Giving Conor no chance is insane

[Snowy1]

I give Conor a 15% chance purely because apart from somehow knocking Nate out he has no other paths to victory that I can think of

 

[Zerfleischer]

I honestly don't know what people saw. Nate was in control the whole time. Conor landed some shots, but Nate was never in danger at all and he also landed on Conor.

I hate when people simply count shots like mathematics, you have to be able to see the momentum of the fight and that never was in Conors favor.

 

[legedema]

He absolutely lit up Nate that first round and that was the slowest, unsharpest Conor we've ever seen. Nates face reminded me of Gsp after one of his decision wins. At least twice i remember Nate taking a shot and looking like he was on the edge of "rocked"

Conor, you have to agree is one the smarter guys in this game and although both Diaz brothers are warriors, they are no puzzle.

People seem completely oblivious to the fact that when you put on size like that, it takes time to adjust to and Conor this time will have had ample time come July.

Not an McG fanboy by no means, I just think its ridiculous to count him out of this fight, with all due respect to Nate.

U said he was the slowest but why did he gassed ?

 

[Fighting Gaming]

If Conor is one of the smarter fighters as you say then why wouldn't he use the tried & tested blueprint to beat Nate, chop away at that lead leg and just strike to point fight with him.

Watched the fight again over the weekend. When Conor was resting at the end of the first, hes coach told him to attack the legs you can hear him clearly say it!

Conor did hes own thing though in the second? He got great advice but never listened? Conor ego got the better of him him losing this fight surely will wake him up to the fact you can't knock out everyone in 1 or 2 rounds.

 

[VirginNose]

Nuthuggery aside, if you are being honest with yourself, how will Conor beat him?

Is he going to outpoint a cardio machine over 5 rounds? Nope
Is he going to KO him? Nope
Is he going to submit him? Lol fuck no!

So how does he win?

PS:

If you think 5-6 punches difference is "absolutely lit up" then I have some bad news for you

This so much. Im a Diaz fan so I watched the fight form the Diaz perspective, I thought he did pretty well in that 1st round. The shot that cut him open didnt even land clean. All the casual fight fans automatically think when someone starts bleeding that he is getting fucked up. They almost landed equally in that 1st round as the stats show but Mcg did throw the harder shots, as everyone expected...

 

[NoneChuck]

Nate was on a yacht in Cabo, sick from mexican water drinkin tequila shots!! And with only 11 days notice and no sparring he fucked up Conor,
what do you think a full camp Diaz would do to him?

Diaz is a warrior who likes to stand and bang but if he wants to get this win quick i suggest he will take him down and get the sub, fast.

But i think Nate is going to toy with the young boy and gonna show him some new tricks etc


Diaz all day everyday

 

[Check Hook]

Nate was on a yacht in Cabo, sick from mexican water drinkin tequila shots!! And with only 11 days notice and no sparring he fucked up Conor,
what do you think a full camp Diaz would do to him?

Diaz is a warrior who likes to stand and bang but if he wants to get this win quick i suggest he will take him down and get the sub, fast.

But i think Nate is going to toy with the young boy and gonna show him some new tricks etc


Diaz all day everyday

He was training for a triathlon. He also said he always stays in shape. Given the number of injuries in the run up to major UFC fights in recent times, I'd be very surprised if most fighters don't have one eye on the fact that they may get a call up.

Not claiming that Diaz didn't have a disadvantage due to the short time he had to prepare - but I do think it's overstated.

 

[Bjjpitbull8]

Umm.. source on Nate having done so much sparring? Because I have a source and a quote from him saying the exact opposite:

“I felt like obviously I was going to have a slow start,” Diaz said. “I didn’t have a camp so I knew I would start slow, warm up and pick up as I go. I didn’t have no sparring, so I think I (expletive) should have dodged those punches a little better, but I had a slow start and I knew it.”

http://mmajunkie.com/2016/03/nate-d...o-role-in-ufc-196-victory-over-conor-mcgregor

Love it. Nate fans prove it Conor fans speak in delusion

 

[BennyST]

He absolutely lit up Nate that first round and that was the slowest, unsharpest Conor we've ever seen. Nates face reminded me of Gsp after one of his decision wins. At least twice i remember Nate taking a shot and looking like he was on the edge of "rocked"

Conor, you have to agree is one the smarter guys in this game and although both Diaz brothers are warriors, they are no puzzle.

People seem completely oblivious to the fact that when you put on size like that, it takes time to adjust to and Conor this time will have had ample time come July.

Not an McG fanboy by no means, I just think its ridiculous to count him out of this fight, with all due respect to Nate.

I'm not counting him out either, but the majority of stuff there is just wrong.

He didnt put on size! FFS. He just didnt take any off like usual. That's all. That's his fight ready training weight. He trains that weight 99% of the time leading up to a fight and would be more comfortable at that weight than anywhere else. That's the weight he trains at every single day leading up to a fight. He just fought someone else who also trains at that weight and is the same size. All that happened is that instead of going through the final week losing weight, they didnt. No more, no less. Conor didnt put on an ounce of size. He just didnt skeletanize himself.

As for his supposed lack of sharpness, that's rubbish too. Nate didnt look sharp. Conor looked fantastic and very on point, until things started getting tough. That's it. It was only from that point on that he 'didn't look sharp'. Conor had a great, full camp training for his biggest, hardest fight ever. Nate came in at the last minute from vacation, and you're saying that Conor wasn't the sharp one...?

