Goodbye Fedor vs. Crocop: The HW division is on a whole new level now

[Bubblun]

lmao... Ya know, mate.that´s what I truly love in this forum: when the dude´s completely owned, has absolutely no rebuttals on technical sequences & skill sets... watchin´him crumblin´, meltin´... goin´ full ad hominem...

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"Don't even dare to quote me ever again"

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Ya´re not qualified to talk about that Arona fight, dude... Ya wouldnt even recognize Zouev or Pitkov...

No, I don't recognize Zouev or Pitkov.
I am glad of that actually, it means I am not on the autism spectrum.

Fuck Zouev and Piktov too by the way.

 

[gono btw]

No, I don't recognize Zouev or Pitkov.
I am glad of that actually, it means I am not on the autism spectrum.

Fuck Zouev and Piktov too by the way.

ahhahahahah...thought ya were done with poor Gono, mate?

Well, if ya cant recognize Zouev or Pitkov, ya cant assess that Volk Han interview, and ya played yourself, look like a fool now.

 

[Bubblun]

ahhahahahah...thought ya were done with poor Gono, mate?

Well, if ya cant recognize Zouev or Pitkov, ya cant assess that Volk Han interview, and ya played yourself, look like a fool now.

Obsessions, repetitive behaviour and routines can be a source of enjoyment for autistic people and a way of coping with everyday life. But they may also limit people's involvement in other activities and cause distress or anxiety.

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Autism's core symptoms are. social communication challenges and; restricted, repetitive behaviors.

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Somebody is obsessed with RINGS?
You aren't knowledgeable, you are autistic.

 

[DespicablePeep]

You don't need to bring old ass Anderson fights to discredit him.
I just need my pair of eyes to see Anderson being way more active on the ground than Fedor, and having a better guard (and by the way, why are suddenly interested in talking about Anderson, maybe you feel he is a potential Fedor competitor for GOAT discussions?)

For the 100th time, I don't give a fuck about GOAT discussions, Anderson, Fedor or whatever, so don't make it about "my fighter" against "your fighter", because you are talking to the wrong person.

Your whole existence in this forum is discrediting other fighters to proving your hero Fedor is the GOAT.
You are a sad fella, you know that right?


Let's put it this way, so you can't hide under straw hats.
YOU POST a fight, or a gif or whatever about Fedor doing guard retention, shrimping, sweeping, basically Fedor doing something that isn't an armbar or a bridge reversal, SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE.

Because, I am repeating myself again, Fedor ain't half as good on the ground as nut huggers like yourself claim him to be.

People shit on Derrick Lewis, right?
Then tell me the difference between how Fedor escapes from the ground and what Lewis do.
Give me gifs, or fights obviously, because I feel I am like the only one here that is trying to give proofs meanwhile you Fedor nut huggers are sucking each other's dicks.

Virtually the same.
That's all athleticism and power.
Fedor is Derrick Lewis on the ground, 30-40 pound lighter, with an armbar.





I appreciate your effort bro, at least you are giving examples or trying.

But let's put this way.
Volk Han on record said he swayed judges on the Arona - Fedor fight.
https://matchtv.ru/boxing/fedor/mat...-v-fedore-chempiona-volk-khan-interview-fedor

Let's pretend Volk Han is bullshitting, so the fight outcome was legit.
You have a promotion that doesn't not allow strikes on the face on the ground, grappling maneuvers don't score points, only submission attempt score points.
That's sounds awesome, on paper.

Too bad that not every submission attempt is equal and the judges apparently didn't know that or had the ability to see that.
Because trying to go for an hail mary guillotine that promptly your opponent uses to pass your guard and mount you, that shouldn't score you nothing.
Actually in every mma or grappling competition that matters, the opponent score, multiple times.
Same thing with a crappy foot lock attempt, that shouldn't score.

Having a mma promotion that is only about submission attempts is crap, sorry but that's the truth.
Plus the referee, judges didn't know what they were watching, that's even crappier.

Not many years ago there was this submission only grappling tournament craze, initially even no time limit.
Sub only, no time limit grappling, that's sound badass, right?
The opposite of the complex, limited rules or a IBJJF, IJF or wrestling tournament.

