Giving Conor no chance is insane

[Helden]

No nuthuggery here i assure you. I think Conor goes for the kill within 3 rounds. He does what he always does, outside of last fight, which is snipe his prey. This time with just more measure and Nate is not above being rocked or put away.

He did light him up. Just because they had similar "punches landed" numbers doesnt mean their punches had the same effect. Nate was visibly a mess, Conor was almost as clean as before the fight began. How many times have you seen Nate look that busted up btw?

This is such a load of shit.. Visibly means fuck all, especially when it comes to Nate Diaz who has so much scar tissue on his face that he bleeds if you accidentally brush past his face

All around the same location too.. its almost as if Nate has a ton of scar tissue that makes those areas vulnerable to cuts??

Look, nearly every goddamn fight where his opponent lands some good shots on his face, Nate gets cut open

 

[Rygu]

Of course he has a chance. He hits hard and Nate can't take clean shots forever. Nate having a real camp to spar this time makes Conor a definite underdog though.

 

[Helden]

Fight metrics are notorious for not being accurate. Especially when in noting the types of punches landed. A big straight left of conor's compared to a jab by nate are not the same thing. Conor landed the far heavier punches. Did they give nate credit for a punch that was slipped by conor??

I dont know, did they?

Fightmetric is far more accurate than fanboy interpretations of the fight though

 

[Shapky86]

The only thing ridiculous is everyone still discussing the fight.conor got his ass whooped.life rolls on

 

[Dutchman101]

Of course Conor has a change, with a better trainings camp he can prepare him better. On top of that, he learned from this fight and know where he has to work on.
But i have the feeling, that Diaz will win again. Also Nate can prepare and learned from that fight.
Diaz has still his legit bjj, conor can't learn that in the coming months, at least not at that level.
The striking of Conor looked good in the first, but the second, he was beat up on the feet, so Diaz can compete with Conor his striking.

 

[Pure Dust]

Nate, camp or not, almost always gets hit.

How am I exaggerating? Nates facial expressions and tensing up after some of those shots says it all. He can try to brush it off with all that post-fight bravado but Conor checked him.

There were a few good shots in the first round... But Nate did not get lit up like Conor fans would make you believe. He was rolling with a lot of those punches and nothing surprised him. Nate always bleeds, he has a lot of scar tissue.

 

[NotaNutHugger]

Fight metrics are notorious for not being accurate. Especially when in noting the types of punches landed. A big straight left of conor's compared to a jab by nate are not the same thing. Conor landed the far heavier punches. Did they give nate credit for a punch that was slipped by conor??

Who cares? Nate took the harder punches and kept on rolling. Conor took a stiff one to the chin and got the jimmy legs. It doesn't matter if Conor hit Nate hard...he didn't KO him. Nate rocked Conor so bad that Conor became what he calls other people he's fought, a panic wrestler.

That said, of course Conor has a chance...it's a fight. He's going to do what he says is not necessary, which is to train for a particular fighter. Remember when he said that he doesn't do that and all of his opponents are just blank faces or some such shit?

I still believe that Nate will win the rematch.

 

[Ceez]

All he said was that he didnt get any rounds in and thats why he had the slow start but that doesnt mean he wasnt in fight shape. That could actually mean that he was fresher than he would have otherwise been and it also may have been what allowed to him to absorb those shots so well.

Word for word..."Uhh no I knew it was going to be a slow start for me because you know I'm always in shape, but uh..if I'm not in the best shape I've got to start slow and pick up as I go. So I kind of expected it to go like it did, I expected to dodge and slip a little more I didn't have a lot of sparring for this camp. If I had a full camp I don't think I would have been touched but he had some good punches and landed some so good on his part."

He says he wasn't in the best shape and that he had to start slow to compensate for it. Being on a boat drinking shots of tequila 11 days before a fight anyways should be a huge clue that he's not in fight shape. It's one thing to be in shape and a completely different thing to be in fight shape. 2 totally different animals that can in no way be compared.

 

[Wise1]

Conor is one of the smarter fighters eh?

1-Then why does he throw those wasteful kicks and gas himself out?
2-Why would he shoot on a BJJ black belt with slick submission skills?
3-Why would he keep his hands by his waist against a crisp boxer?
4-Why doesn't he use a jab?

1-First time weve ever seen him gas out, first time he fights at that weight.
2-He was already shot when he went for that shot.
3-Its called mind-games.
4-He does use a jab actually quite effectively, stop having such a short memory.