What happens when Conor comes in exactly the same, with the same full training camp as he had, same weight that he was, same everything that he did, but faces a Diaz that has a full camp, will be sharper, faster, stronger and have the confidence of already coming in on only 12 days notice and beating a fully trained McG in two rounds?

It sounds like you're saying Nate is the one with the full camp and Conor wasn't and that Conor will have these drastic changes whereas Nate won't change at all.

 

[IntelligenceQuo]

He absolutely lit up Nate that first round and that was the slowest, unsharpest Conor we've ever seen. Nates face reminded me of Gsp after one of his decision wins. At least twice i remember Nate taking a shot and looking like he was on the edge of "rocked"

Conor, you have to agree is one the smarter guys in this game and although both Diaz brothers are warriors, they are no puzzle.

People seem completely oblivious to the fact that when you put on size like that, it takes time to adjust to and Conor this time will have had ample time come July.

Not an McG fanboy by no means, I just think its ridiculous to count him out of this fight, with all due respect to Nate.

Well, all you cloner huggers gave nate no chance in the first fight. Turn about is fair play, no?

 

[Ryan McGizzle]

1-First time weve ever seen him gas out, first time he fights at that weight.
2-He was already shot when he went for that shot.
3-Its called mind-games.
4-He does use a jab actually quite effectively, stop having such a short memory.

These are all valid excuses why he lost, they just don't support why you believe he's a smart fighter. I believe he's very intelligent outside of the ring but believe his ring IQ is fairly average.

 

[Biblical]

I give him 1% chance...

Nate Diaz gets a cut and they stop the fight.


That will be corruption at it's finest.

 

[Spookv]

"We'll see the next time"

Conor clearly was going for the KO right from the beginning with those sloppy overhands. He'll be his technical, precise self this time around. He has the kicks in his arsenal, just ask Firas Zahabi.

He has flashy spinning kicks, but when it comes to technical MT/KB low kicks it's lacking. He got taken down by throwing kicks.

 

[NoneChuck]

He was training for a triathlon.

Not claiming that Diaz didn't have a disadvantage due to the short time he had to prepare - but I do think it's overstated

Uhmm. No he wasnt training for a triathlon, give me one piece of evidence and i don't mean Dana White or Joe Rogan saying that.

Look at Nate instagram before the fight, does that look like he training for a triathlon?

Dude was on vacation let it go already.

And roflmfao at you saying overstated, they hyped Conor up as the next best thing since Andy Wang and it took a str8 off the yacht , mexican water sick, tequila sippin holiday enjoying Nate Diaz with 11 days notice to dethrone Conor and you know it.

 

[IMSAYIN]

3rd, and 4th words in OP... lit up.
Stopped reading there. Because imo, if a 5 punch difference between two fighters means one was lit up, and the other wasn't. I don't put alot of faith into anything else written.

 

[megaton]

Diaz, practically got off the couch and was able to beat him. Training for a triathlon (if that was in fact what he was doing) is not the same as training for a fight. You don't spar and practice technical drills for a triathlon. Diaz himself said it the best, hes a fighter at heart and is always ready to go no matter what, were Conor seems more like a exhibitionist. He looks great when hes in control, but the moment things go a little sour he breaks. That's the issue here, Conor is to used to being in control so when things go downhill he is unsure of what to do. With the Mendes fight he got lucky that Chad gassed after 2 rounds so staying in control was still easy, with Nate not so much. It seems in MMA you can't train heart like you can the body. The heart and grit it takes to take shots like Nate did and keep on fighting comes from years of battling in the ring, not speaking into a microphone.

 

[Paynebringer]

At least twice i remember Nate taking a shot and looking like he was on the edge of "rocked"

Conor, you have to agree is one the smarter guys in this game and although both Diaz brothers are warriors, they are no puzzle.

How does someone look like they on the edge of being rocked, almost staggered but didn't? Either you get rocked, wobbled, stunned, etc. I don't think I've ever seen someone on the edge of rocked.

Conor feels he's the smarter man in the cage he probably saw Nate and thought he could out class & think him, he was dead wrong Conor is still green in this sport despite his success Nate is a vet a this sport and showed against the Irish green Conor.

 

[fightdonttweet]

He has a chance for sure.

But you also have to factor in that this was a NO CAMP Diaz he fought in the first fight, and McGregor hit him with everything he had, and could not stop, or even slow him down.

Now, imagine Diaz with a full TEN WEEK camp.

I feel like Nate is going to approach the fight the same way, even with a full camp. Its Conor who is going to have the opportunity to train specifically for Nate now. He knows what worked and what didn't. Its on him to make adjustments.

 

[Reaperman]

Obviously he has a chance, it's just that the probability of him winning seems extremely small to me. I mean Diaz won that fight pretty easily. Connor hit him with everything he had, and Diaz didn't blink. Diaz also figured Connor out extremely fast in real time, and he immediately took control. Now Diaz gets a full camp, sparring with incredibly high level strikers, and Connor is gonna play touch butt at the park.......haha

 

[Azure]

Conor's hype train is circling the drain..Drawing closer and closer to the center and obscurity.