Too bad that if you eliminate points in grappling competitions, nobody would pass guard, because passing guard is hard against a good opponent and without scoring nobody has the incentives to do that.
What happened is you eliminate points, you eliminate guard passing, sweep, and escapes and defence for those, so those competitions reverted to a leg locking competition, since the first thing, and only thing, available without passing is the opponent's legs.
Most of the matches were boring stall fest, or staring matches.
Remember Brendan Schaub vs Cyborg Abreu?

Quickly everybody realized that sub only no time limits competitions sucked and were the opposite of what people initially thought.

There is a reason why there are scores in grappling competitions, because that's the best method to see who is really better.
I take you down, pass your guard, mount you, I am better then you, 100%.
You submits me with a flying armbar out nowhere, a leglock out nowhere, hail mary stuff, you proved that you could surprise me with something, but you didn't prove you are better than me.


Regarding Arona.
It isn't about Arona training with Mario Sperry, and Sperry being an old school guy (also Nogueira trained with Sperry and Sperry was damn good by the way, one of the best of his era), is about what you consider ground fighting.

BJJ (on top) is ultimately about taking down the opponent, passing, mounting/back taking submitting, and definitely is BJJ in mma.
Arona did that because that's what he was supposed to do.
If the rules forces me to not do that or do not give me props for that, the rules sucks, in grappling and even more in mma (actually I have no idea why RINGS matches are on professional mma records, at this point they should put Eddie Bravo Combat JiuJitsu in them, it's way more violent).

You see all the jiu jitsu guys in mma, even those who aren't famous to play a fancy game in jiu jitsu, going for the take down, pass, mount.



Every single one of the bjj guys into mma, they are all about the slow, methodical pressure passing into mount/back game, to finish is almost always an arm triangle and rear strangle.

You said you could go for an armbar or a leg lock (!!!!) from mount.
Yes you could, if you are insane or you are fighting a 11 years old or a 80 years old grandpa.

To have an armbar you must have the opponent's arm across the center line, then transition to the armbar without losing control.
This is a great instructional on that topic



But the arm triangle is also there, and is the safer, higher percentage choice all the time.
That's why 100% of the times in mma you see 3 finishes from the mount, the arm triangle, GnP or the opponent turns desperately and get choked.
I bet this is boring for you.

And this is the conclusion, no offense dude, but you have this strange idea that doing a fancy submission is impressive, more advanced and so RINGS guys were more skilled compared to the guys of today, "RINGS from the future".
Doing a leg lock from the mount isn't impressive, is dumb as fuck.
It only works if the guy you are fighting is so much worse than you, that you could do ANYTHING to him.
If you could leglock him from the mount in a mma fight, you could also put him in a gift wrap and removing his nasal hair one by one, ANYTHING.

This is impressive right?


If you could put that Rumina Sato against an opponent from today that is "good" on the ground or even an "old school" guy from the Mario Sperry era, he is getting arm triangle or choked for the back.




TLDR:
- Doing a leg lock, americana, armbar from the mount in mma is dumb as fuck.

- If the rules forces me to do a leg lock, americana, leg lock from the mount, the rules are dumb as fuck.

- Doing a flying armbar, flying leg lock or fancy stuff isn't more impressive or a prove of better skills than winning by taking down the opponent, passing, mounting him and choking him, Demian Maia style.




edit:
So yes
https://i.makeagif.com/media/6-19-2015/lrOMko.mp4

This is Arona being forced by a dumb referee, applying a dumb ruleset, doing a dumb americana from the mount.
Fedor, who isn't dumb, exploded at the right time and got away.
Nothing technical by the way, just timing and explosion.

But this wasn't the point is was making at the beginning when you quoted me.
I wasn't talking about RINGS, it's 2019, I don't give a damn about RINGS, you made me talk about RINGS.
I was saying all Fedor did on his back was bridging and armbars, and the Arona fight was a good example of that.
Without RINGS ruleset Arona would have potentially controlled Fedor on the ground more, that was the point I was making.

Fedor is GOAT, deal with it

 

[gono btw]

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Somebody is obsessed with RINGS?
You aren't knowledgeable, you are autistic.

uhhh... Bublun (with a manga AV by the way > back in the day, those who liked this shit were called 'Otaku' [in Japan], kindah 'autist'... ya knew it, mate?) ... Oh the irony...

