Gordon Ryan vs Felipe Pena

[randomg1t]

Ironically though his shit talking /posting adds views /eyes to the sport. That’s unfortunately the way the modern world works . He’s the “ bad boy” of the world. Not the way I like it but is what it is.

i imagine the only people who get drawn by this type of horseshit are teenagers. no well adjusted adult will listen to his tantrums and get excited. the challenges and talking shit? sure. but the constant complaining and the obvious persecution complex? do people really get hyped by that?

his highlight reel will get me pumped, though.

 

[RemyR]

Attacking Peña this way after the match isn’t exactly a good look for Gordon. I know he doesn’t give a shit tho.

 

[HunterAcosta]

i imagine the only people who get drawn by this type of horseshit are teenagers. no well adjusted adult will listen to his tantrums and get excited. the challenges and talking shit? sure. but the constant complaining and the obvious persecution complex? do people really get hyped by that?

his highlight reel will get me pumped, though.

I don’t but unfortunately youth drive social media nowadays.

 

[GoatArtemLobov]

Does someone know where to watch a replay of the whole event?

 

[CinemaKingdom]

Yes, the takedowns and sweeps gassed Pena, but Pena was already mentally gassed just competing.
You can't expect someone to perform well after finding out their friend got their skull popped by a handgun. Pena agreed to fight because he felt compelled to, not because he wanted to.

I don't buy it. He was all smiles, laughing, and taunting the first 20 minutes.

 

[CinemaKingdom]

I got word that Pena ate some bad toast for breakfast that morning, it really ruined his day and the mental stress of thinking about that bad toast made him gas out. It has nothing to do with Gordon making Pena work and carry his weight. Pena said he would say his prayers and take some Acai so that next time he will win.

I have advanced word that Galvao will probably have some bad toast the morning of his match with Gordon as well. A time traveling BJ Penn from the airport told me.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

is there no situation in which he doesn't come off as a douche?

i've never heard anyone claim so many times that they're the greatest ever and simultaneously always whine how they're a victim in some way, and how their shitty behavior is really someone else's fault.

i don't follow the sport at all anymore, come back for a week to get pumped for this match, and every single interview or preview, gordon is whinging about being snubbed, not being respected, being avoided, yada yada yada.

incredible competitor, it's a fucking treat to watch him roll, he's on a trajectory to be the greatest ever without the gi, and he's making it look easy... and yet he's still such an insufferable fucking man child.

What did he say that's wrong?

I'm kind of a Gordon fanboy, so I'm probably biased, and I get he is an arrogant prick, but he's usually pretty logical IMO.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

Gordon acts like man child . He sounds like a immature teen half the time. I don't think anyone can debate that he's not the best no gi grappler currently and for the last couple years.

Hopefully he grows up one day lol.

I like Gordon, but I do think a lot of people who become that successful so young kind of stop maturing at the age they get the success in a way.

I'm like a year and a half younger than him, unlike him, I've been pretty humbled from 21 to 25, you start to realize life is pretty hard and you aren't the best thing to walk the earth when everything you do isn't immediate, overwhelming success, which has caused a lot of growth and maturity IMO... for him he has never been humbled, so he still has that 21 year old arrogant prick thing in him lol. I would probably be pretty insufferable if I became that successful at that age.

 

[HunterAcosta]

I like Gordon, but I do think a lot of people who become that successful so young kind of stop maturing at the age they get the success in a way.

I'm like a year and a half younger than him, unlike him, I've been pretty humbled from 21 to 25, you start to realize life is pretty hard and you aren't the best thing to walk the earth when everything you do isn't immediate, overwhelming success, which has caused a lot of growth and maturity IMO... for him he has never been humbled, so he still has that 21 year old arrogant prick thing in him lol. I would probably be pretty insufferable if I became that successful at that age.

This . Bottom line is Gordon is only gonna mature when he wants and has to . Otherwise he has no incentive . But life has a funny way of dropping an 800 lb anvil on your head . Karma I believe .

 

[maximus__]

Everyone seems to say he is such a good person behind closed doors (except the B team), but when it comes to BJJ matches he is a dick.
It's fine IMO though I don't like his thing about betting big money on fights just to show he is rich. We get it he is successful and has spare cash lying around, but plenty of guys don't have that.

Lo dying sucks, but stuff happens in life every single day. You can either verbally submit at 45 mins into a match when you are starting to get the worst of it, or you can fight through and either win or lose.
Gordon Subbed Pena in the worst way possible. He made him tap to a position. I am very conscious of the fact, they would both do the same to me with no issues at all, so my opinion is based off pro athletes competing against each other as the best in their sport.

 

[kenetics]

I like Gordon, but I do think a lot of people who become that successful so young kind of stop maturing at the age they get the success in a way.

I'm like a year and a half younger than him, unlike him, I've been pretty humbled from 21 to 25, you start to realize life is pretty hard and you aren't the best thing to walk the earth when everything you do isn't immediate, overwhelming success, which has caused a lot of growth and maturity IMO... for him he has never been humbled, so he still has that 21 year old arrogant prick thing in him lol. I would probably be pretty insufferable if I became that successful at that age.

I look at kids like the Rutolo bros and mica . These kids are younger then Gordon and their extremely great grapplers who don't take many losses at all. They all have great attitudes. I like how Dalpra also acts too. These guys don't lose much at all either.

