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Social GoldenWolf's COVID Vaccine/Lockdown Protest megathread Vol. 2

This is what I mean about your side, divert , attack the source, format or person yet usually lack anything to back this up.
I.e. You said substack is for junk science and I said some of the best scientists in the world all run pages on there and do you have anything to back this up. Your answer.... divert

I supply plenty of studies etc between blogs from people educated enough to give an informed opinion on the subject.
This is what I mean about your side.

Why the fuck does COVID-19 even have a side, hm?

Who do you think is responsible for politicizing this in the first place? I don't have any political stake in measures taken or not taken to combat the spread of the virus. I think everyone who does is a fucking idiot, and it's got nothing to do with which side they belong to.

The fact that you assume I do says everything I need to know about the value of your contributions on this topic. Your personal attacks on me notwithstanding, let's see the data and scientific backing for whatever claim you're making this time. That's all I ever ask regarding claims of a medical nature. Anecdotes are truly worthless for settling the validity of such claims. They can suggest, lead toward a direction of inquiry, and the like, but that's all. My buddy who was told by his doctor about this and that is not science. Some youtube rando with his own website is not science. All I ever see when these youtube videos and the like are posted is people trying to monetize bullshit and I'm not helping make them money by giving them clicks. The fact they're saying it out loud rather than writing it and posting here on this forum doesn't make it more accurate information. If what they're saying has scientific validity post the original source of the data and I will look at it. No more, no less.

Regarding the part of our exchange where you said "and I said some of the best scientists in the world all run pages on there and do you have anything to back this up..."

You said,
"You're definitely on a spectrum, that dig was for you to actually supply something and this was you supplying something to substantiate your statement?

Lol substack is misinformation, sure, everything is potentially. Its strange that so many top experts in their fields use the platform.

As I said, intellectual dishonest"

And I said,
"I'm not making the claims on page after page ITT. You are. So how about no youtube randos or other useless as fuck anecdotes; let's see evidence ITT backing up all this CT bullshit for a change, do you mind?

Else, I repeat yet again, you can assert something with no evidence I likewise dismiss it without evidence. Happy Monday."


Read it again and think about it for a minute, then tell me who is dishonest. Wait, no, I don't have time for that. I will explain.

1. I responded to your lame insult in a direct manner. It's not for me to substantiate your claims with evidence; that's on you. As far as I'm concerned, that's the end of the discussion until you do; but you keep inserting strawmen and irrelevancies into the exchange to keep it going for some dumb reason I can't understand.

Quit shilling for people monetizing what should be freely available information; post the original source data, and then we can have a reasonable discussion about what we and others think it means.

2. The second paragraph is pure sophistry. If you really need why that is so explained to you, we can start with some good doesn't mean there is no bad. But it's also irrelevant. I called it "misinformation made easy". If you want to have another go at finding an inaccuracy in that self-evident description, be my guest.

3. That you constantly resort to insults, dodges, and logical fallacies, as cover for the lack of basic sources of data to support your claims is what is intellectually dishonest. I have explained this to you multiple times yet we always wind up right back here.

One last time, say it with me,

THAT WHICH CAN BE ASSERTED WITHOUT EVIDENCE CAN BE DISMISSED WITHOUT EVIDENCE.

I will not give youtube randos any fucking clicks.

Edit:
tl;dr
Politicizing COVID is dumb so attributing anything I say to "my side" is also dumb. Calling others intellectually dishonest while resorting to sophistry and unsubstantiated claims to score COVID CT points is equally dumb.

The end.
 
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More like he was just acting like a twat like usual. His immature dumbass replies will see to it that he's always antagonising someone, be it a mod or a standard poster on these forums.
His intention is to just keep sliding threads with 1-liner spam so no conversation takes place, derail. I hope that's what he got yellows for since that means his whole setup is neutered from now on, but I don't think that's the reason so he's just biding his time for now.
 
His intention is to just keep sliding threads with 1-liner spam so no conversation takes place, derail. I hope that's what he got yellows for since that means his whole setup is neutered from now on, but I don't think that's the reason so he's just biding his time for now.

Yep he just talks shit while sitting there smirking to himself about how he never actually engages in any debate but makes unfounded stupid claims that simply suit his nonsense. And like you say, he just tries to shut down conversations. If the website employed a retard to get rid of subjects they don't want to see on their boards and goad people into saying stuff that might get them banned, he is exactly how I'd imagine them to be. Plus, his wokeness would suit a career in the media or politics, but that would mean he has to move out of his parents basement.
 