Ya´re the one who dropped this Rings topic ITT, mate, not Gono.
Ya´re also the one who tried to be smart with that Volk Han interview (dont worry, Gono´s gonna assess it very soon) ...

Obviously, it fired back...

 

[Bubblun]

Fedor is GOAT, deal with it

Agree, but he isn't half as good as you think he is.

 

[Raziel82]

Lol at another level. Aaah you mean the level has gone down? Agreed. The ufc heavyweight has fighters in the top ten heavyweight that have been in the game for 25 years. It should be called the elderly division, not the heavyweights.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

Guys like Barnett, Herring, Igor, Aleks, Wanderlei, Coleman, etc all pressured Mirko and all of them got destroyed.

By the time of his second run he was clearly on the decline physically, nothing like as fast agile as his best years after a succession of leg injuries.

The Fedor fight was terrible for him. He fought like complete shit. After landing a few nice counters he basically got laid on top of for like 15 minutes. Just about any elite heavyweight wrestler in the UFC could’ve done that to him. Stipe easy. Cain no problem. Hell Cain might knock him out standing. DC walks through him..

 

[Bubblun]

Lol at another level. Aaah you mean the level has gone down? Agreed. The ufc heavyweight has fighters in the top ten heavyweight that have been in the game for 25 years. It should be called the elderly division, not the heavyweights.

Yeah, imagine Fedor, Nogueira and Crocop actually fighting in their early 20ies, still developing, older fighters with actual skills, well rounder, and experienced in mma, instead of a pletora of fighters not having a clue about this new sport, building them up.

A guy like Pavlovitch had to fight an older, experienced Overeem and got his ass whooped, meanwhile the older generation before your heroes were Coleman and Severn, who were let's say "not much skilled", to be nice and not much experienced either.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

The Fedor fight was terrible for him. He fought like complete shit. After landing a few nice counters he basically got laid on top of for like 15 minutes. Just about any elite heavyweight wrestler in the UFC could’ve done that to him. Stipe easy. Cain no problem. Hell Cain might knock him out standing. DC walks through him..

Look at the defence Fedor shows in that fight, he blocks almost all Mirko's mid kicks perfectly and slips his left straight about a dozen times.

Compare that to Wanderlei who tried to pressure Mirko without the same level of defence and timing, couldn't lay a hand on him and got utterly destroyed.

Cain is much closer to Silva than he is Fedor standing IMHO, he's never shown great defence besides exploiting JDS's weakness to pressure, Kongo hurt him several times with straight, Werdum was landing jabs and straight on him at will.

I mean Cain's a dangerous bastard and would have a good shot against any man in his prime but this fight definitely favours Mirko for me.

 

[tozot]

Tonight DC and Stipe put on a striking clinc and proved how much the HW division has come along since 2005 when Fedor and Crocop fought for the title.

Nowadays you don't defend leg kicks, you just take them like a man. If you can't, then you don't deserve to be called a fighter. Fedor countering a leg kick:

Defending liver shots proved how underdeveloped fighters were back then. DC ate about 10 liver shots tonight proving his toughness, while that Fedor dude was so scared he blocked them:

Fedor can't pick-up up his opponent like DC, so he just pushes him:

Outdated combo. Today it's all about the jabs and 1-2's (and accidental eye pokes here and there)

Round 2. If they aren't tired, they aren't trying:

Crocop being elusive. Cool, but slavic men aren't scared of punches these days.
Srsly, why aren't they standing flat footed in front of each other like lions?

Eye pokes > Head kick + punch + TD:

Now here's one gif to rule them all (couldn't find one from tonight, but you get the idea):




Stipe throws an epic 1-2 combo and DC dodges them with world class head movement. DC and Miocic are surely the two most refined strikers the world has ever seen.

Time to leave the nostalgia behind and accept the HW division has evolved tremendously.

Stipe = GOAT, even Rogan agrees.

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Gottta hand it to you: your content matches your profile picture's whole new level...

 

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The difference between those gifs is something else. Funny thread TS.

 

[madafaddah]

Pride was the greatest! ...WAS!!


I get it gentlemen, you loved the pageantry and theatrics, the yellow cards, the screaming lady, and godlike presentations. You prolly downloaded the events on dvds just like the Yukuza fixed a few of them.. illegally. The events seemed perfect on your burnt copy but you may not have realized the actual live events lasted half a day!

