Elections GOP Road to 2016 Primary Thread

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Critics in G.O.P. Say Chris Christie Is in a

 

[Makani]

Hillary is a charismatic blackhole. I think she knows this though and I figure she'll use music and Hollywood connections to make her exciting by using proxies to sell the idea of an historic Presidency as first woman. She'll also have Bill and Pres Obama stumping for her to help gin up excitement. I wonder if she'd allow a running mate to upstage her the way Palin did to McCain on the stump and chose a charismatic stump dynamo for a running mate.

I think Ayotte and Martinez could be VP candidates on the GOP side.

My money is on >10 appearances with Beyonce before Election Day. Look everyone, Hillary can shake it too! Horrifying. I think most people gave Bill a pass simply because they are pretty sure they would have done it too, I bet the Hillary Blowjob Mill shut down fairly early. That said, all she has to do it run a competent, well marketed campaign to put the burden on the GOP. I feel like she hates being upstaged, but I also feel she would do anything to win the Presidency.
All the Republican frontrunners are "flawed" in some way, because to a GOP primary voter there are somewhere between 1-1000 flaws that can make you unelectable. I'm thinking Walker-Bush is the showdown, with Bush being more electable on paper, but having the W. baggage.

 

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Chris Christie losing home-state donors as Jeb Bush makes inroads

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is rapidly losing support among some of his most prominent home-state donors and power brokers, who are either hesitant to back him or shifting allegiance to former Florida governor Jeb Bush.

Bush’s aggressive moves to lock up the Republican Party’s premier fundraisers threaten to undercut the Garden State governor before his expected campaign can get off the ground, while raising questions about how robust of a network of support Christie will be able to muster.

Bush has stopped short of directly confronting Christie by holding a fundraiser on his home turf. But behind the scenes, he has been quietly wooing, via e-mail, a cadre of high-profile Christie backers, including a group that attended a private dinner with Bush at New York’s Union League Club in January.

 

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Big hire for Jeb: Tim Miller as comms director

Jeb Bush plans to name Tim Miller, executive director of America Rising PAC, as his top communications aide, Republican sources told POLITICO on Friday.
Miller initially will be a senior adviser to Bush’s Right to Rise PAC, and is expected to become communications director if Bush launches his campaign. Kristy Campbell, who has been the PAC’s chief spokesperson, likely will be national press secretary of the campaign, or have some senior communications adviser role.
Miller is an aggressive, younger operative who can be expected to inject a pugilistic style into Bush’s high command. America Rising – based in Arlington, Va. — is the two-year-old GOP opposition-research group that relentlessly spattered Democratic Senate candidates during the last cycle.

Jeb Bush Just Made a Big Move Against Hillary Clinton

Jeb Bush's burgeoning 2016 campaign team just adopted a new guard dog.

On Friday, Politico broke the news that Bush's camp was hiring Tim Miller, the executive director of America Rising, as his top communications aide. America Rising is a conservative opposition-research firm that has been lasering in on Hillary Clinton over the past two years.

Miller has quickly become a formidable peddler of oppo research, both through his group and on his Twitter feed. Last June, America Rising published a 112-page e-book essentially outlining the conservative playbook against Hillary Clinton in 2016. America Rising's website is rife with clicky headlines and slick in-house graphics detailing Clinton's peccadilloes, most recently her Clinton Foundation flap. They even sell anti-Clinton merch, like this T-shirt that reads, "I wish I was as broke as the Clintons".

 

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Walker Says He'll Sign Right-to-Work

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker said this week that he will sign right-to-work legislation if it gets to his desk.

In a statement issued Friday, Walker press secretary Laurel Patrick said: "Governor Walker continues to focus on budget priorities to grow our economy and to streamline state government. With that said, Governor Walker co-sponsored right-to-work legislation as a lawmaker and supports the policy. If this bill makes it to his desk, Governor Walker will sign it into law."

 

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Jeb Bush Seen Benefiting From Proposed Florida Primary Date

An influential Florida state senator who supports Jeb Bush

 

[Just a username]

Very interesting thread, cheers.

I think that whomever they nominate loses to Hillary though.

 

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Very interesting thread, cheers.

I think that whomever they nominate loses to Hillary though.

Hilary seems to be the favorite for all of 2016 but only time will tell. I just really enjoy primary races. 2012 was fun to watch despite the inevitability of Romney winning.

 

[MyOwnSummer12]

Willie Horton sez u be posting from the bubble

I don't give a fuck.

 

[MyOwnSummer12]

Hillary is a charismatic blackhole. I think she knows this though and I figure she'll use music and Hollywood connections to make her exciting by using proxies to sell the idea of an historic Presidency as first woman. She'll also have Bill and Pres Obama stumping for her to help gin up excitement. I wonder if she'd allow a running mate to upstage her the way Palin did to McCain on the stump and chose a charismatic stump dynamo for a running mate.

I think Ayotte and Martinez could be VP candidates on the GOP side.

Ayotte is John McCain's and Lindsey Graham's little hand puppet. Another brain dead interventionist neocon.