THAT WHICH CAN BE ASSERTED WITHOUT EVIDENCE CAN BE DISMISSED WITHOUT EVIDENCE.

Thats the only thing I agree with you on, waffling isn't my style.


"Anecdotes are truly worthless for settling the validity of such claims."

Yet in a court of law its called a witness

"They can suggest, lead toward a direction of inquiry, and the like, but that's all"

"While this is correct to a degree its a matter of scale, timing and credibility."

I.e. a substack article written by an expert in the field who also gives the link to the paper/study his analysis is based is valid.

The rest is waffling garbage
 
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Local government.
How is it walking/driving to work every day after years? Good, right? Is this where you met your girl/boyfriend? Great news. Massive confidence boost for you.
 
Well.... fuck hey.
I'd say I'm surprised... but I'm sadly not

https://www.news.com.au/world/coron...n/news-story/df50001366bb09b6a20421520cbfbf53

Serious holes have been poked in the world’s response to the pandemic, with Sweden emerging atop a telling list of nations least affected by Covid-19.

In a list of countries studied by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, the Scandinavian nation ranked lowest for overall cumulative excess deaths from 2020-22 at 6.8 per cent, compared to Australia (18 per cent), the UK (24.5 per cent) and the US (54.1 per cent).

The results are even more poignant considering Sweden was one of the few developed nations that opted against widespread lockdowns.



Officials were repeatedly warned against lockdowns

Health officials have been criticised for ignoring the widespread effects lockdowns can have on mental health, citing troubling data from some of the world’s most locked-down cities, including Melbourne.

Documents released in 2021 showed Victoria’s Mental Health Minister was warned about the run-on effects of widespread lockdowns in a two-page ministerial briefing note, which also alerted him to a rise in youth self-harm incidents, hospital presentations and suicidal ideation.

The measures were followed by police officials urging the public to tip them off about “illegal” family gatherings and household visits. Some states, including Western Australia, proudly employed camera drones to scale public areas for those breaching their hourly quota of outdoor time.

There is a full inquiry underway into Australia’s response to Covid, with an independent review being funded by three major philanthropic organisations and headed by Western Sydney University chancellor Peter Shergold.

“Schools should have stayed open,” the almost 100-page report found.

“It was wrong to close entire school systems, particularly once new information indicated that schools were not high-transmission environments”.

The report found school closures were “likely to have significant adverse impacts on children’s outcomes in education, social development and mental and physical health”.

“For children and parents (particularly women), we failed to get the balance right between protecting health and imposing long-term costs on education, mental health, the economy and workforce outcomes.”

The report found lockdowns and border closures — among restrictions and overreaching provisions — were effectively inhumane and should only have ever been used as a “last resort”.

“Rules were too often formulated and enforced in ways that lacked fairness and compassion. Such overreach undermined public trust and confidence in the institutions that are vital to effective crisis response,” it read
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It's hilarious though that these 'excess death' figures are not actually a count or a calculation. It's purely an estimate based on many assumptions. One of the assumptions is that there is/was a pandemic. But then when you look into it, the pandemic relies on the excess death figure being high so it can be called a pandemic. After all, all the normies and media feeders will point gleefully to the excess deaths going up massively, which can only be explained by covid/pandemic.
But am I being unreasonable in stating that you cannot say there's a pandemic because just look at the excess deaths, but then when asked to explain where that number comes from and how it was worked out, the answer is that it's an estimate based on the assumption that the pandemic is real and killing people.
For the simpleton normies out there (that twat with the gay as fuck av who just goes round annoying everyone on here but is carded now so staying away) that is called circular reasoning, and it's retarded.
 
This is study is a favorite among the grifters. It's only looking at long term myocarditis 10 days after covid infection. All the other studies that show there is an increase in myocarditis from covid infection are looking at myocarditis shortly after infection while the person still had covid.

This is right from the antivax/conspiratard playbook. Look for one study that confirms what you want to believe and ignore all the other evidence.

How about you post your study alongside the sources for its funding? I bet the studies I provide have larger sample sizes, are higher quality data and with less conflicts of interest than those you can cite.

I swear this thread really brings out the "I don't care what data you provide, I just disagree for no reason" crowd.

