GOP = National Embarrassment

Fair enough. Anything can happen but I think Hilary is a pretty big favorite and will remain one barring scandal or unforeseen events.

Even then. The republicans have spent the last few years and tens of millions of dollars trying to make her look bad and in a way it's worked... Yet she is still going to trounce these 2 jokers running on the other side so what does that tell you about right wing politics?
 
The GOP is making our country look like a bunch of idiots, wackos, and morons. The two front-runners in the race are literately talking about each other wives! How can anyone in the GOP be proud of these two?

Here’s the challenge to Republicans on this site. Without mentioning Obama, Hillary, Bernie, or any other democrat, explain how you can be proud of your party and the people you are electing.

either democrat would still be a worse president. that's how bad the other side is.
 
Fair enough. Anything can happen but I think Hilary is a pretty big favorite and will remain one barring scandal or unforeseen events.


Barring a major attack on US soil or her actually being indicted (which won't happen)
 
It has more to do with the fact that democrats keep the media circus around Trump going 24/7 and spend 20 hours talking about retweets so you completely ignore the dirty policies of the DNC frontrunner who has lied thought out the entire campaign and even other democrats have called her out on it. she's basically carbon copy of the policies of Obama and Sanders and is using that to get elected and people are falling for it. As long as everyone can talk about how Trump retweeted a picture of his wife (even tho Cruz was the one who started this shit) you can continue to convince yourself that Hillary Clinton is a safe and rational candidate.
It's not a leftist conspiracy. Trump is just that popular, that offensive, and commands that much attention from everybody, on both sides of our politics.
 
The GOP is the worst political party in the developed world and has been since long before Trump came along. As ridiculous as he is I don't think we've seen the bottom of the barrel yet. There's worse things in the world than twitter slapfights.
Pretty sure there are some far right European parties that have that title
 
The GOP is making our country look like a bunch of idiots, wackos, and morons. The two front-runners in the race are literately talking about each other wives! How can anyone in the GOP be proud of these two?

Here’s the challenge to Republicans on this site. Without mentioning Obama, Hillary, Bernie, or any other democrat, explain how you can be proud of your party and the people you are electing.
Though I'm a RINO, I'm not proud of the Repub candidates. I wish Rand Paul was the nominee.
 
The last Republican candidate for president was Mitt who was as milquetoast and presidential as they come. He was governor of an overwhelmingly Democratic state and still worked with people and got stuff done. While the primaries were a clown show with the Cain train, Bachman, and Santorum's random rise, I wouldn't say Romney or Ryan had the behavior of Biden.

I'm not a Republican, but I am proud that they rejected Jeb and the political oligarchy that it would imply. The idea of political families is pathetic and against one of the big reasons we formed a country.

They also get credit in my book for giving a voice to Libertarian ideas.

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Cruz and Trump are an embarrassment. Clinton being so far in the lead with no real options is an embarrassment to.
 
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The GOP is making our country look like a bunch of idiots, wackos, and morons. The two front-runners in the race are literately talking about each other wives! How can anyone in the GOP be proud of these two?

Here’s the challenge to Republicans on this site. Without mentioning Obama, Hillary, Bernie, or any other democrat, explain how you can be proud of your party and the people you are electing.

I don't accept your idiotic premise. If you are bothered by embarrassment then the history of the Democratic party is far worse than that of the Republican party. Don't get me wrong, there is plenty of silliness from Republicans, but Democrats make them look like pikers in that regard. Whether you look at racist government policies, thieving political machines, indefensible war mongering, or sex scandals, Democrats lead the way.
 
I don't accept your idiotic premise. If you are bothered by embarrassment then the history of the Democratic party is far worse than that of the Republican party. Don't get me wrong, there is plenty of silliness from Republicans, but Democrats make them look like pikers in that regard. Whether you look at racist government policies, thieving political machines, indefensible war mongering, or sex scandals, Democrats lead the way.

You fail.....

Fact is you can't say anything positive about your own candidates. The only thing you have is complaining about the dems. It's a simple request, state how you are proud of the candidates your party has as front runners without bringing up democrats. You simply don't have anything good to say about them because they are sludge.
 
You fail.....

Fact is you can't say anything positive about your own candidates. The only thing you have is complaining about the dems. It's a simple request, state how you are proud of the candidates your party has as front runners without bringing up democrats. You simply don't have anything good to say about them because they are sludge.

Theres no need to state why someone is proud of Trump or Cruz. All they need to do is state what they have heard that they support.

You guys keep trying to use issues the other side literally doesnt' care about. Trump says controversial things? The attitude of his supporters are "so what".
 
I love how every four years people act like this is a new thing… It's called politics! This is nothing new!

Read history books of past elections…
 
There is something odd about discussing the pros of an adversarial process without discussing the interplay of the 2 adversaries.