 

[MyOwnSummer12]

Then I'd like you to see you continue using this thread in coming months. Can you tell me how close Ron's team is with Rand's new operation? The articles I'm posting keep talking about how he has a dangerous game right now of appeasing his fathers following while also finding a way to branch out not only to other GOP voters but independents as well.

I was just comparing the difference of Iowa from other states and the nation as a whole. It's farther right than what we will be seeing after.

Rand is definitely walking a tightrope. Can he thread the needle? I think he might actually accomplish that; Rand is incredibly savvy. People underestimate him at their own peril.

Pretty sure I'll be in Iowa for Rand's campaign. I'll share any insights I learn there.

 

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Swing-state poll: Voters want change

Voters in three key swing states that went for President Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012 say they want the next president

 

[Gandhi]

I don't give a fuck.

About reality. At least admit the Rs wrote the book on identity politics.

 

[ShoelessRye]

Ayotte is John McCain's and Lindsey Graham's little hand puppet. Another brain dead interventionist neocon.

Right. But she has FP "credentials" because of it now. MSM loves them some McCain (when he's not picking Palin as his running mate), and Ayotte would add FP credentials and being female to any GOP Gov's Presidential Ticket.

 

[Makani]

Swing-state poll: Voters want change

Kind of silly, especially the disapproval rates for his economic policies. Not that he has single-handedly fixed the economy, but who do you give credit to if not the sitting President? If people actually think that way, it might help Hillary though. You people want a painfully white, run of the mill dynasty politician who has no new ideas and leans right on many issues? Here you go. Now swallow.

 

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Kind of silly, especially the disapproval rates for his economic policies. Not that he has single-handedly fixed the economy, but who do you give credit to if not the sitting President? If people actually think that way, it might help Hillary though. You people want a painfully white, run of the mill dynasty politician who has no new ideas and leans right on many issues? Here you go. Now swallow.

I think a lot of people factor in the length of the recession and quality of jobs. Many higher paying jobs have been replaced with part part lower wage ones. The recovery isn't complete yet unless this is the new normal. Obama still has time to come up with a strategy for this. Income stagnation/inequality was his central piece in the past two SOTUs.

 

[Makani]

I think a lot of people factor in the length of the recession and quality of jobs. Many higher paying jobs have been replaced with part part lower wage ones. The recovery isn't complete yet unless this is the new normal. Obama still has time to come up with a strategy for this. Income stagnation/inequality was his central piece in the past two SOTUs.

Yeah, I'm hoping he tries to get some things done in his remaining time, but you know the shrieks of class warfare are never far away, and that's where he will have to go to actually make a difference in the style of economy the US runs. It's an easy target for the Right, and could hurt the 2016 candidate. But I think it is unfair to criticize him on the economy while simultaneously defending or ignoring the increasing income inequality. I'm interested to see what the economic storylines are in 2016, other than the usual jobs, jobs, jobs.

 

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Yeah, I'm hoping he tries to get some things done in his remaining time, but you know the shrieks of class warfare are never far away, and that's where he will have to go to actually make a difference in the style of economy the US runs. It's an easy target for the Right, and could hurt the 2016 candidate. But I think it is unfair to criticize him on the economy while simultaneously defending or ignoring the increasing income inequality. I'm interested to see what the economic storylines are in 2016, other than the usual jobs, jobs, jobs.

If you look at both parties tax reform plans, they both are progressive. They each just shift things around on a 1040 but the calculation itself ensures poorer people still win out. I can show more detail on it later when I'm home.

With that said, I think there is hope for tax reform but it will be held off until after the election. If the GOP doesn't secure all three branches, they may decide to tackle certain issues and we may finally see bipartisanship on 1-2 issues.

 

[Makani]

If you look at both parties tax reform plans, they both are progressive. They each just shift things around on a 1040 but the calculation itself ensures poorer people still win out. I can show more detail on it later when I'm home.

With that said, I think there is hope for tax reform but it will be held off until after the election. If the GOP doesn't secure all three branches, they may decide to tackle certain issues and we may finally see bipartisanship on 1-2 issues.

I think corporate taxes and taxes on foreign business are going to be where most of the legislative problems come from. There are a lot of loopholes that need to be closed, and I doubt that has the muster to pass. I am...cautiously optimistic? I'd like to see the GOP humbled a bit this election, I feel like we're a couple cracks from compromise.

 

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I think corporate taxes and taxes on foreign business are going to be where most of the legislative problems come from. There are a lot of loopholes that need to be closed, and I doubt that has the muster to pass. I am...cautiously optimistic? I'd like to see the GOP humbled a bit this election, I feel like we're a couple cracks from compromise.

I know you may not agree with this but I think when it comes to tax reform, corporate taxes will not be addressed the way they need too. Both parties are paid off far too much for there to be a chance of that occurring. The most I've heard of anything to address that is lowering the rate for companies bringing back offshore money so in other words, giving them a lower rate for not originally even paying their full tax amount.

Competing country rates also are another reason I don't think much will happen. The biggest things I think may be done are with payroll eliminating the SS tax ceiling (progressive). Social security isn't sustainable in the long run and a move like that will do a lot to help.