I try to give Gordon some passes on many things but he seems to always keep getting worse personality wise.

 

[Coconutwater]

I don't buy it. He was all smiles, laughing, and taunting the first 20 minutes.

You sometimes do stuff like that to convince yourself you’re ok. It’s fine if you don’t buy it.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

I look at kids like the Rutolo bros and mica . These kids are younger then Gordon and their extremely great grapplers who don't take many losses at all. They all have great attitudes. I like how Dalpra also acts too. These guys don't lose much at all either.

I try to give Gordon some passes on many things but he seems to always keep getting worse personality wise.

Yeah that’s true, his mindset reminds me of Michael Jordan’s… everyone says he’s an asshole with a massive chip on his shoulder, but that’s part of what made him great. It personally doesn’t bother me, but I get why people don’t like him.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

You sometimes do stuff like that to convince yourself you’re ok. It’s fine if you don’t buy it.

Yeah maybe, I wish Pena just pulled out and they rebooked it… because now anyone who favored Pena basically isn't counting the match lol… so the whole thing was kinda pointless

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

Everyone seems to say he is such a good person behind closed doors (except the B team), but when it comes to BJJ matches he is a dick.
It's fine IMO though I don't like his thing about betting big money on fights just to show he is rich. We get it he is successful and has spare cash lying around, but plenty of guys don't have that.

Lo dying sucks, but stuff happens in life every single day. You can either verbally submit at 45 mins into a match when you are starting to get the worst of it, or you can fight through and either win or lose.
Gordon Subbed Pena in the worst way possible. He made him tap to a position. I am very conscious of the fact, they would both do the same to me with no issues at all, so my opinion is based off pro athletes competing against each other as the best in their sport.

Yeah we will never know if Lo’s death affected Pena, he seemed pretty unaffected the first 30 minutes or so, but it’s reasonable to speculate it fucked up his mindset… I think it should be universally agreed upon that verbally submitting before he actually got tapped out was not an honorable way to handle it though… and then his fan base saying Felipe dominated and Gordon didn’t win is legitimately pathetic… again, I get Lo’s death affecting him, but acting like he didn’t lose because he quit before Gordon could submit him is just sad.

 

[CinemaKingdom]

Yeah maybe, I wish Pena just pulled out and they rebooked it… because now anyone who favored Pena basically isn't counting the match lol… so the whole thing was kinda pointless

It still counts even if they are delusional. They would have come up with excuses no matter what.

 

[rmongler]

Even if Felipe was feeling compromised, and it's understandable if someone would be emotionally affected by Lo's tragedy (i know i was)... in the end that's still his responsibility as a competitor. Resiliency, mental game, ability to react constructively to adversity, et cetera et cetera, is all just as much a factor in success as anything and everything else. It doesn't count as a 'pass' any more than having less balance, coordination, strength, endurance, flexibility, or any other quality than your opponent would count as a 'pass' for your opponent beating you (yes, that means you too Ms. Biles).

Noone ever competes while at some hypothetical idealized point in history where all the stars are in alignment for them, you are always competing 'on any given sunday'; and thus likewise, ability to maintain readiness for any given sunday is the often true test of all time greatness.

The least he could have done is play through to the end and not embarrass himself on the mic afterwards trying to asscover, and just own it.

 

[Coconutwater]

Yeah maybe, I wish Pena just pulled out and they rebooked it… because now anyone who favored Pena basically isn't counting the match lol… so the whole thing was kinda pointless

Bro, I don’t know who’s telling the truth, from what I heard, Peña wanted to postpone but Flograppling said he had to go out for at least 30 minutes or else he loses his compensation and stake money he bet with Gordon, so after 30 minutes, he was expecting to be able to walk off but they told him no, then he walked back onto the mat, grappled 14 more minutes with no enthusiasm, Gordon saw this as weakness and cranked it up more, then Felipe verbally submitted.

I don’t know for sure, what Flograppling did, but others are backing Peñas story.

 

[chino3]

Bro, I don’t know who’s telling the truth, from what I heard, Peña wanted to postpone but Flograppling said he had to go out for at least 30 minutes or else he loses his compensation and stake money he bet with Gordon, so after 30 minutes, he was expecting to be able to walk off but they told him no, then he walked back onto the mat, grappled 14 more minutes with no enthusiasm, Gordon saw this as weakness and cranked it up more, then Felipe verbally submitted.

I don’t know for sure, what Flograppling did, but others are backing Peñas story.

This rumor was started by William Tackett ( @tackett_jiujitsu) in a since deleted comment on Flo's page
https://i.redd.it/swvmaedgffg91.jpg

This was complete bull shit, and why the comment was deleted.

 

[Coconutwater]

This rumor was started by William Tackett ( @tackett_jiujitsu) in a since deleted comment on Flo's page
https://i.redd.it/swvmaedgffg91.jpg

This was complete bull shit, and why the comment was deleted.

It sure as hell looked like they had made an arrangement of some kind because Peña really looked like he was expecting to walk off after 25-30 minutes, from what I saw, he looked like he was expecting to be able to stop the match. Maybe the rumor is just a rumor, Flograppling sure as hell won’t admit to basically forcing Peña onto the mat and using his purse as leverage if the rumor is really a truth, something Flograppling wouldn’t want getting out.