If you disagree, thats fine, but don't discount the data I provide without larger studies, higher quality data or more up-to-date data; it's a bad look.
 
Thats the only thing I agree with you on, waffling isn't my style.


"Anecdotes are truly worthless for settling the validity of such claims."

Yet in a court of law its called a witness

"They can suggest, lead toward a direction of inquiry, and the like, but that's all"

"While this is correct to a degree its a matter of scale, timing and credibility."

I.e. a substack article written by an expert in the field who also gives the link to the paper/study his analysis is based is vaid.

The rest is waffling garbage
Look up the term false equivalency then slap yourself.

Have a second go at swatting your own nose for making me ask you this simple question a fourth time; if there is "a link to the paper/study his analysis is based is vaid (sic)" then why don't you post the goddamn link, you silly git?
 
Look up the term false equivalency then slap yourself.

Have a second go at swatting nose for making me ask you this simple question a fourth time; if there is "a link to the paper/study his analysis is based is vaid (sic)" then why don't you post the goddamn link, you fucking ignorant git?

Mandy, dirty words on the computer are not allowed, let’s take a 5 minute time out….
Git….wtf

<JagsKiddingMe>
 
How is it walking/driving to work every day after years? Good, right? Is this where you met your girl/boyfriend? Great news. Massive confidence boost for you.

Yes, I needed time to heal to a point where it was a possible.
No.
I always had confidence in my future.
 
Look up the term false equivalency then slap yourself.

Have a second go at swatting your own nose for making me ask you this simple question a fourth time; if there is "a link to the paper/study his analysis is based is vaid (sic)" then why don't you post the goddamn link, you silly git?

Because if i was to do so

1- I'm not giving credit wheres its due

And
2 You would say I'm not qualified to have an opinion.

Pretty simple reasoning tbh....
 
This is what I mean about your side, divert , attack the source, format or person yet usually lack anything to back this up.
I.e. You said substack is for junk science and I said some of the best scientists in the world all run pages on there and do you have anything to back this up. Your answer.... divert

I supply plenty of studies etc between blogs from people educated enough to give an informed opinion on the subject.

They don't actually care about science. They care about "THE science", aka whatever the pharma-funded media tells them.
 
Thankful this isn't like a couple of years ago with Covid. And they're only doing it because it's possibly an issue being there's quite a few cases and beds are filling up. Always good to take precautions just in case.

Any docs/nurses here experiencing it in the bay?
https://abc7news.com/bay-area-hospi...l-tents-rsv-cases-surge-in-kids-flu/12482986/

Maybe if they hadn't kept children locked up for so long they would have been exposed to the normal course of germs and not be in this situation.

Nobody wants to talk about how well Sweden is doing despite not locking down or having any ridiculous, arbitrary mandates.
 
Yes, I needed time to heal to a point where it was a possible.
No.
I always had confidence in my future.
That's wicked. Hope your kids like her and that's all lovely, sod the ex woman.
 

At that time, almost 90% of those who had died with COVID in Sweden were 70 or older. Half of these people were living in a care home, and just under 30% were receiving home help services.


Ummm.

This is pretty close to the % of deaths by age group in Australia.
84 % of the deaths are in the 70s and up category for covid.

Except unlike swedes they were isolated and alone from their loved ones.

And unlike Australians

The decision to keep primary schools open also paid off. The incidence of severe acute COVID in children has been low, and a recent study showed that Swedish children didn’t suffer the learning loss seen in many other countries.

Also as you pointed out flue and RSV is going rampant affecting chdren far more in certain nations.. not Sweden.

Also...

In its final report on the pandemic response, the Corona Commission concluded that tougher measures should have been taken early in the pandemic, such as quarantine for those returning from high-risk areas and a temporary ban on entry to Sweden.

Ummm.. how do I know more than this article?

After more than two years, Sweden has finally announced it will remove the entry ban on non-essential travel from third countries, starting from April 1.

As part of the continuing work to phase out the infection control measures against COVID-19, the government today decided to lift all restrictions on entry to Sweden from the Nordic countries and other EU and EEA countries,” the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Justice said in a joint press release issued at the time.


Yes Sweden suffered far more covid deaths than Australia... but at this point they have a faaaarrr lower excess mortality rate than the rest of the world... so the proof is in the pudding as they say
 
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