 

[changospank]

only Idiots think in absolutes. in the first fight i hoped Nate choked him out. i thought if Nate survived the first round he would submit him in the third. I hope the Nate that fought Michael Johnson shows up next time he fights, whoever it is. Conor has a real chance at winning. he would have to leg kick Nate for a round or two and then take him down and punish him for a decision. Conor could cut Nate again and this time the fight gets stopped. or Nate walks into hard left. but the truth is Conor could not withstand Nate's pace... lets just go back one fight before with Johnshon. Michael Johnson at 155 went the distance, withstood full camp Diaz for 3 rounds. what we saw was Conor training for 5 rounds against RDA. imagine what RDA would have done to him... think about that. even one takedown from RDA and Conor would have been dominated.

now the real question is what can Conor do to change the outcome of the rematch?

1. leg kicks leg kicks leg kicks
2.leg kicks
3. cardio
4. leg kicks
5. wrasslin.

Conor is not gonna sit around for this fight either. he will be training like a mad man. touchbutt will be ramped up to ludicrous speed. lets just let them fight and stop with the ball sucking.

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

he has a chance until hes gets choked the hell out

 

[catnap]

McGregors still on learning curve but he has a 'Cleaners' mindset. I don't think he can be written off yet.

 

[Bjjpitbull8]

Nuthuggery aside, if you are being honest with yourself, how will Conor beat him?

Is he going to outpoint a cardio machine over 5 rounds? Nope
Is he going to KO him? Nope
Is he going to submit him? Lol fuck no!

So how does he win?

PS:

If you think 5-6 punches difference is "absolutely lit up" then I have some bad news for you

Exactly he landed 5 more punches and threw 17 more in round 1 and from that point forward he got totally out stuck and beaten in every facet.

He has the same punchers chance that anyone has in a fight, but it is insane to think he can win this fight aside from that.

It's really sad that people have to keep making these threads trying to convince others that a grown man they worship will prevail after having his ass handed to him and embarrassing these fans and himself due to his lack of respect for other fighters before this derailing.

 

[yeguiza]

He absolutely lit up Nate that first round and that was the slowest, unsharpest Conor we've ever seen. Nates face reminded me of Gsp after one of his decision wins. At least twice i remember Nate taking a shot and looking like he was on the edge of "rocked"

Conor, you have to agree is one the smarter guys in this game and although both Diaz brothers are warriors, they are no puzzle.

People seem completely oblivious to the fact that when you put on size like that, it takes time to adjust to and Conor this time will have had ample time come July.

Not an McG fanboy by no means, I just think its ridiculous to count him out of this fight, with all due respect to Nate.

educate yourself before posting

first step go google "red fiber muscle" and "white fiber muscle"

he´d need like 2 years (maybe 1 year for PED users) to rebuild a cardio efficient body (plus he´d lose great part of his speed and KO power)

Shitty thread

 

[Deleted member 502383]

I'm interested in what Conor can do when not headhunting. If he displays a little more "fight IQ" it's a very winnable fight. Mix it up, beat him up and let the outcome unfold organically and Conor is back on track.

 

[Fighting Gaming]

I'm a Conor fan and i think its not an easy fight for one reason only that chin of Nates? Nate boxing is not superior thats laughable considering who landed the bigger shots for most of the fight. But, that chin makes this fight a bad one for Conor.

How he win knowing he likely can't stop him? Nate is just luckily he has that chin this fight be over quick.

Conor has not got the strength to beat Diaz from what we saw in the first fight. Can he kicks those legs more to win and disturb Nates boxing?

Nate is just a bad fighting style wise for Conor. I think he style matches better with lawler and RDA

 

[Just Creed]

Just like how folk counted Nate out i suppose

 

[Canelo]

Nate always starts slow with his boxing, especially fighting another good boxer, camp or no camp. Marcus Davis punched the piss out of him in their first round and Nate looked sloppy as hell in the first round of the MJ fight. He relies on his opponent slowing down.

Nate said he had more sparring in those 11 days than most fighters do in an entire camp. When your in shape all year round and are a veteran fighter, 11 days of sparring is still going to be very useful to you.

 

[Helden]

Nate always starts slow with his boxing, especially fighting another good boxer, camp or no camp. Marcus Davis punched the piss out of him in their first round and Nate looked sloppy as hell in the first round of the MJ fight. He relies on his opponent slowing down.

Nate said he had more sparring in those 11 days than most fighters do in an entire camp. When your in shape all year round and are a veteran fighter, 11 days of sparring is still going to be very useful to you.

Umm.. source on Nate having done so much sparring? Because I have a source and a quote from him saying the exact opposite:

“I felt like obviously I was going to have a slow start,” Diaz said. “I didn’t have a camp so I knew I would start slow, warm up and pick up as I go. I didn’t have no sparring, so I think I (expletive) should have dodged those punches a little better, but I had a slow start and I knew it.”

http://mmajunkie.com/2016/03/nate-d...o-role-in-ufc-196-victory-over-conor-mcgregor

 

[TheLuckiest]

If there is no way Conor wins, then I better see a Cabo yacht load of betting slips with money from a second mortgage you put on your house, otherwise you're talking a bunch of nonsense.