Pride made us feel like their fighters were invincible. I thought so too! We were blessed to have lived through and witness PrideFC. Go ahead and memorize all the stats and relive CroCop’s Grand Prix eye poke. Stare at yourself in the mirror like Wandy would and see who blinks first. When you’re done, take a deep breath and please.. let go. It’s time. Sakakibara moves on.. you should to. I did.. 12 years ago!


PS, preaching how great it was day in and day out doesn’t make you “cooler.” Please let it go.


Very respectfully

 

[gono btw]

Let's put it this way, so you can't hide under straw hats.
YOU POST a fight, or a gif or whatever about Fedor doing guard retention, shrimping, sweeping, basically Fedor doing something that isn't an armbar or a bridge reversal, SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE.

Because, I am repeating myself again, Fedor ain't half as good on the ground as nut huggers like yourself claim him to be.

People shit on Derrick Lewis, right?
Then tell me the difference between how Fedor escapes from the ground and what Lewis do.
Give me gifs, or fights obviously, because I feel I am like the only one here that is trying to give proofs meanwhile you Fedor nut huggers are sucking each other's dicks.
.

You can bet I have watched every single Fedor and Minotauro fight over the years, multiple times, but fuck, I don't rewatch those old ass fights every day like yourself.

You say I have nitpicked Fedor in bad spots, unfairly?
Than give me gifs, or full fights of Fedor doing more than bridges and armbars from the ground, I am still waiting.
Give me Fedor doing guard passes, technical sweeps, give me something.
It's easy for you, you watched every single fight, right? You are an encyclopedia of obscure old fights.

The buffoon Claude said I was talking about "isolated events" meanwhile nobody gave me evidence of that.
Fedor doing a double leg in his first fight is an "isolated event", give me Fedor doing more double legs.
I am not the guy that is nit picking here.

I used as evidence every single fight Fedor was on his back, that I can remember, of top of my head.
Arona, Sonnen, Bigfoot, Coleman, Randleman, Nogueira, go check my older posts.
Not many fights Fedor was on his back,
.

"because I feel I am like the only one here that is trying to give proofs"

Ya gottah be kiddin´, right? In my OP, I dropped no less than 10 Gifs (limit) and I could have dropped more, were it not for that limit per post.

Here we go again, 10 more gifs:

> About your narrative: "Arona dominated all the grappling, both standing and on the ground."

This argument was already countered, and ...no rebuttal from ya....[crickets...]
Already dropped 3 gifs > TDs stuffed (see that other post), now the other 3 (Rd 2 & 3)

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Consequently, Arona only outgrappled him in the 1st Rd.

Your technical assessment...kindah inaccurate, wont ya agree, mate?


> Ya claim he "never did guard passes"? Ya serious?

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> Ya claim "he never did double legs" ?

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> "I used as evidence every single fight Fedor was on his back, that I can remember, of top of my head.
Arona, Sonnen, Bigfoot, Coleman, Randleman, Nogueira, go check my older posts."

That´s what Im talkin´ about, mate... Ya only watched since Pride, and in this thread ya´re pretendin´ ya know somethin´ about the 1st part of his career [Rings].
Your only interest in that Arona fight: the controversy (that ya dont even understand) that surrounds it, ya´re completely clueless about all the other fights.

 

[JonsonB]

"...So he just pushes them ...." )))

 

[gono btw]

People shit on Derrick Lewis, right?
Then tell me the difference between how Fedor escapes from the ground and what Lewis do.
Give me gifs, or fights obviously, because I feel I am like the only one here that is trying to give proofs meanwhile you Fedor nut huggers are sucking each other's dicks.





Virtually the same.
That's all athleticism and power.
Fedor is Derrick Lewis on the ground, 30-40 pound lighter, with an armbar.

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> "Fedor is Derrick Lewis on the ground, 30-40 pound lighter, with an armbar."

Well, young, lean Lewis did pull a [sloppy] armbar:

Spoiler: Beast

Damn, mate...unlucky... even current MMA...

