he was so proficient at administering the knockout blow, that he would not only predict which round he would do it in, he would also include which hand he would do it with, where in the ring he would deposit his opponent, and be true to his word...
 
Liver Smasher said:
i can definately see that. the guy was built like a freak of nature. in the few pics i've seen of him, his shoulder width is ridiculously impressive, as is the length of his arms.
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Yeah, he was doing hard labour at a young age, no doubt, and even before he went down to New Hampshire to work the farm, he spent some time working in the logging industry while still in Nova Scotia and may not have even been thirteen yet when doing so.

He was a little tank, that's for sure, although as he matured and when he was in decent shape, he was really not much more than a middleweight or a small light heavyweight. Once he hit heavyweight in his poundage, he was enjoying the good life a little too much, and was basically described as being, well...fat. Still had the punch to level anybody, though, obviously.
 
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