But something positive to say about Trump is that it's been a long time since someone with his range of professional successes has run for President. Spin aside, Trump has been successful in the real estate market and in the television market (anyone who thinks that success in the business world means 0 failures doesn't understand the business world). From all accounts, his children are positive, upstanding members of society. Despite never having run a campaign before, he's become the front runner in an entrenched party system.

That should tell you that, despite the negative optics, the man is capable of devising a winning strategy in a field that he is unfamiliar with and following through. Given the extreme range of new scenarios any President will face upon taking such a unique job, that's a skill that shouldn't be undervalued.
 
This thread turned into a dump worth one.
 
The GOP is making our country look like a bunch of idiots, wackos, and morons. The two front-runners in the race are literately talking about each other wives! How can anyone in the GOP be proud of these two?

Here’s the challenge to Republicans on this site. Without mentioning Obama, Hillary, Bernie, or any other democrat, explain how you can be proud of your party and the people you are electing.

The supreme idiots of the world are those running the EU and it isn't even close. They have terror attacks every month and the public hates what is happening to their once great cities.

But sorry words speak louder than actions with you so go ahead and freak out over personal campaign jabs.
 
On Obama: "A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee" -Bill Clinton
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...ama-coffee-years-game-change-article-1.197492

Jefferson hired a writer to pen insults rather than dirty his own hands (at least at first). One of his most creative lines said that Adams was a "hideous hermaphroditical character which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman." Adams' Federalists carried things even further, asking voters, "Are you prepared to see your dwellings in flames... female chastity violated... children writhing on the pike? GREAT GOD OF COMPASSION AND JUSTICE, SHIELD MY COUNTRY FROM DESTRUCTION." I bet the Federalists would be so very upset to know that Jefferson was immortalized in 1936 as one of America's great presidents on Mount Rushmore. After such a nasty election, Congress passed the Twelfth Amendment, stating that the nominee to get the second-most number of votes would no longer be elected vice president.
http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/28/5-nastiest-us-presidential-elections-in-history/

Apparently those Adams boys are scrappy fellows. When Andrew Jackson ran against incumbant John Quincy Adams in 1828, it was not pretty. Adams' previous term had not been a very successful one, but he was prepared to sling a little mud anyway. He and his handlers said Jackson had the personality of a dictator, was too uneducated to be president (they claimed he spelled Europe 'Urope'), and hurled all sorts of horrible insults at his wife, Rachel. Rachel had been in an abusive marriage with a man who finally divorced her, but divorce was still quite the scandal at the time. The Federalists called her a "dirty black wench", a "convicted adulteress" and said she was prone to "open and notorious lewdness".
http://www.neatorama.com/2008/01/28/5-nastiest-us-presidential-elections-in-history/

Yep, even Abraham Lincoln was dealt his share of crap. But he was pretty good at dealing it too. Although it's normal - and expected - for candidates to stump across the country in any little small town that will have them, but in 1860 it was considered a little tacky. Stephen Douglas chose this tactic anyway, but claimed that he was really just taking a leisurely train ride from D.C. to New York to visit his mom. Lincoln and his supporters took note of the fact that it took him over a month to get there and even put out a "Lost Child" handbill that said he "Left Washington, D.C. some time in July, to go home to his mother... who is very anxious about him. Seen in Philadelphia, New York City, Hartford, Conn., and at a clambake in Rhode Island. Answers to the name Little Giant. Talks a great deal, very loud, always about himself." 'Little Giant' was a potshot at Douglas' height - he was only 5'4". He was also said to be "about five feet nothing in height and about the same in diameter the other way." Douglas took aim at Lincoln, too, saying he was a "horrid-looking wretch, sooty and scoundrelly in aspect, a cross between the nutmeg dealer, the horse-swapper and the nightman." Another good one? "Lincoln is the leanest, lankest, most ungainly mass of legs and arms and hatchet face ever strung on a single frame."
 
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Who is an embarrassment on the left that is running for President? Hillary and Bernie conduct themselves like adults and are not inflammatory. The respect each other at debates and discuss issues.

Republicans are now going after each others wives and literally comparing dick sizes.

Maybe you don't like Dems and have different world views, but your kids wouldn't be embarrassed to say President Clinton or Sanders, but should Trump or Cruz win my god, it's really bad.


Hillary and Bernie acting like adults?

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What is embarrassing about Hillary?

And to save time, the "scandals" are not embarrassing unless something comes out of them. Until then, it's just politics.

What is embarrassing about Hillary?

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There is something odd about discussing the pros of an adversarial process without discussing the interplay of the 2 adversaries.
This isn't especially difficult for democrats though. For instance, my party (not technically mine, I just side with them lately) has consistently advocated for human rights. The idea of healthcare as a human right, expanding the protections against discrimination, and an immigration policy that acknowledges the contribution of undocumented contributors, to name three. My party is advancing pragmatic solutions to these issues and generally responding to the will of the majority. I won't go on, but I have good positive reasons to be proud of the democrats these days.

When I try to do the same for republicans, the well is pretty dry.
 
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