> " Reversal: Fedor doing something that isn't an armbar off his back"

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[Bubblun]

"because I feel I am like the only one here that is trying to give proofs"

Ya gottah be kiddin´, right? In my OP, I dropped no less than 10 Gifs (limit) and I could have dropped more, were it not for that limit per post.

Here we go again, 10 more gifs:

> About your narrative: "Arona dominated all the grappling, both standing and on the ground."

This argument was already countered, and ...no rebuttal from ya....[crickets...]
Already dropped 3 gifs > TDs stuffed (see that other post), now the other 3 (Rd 2 & 3)

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Consequently, Arona only outgrappled him in the 1st Rd.

Your technical assessment...kindah inaccurate, wont ya agree, mate?


> Ya claim he "never did guard passes"? Ya serious?

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> Ya claim "he never did double legs" ?

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> "I used as evidence every single fight Fedor was on his back, that I can remember, of top of my head.
Arona, Sonnen, Bigfoot, Coleman, Randleman, Nogueira, go check my older posts."

That´s what Im talkin´ about, mate... Ya only watched since Pride, and in this thread ya´re pretendin´ ya know somethin´ about the 1st part of his career [Rings].
Your only interest in that Arona fight: the controversy (that ya dont even understand) that surrounds it, ya´re completely clueless about all the other fights.

Arona dominated the grappling in every round.
Easy to spin the narrative with 3 gifs, I have re-watched for the 100th time that fight like 2-3 days ago, here it is




Stopping telegraphed double legs when Arona was tired in the last rounds is different than a fresh Arona, who was 33 pounds lighter.
And those were the worse sprawl I have seen, hipping in squared from standing, it was basically power against power and Fedor was heavier.
Not so much impressed with that, maybe you are.


Regarding the guard passing, what the fuck is that?
You could also add the Schilt fight, but the only thing that impresses me in those fights are the lack of skill of Fedor opponents, like beached whale, not Fedor's skills.
Passing a vegetable isn't impressing, Fedor was jumping to the side, kind of torreada style, but really judo style.
That's the guard passing equivalent of Fedor's guard game, just an explosion.
Also Fedor ain't that heavy on top, and by heavy I mean putting pressure.

Are you a Lando Vannata fan, aren't you?
Have you watched Lando last fight? That's a good example of what happens when a good fighter fight someone that "shouldn't be there", to be nice.
Striking, wrestling, ground stuff, amazing performance, too bad you have to consider who you are fighting.
Too bad you don't have the "eyes" to see who is good and who is not.


Regarding Fedor being on his back, you didn't address it, I didn't see it.
I did, multiple times, Fedor on his back has a bridge and an armbar.

About Fedor's doing wrestling leg attacks, you showed me one gif from his first fight.
You gave me so much proof I don't even know what to say (sarcasm).
I mean, that happened 1 time bro.


If you read my first post here, I think I kinda described Fedor's grappling ability.
Great judoka, will all the pros and cons.

The first bjj black belt from Russia was promoted in 2011

"In three years, in summer 2011, I took a trip to the US to train and improve my BJJ there. I spent a month in the US training in a number of BJJ academies and clubs. Gracie Barra Carlos Gracie Irvine and Renzo Gracie Academy New York were my main hosts. During one of the trainings in Renzo Gracie Academy (Roger Gracie, George St. Pierre, Romulo Barral, and John Danaher were present) Renzo took a black belt, beat me against my back with it, then tied it against my waist, and said that Russia got its first BJJ black belt"

https://www.bjjee.com/interview/exc...st-bjj-black-belt-bjj-in-russia-is-expanding/

And this guy ain't from Stary Oskol.

Not Fedor's fault if at that point he had not access to legit world class ground fighting.
He was doing judo, sambo stuff with his judo, sambo guys in Russia.

 

[gono btw]

Arona dominated the grappling in every round.
Easy to spin the narrative with 3 gifs, I have re-watched for the 100th time that fight like 2-3 days ago, here it is




Stopping telegraphed double legs when Arona was tired in the last rounds is different than a fresh Arona, who was 33 pounds lighter.
And those were the worse sprawl I have seen, hipping in squared from standing, it was basically power against power and Fedor was heavier.
Not so much impressed with that, maybe you are.


Regarding the guard passing, what the fuck is that?
You could also add the Schilt fight, but the only thing that impresses me in those fights are the lack of skill of Fedor opponents, like beached whale, not Fedor's skills.
Passing a vegetable isn't impressing, Fedor was jumping to the side, kind of torreada style, but really judo style.
That's the guard passing equivalent of Fedor's guard game, just an explosion.
Also Fedor ain't that heavy on top, and by heavy I mean putting pressure.

Are you a Lando Vannata fan, aren't you?
Have you watched Lando last fight? That's a good example of what happens when a good fighter fight someone that "shouldn't be there", to be nice.
Striking, wrestling, ground stuff, amazing performance, too bad you have to consider who you are fighting.
Too bad you don't have the "eyes" to see who is good and who is not.


Regarding Fedor being on his back, you didn't address it, I didn't see it.
I did, multiple times, Fedor on his back has a bridge and an armbar.

About Fedor's doing wrestling leg attacks, you showed me one gif from his first fight.
You gave me so much proof I don't even know what to say (sarcasm).
I mean, that happened 1 time bro.


If you read my first post here, I think I kinda described Fedor's grappling ability.
Great judoka, will all the pros and cons.

The first bjj black belt from Russia was promoted in 2011

"In three years, in summer 2011, I took a trip to the US to train and improve my BJJ there. I spent a month in the US training in a number of BJJ academies and clubs. Gracie Barra Carlos Gracie Irvine and Renzo Gracie Academy New York were my main hosts. During one of the trainings in Renzo Gracie Academy (Roger Gracie, George St. Pierre, Romulo Barral, and John Danaher were present) Renzo took a black belt, beat me against my back with it, then tied it against my waist, and said that Russia got its first BJJ black belt"

https://www.bjjee.com/interview/exc...st-bjj-black-belt-bjj-in-russia-is-expanding/

And this guy ain't from Stary Oskol.

Not Fedor's fault if at that point he had not access to legit world class ground fighting.
He was doing judo, sambo stuff with his judo, sambo guys in Russia.

> Nah, mate... he didnt outgrapple him in Rd 2 & 3, it´s only in your head. Arona was already gassin´.

Hmmm...yeahh...not really serious, there, right, mate?

> "Regarding Fedor being on his back, you didn't address it, I didn't see it.
I did, multiple times, Fedor on his back has a bridge and an armbar."
: see last post.

Meanwhile, again: ya dont understand Rings´ modus operandi on the ground.
I already explained it to ya, read again & stop repeatin´the same arguments.

> "About Fedor's doing wrestling leg attacks, you showed me one gif from his first fight.
You gave me so much proof I don't even know what to say (sarcasm)."

Indeed, sarcasm...Was not in his 1st fight.. See how clueless ya are, mate?





> "Passing a vegetable isn't impressing, Fedor was jumping to the side, kind of torreada style, but really judo style.
That's the guard passing equivalent of Fedor's guard game, just an explosion.
Also Fedor ain't that heavy on top, and by heavy I mean putting pressure."

Great, great... Please tell us their names within 3 mns, without goin´full google (ya claimed ya did watch all his fights, many times)

 

[Bubblun]

> "Fedor is Derrick Lewis on the ground, 30-40 pound lighter, with an armbar."

Well, young, lean Lewis did pull a [sloppy] armbar:

Spoiler: Beast

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Damn, mate...unlucky... even current MMA...

> " Reversal: Fedor doing something that isn't an armbar off his back"

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That Derrick Lewis stuff is actually the proof that it matter who you are fighting, because it's easy to look good against an opponent that sucks.
Still that armbar sucked and Lewis opponent sucked, I have seen that fight.

That Fedor reversal sucked too, and his opponent sucked also.
There is a reason you don't see that many time in mma, because it's low percentage.
I am not that surprised a high level judoka could hip bump a tomato can, maybe you are.
And again, pure power, a big explosion, Fedor's speciality.

You have a different criteria for evaluating skills.

Maybe to you wasn't impressing Rodolfo Viera taking down, shutting down, passing, mounting, choking his opponent during his last fight.
Nothing flashy, kinda boring compared to RINGS stuff right?
But his opponent was a ADCC trial winner, a longtime competitive grappler and an experienced mma fighter, to put things in perspective.

 

[ralek4grammy]

TS: "Boom, roasted!" (And he's right.)