News Gillispie vs Lee Official, 244.

usadaguy said:
Gillespie striking is not any better mate.
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Didn't say it was. He's the one that called Lee a "complete" fighter which is hilarious. At least Gregor has notable power in his hands
 
Just don't see Lee overcoming Gillespie's pace. Late TKO or decision for Gregor
 
This is the fight that will tell us a lot about Gregor. Can he beat a top 5 level fighter? Is he a top LW himself? How will he do vs a top level wrestler? Which leads to see how he will do vs Khabib and build that fight if he is able to win.

I am excited
 
ExitLUPin said:
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...utely-destroy-max-holloway-with-ease.3785923/

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/think-dc-is-gonna-win-a-close-decision-this-time-around.3998547/

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/kevin-bruce-lee-will-be-the-man-to-dethrone-marty-usman.3940131/

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/khabib-is-pretty-overrated-atm.3811503/

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/yushin-okami-is-gonna-pull-the-upset.3626643/

Lol stfu Mr. Shortsighted{<jordan}
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At least half of the threads I make under the context of " so and so is gonna destroy ___ with ease" are basically shit posts. They're to get a rise and stir the pot mostly, I get in those moods pre fight and they're entertaining to me. Should be pretty obvious as well

When I break things down for real, I almost always play devils advocate and acknowledge both sides of the equation. Almost never speak definitively and am open to all possibilities. The Ortega thread for example, if you look up my posts leading into the fight I went pretty much in the exact opposite direction with many posts

The DC thread was pretty on point, pretty much acknowledged that stipe isn't to b slept on and he can absolutely win the fight and if DC wins this time, it will be down the stretch. Which is pretty much exactly how it went down

The Khabib thread was worded poorly, particularly the title but the premise was just that Khabib hadn't really Been tested against the truly elite of the division and that maybe we should hold our tongue a bit before proclaiming him to be this unstoppable force. Given his level of competition at that point, I think it was fair. The same logic could be applied to any other fighter as well. Khabib has obviously now solidifed himself as one of the best lw's ever. Honestly I'll admit I wasn't sure about khabib's claim to the lw throne at that time. I seen a lot of holes in his game both on the feet and his approach to getting the takedown. He obviously has an amazing team because his game has become tighter in all aspects and those holes are now near nonexistent. At the time I think think some skepticism was reasonable but he has definitely silenced any criticism. Even Kevin Lee showed that love and he had a similar sort of skepticism towards Khabib for a long time. It's clear now that Khabib has always been for real but he's also come a long way in the last few years


Apologize for the long winded post, all that said though, don't take those threads too seriously. if I'm being real it's never a one liner
 
ExitLUPin said:
He doesn't have a good jab at all. Anyone with a good jab doesn't struggle to maintain the distance against Iaquinta like he did. Even Khabib was lighting him up on the feet with his jab. His right is mediocre as well, his technique is terrible on them. He has decent low kicks that's about it



Barboza always gets outstruck be fighters with a strong wrestling pressure game. This was true back when varner knocked him out and still is. RDA and Tony both outstruck him. Tony is a slow starter, he was piecing him up for most of the fight before his desperation set in



This is mostly hogwash. He had some moments early but there were so few with how much he was looking to wrestle it isn't worth mentioning. In the prolonged sequences on the feet he was getting touched up bad.

He has decent leg kicks. That's about it. His boxing is very mediocre at best
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greatbody kicks as well

I'm not proclaiming him to be some world beater. It's all relative. They're mma fighters. If you wanna get technical Tony's boxing is mediocre at best as well, same with Khabib outside of his jab.

But I think his hands are better than he gets credit for. He comes off like a bit of a spazz though, seems like he's overthinking everything, rushing a lot. If he can adopt some patience, calm and more calculation in his approach, I think he's got the foundation for some good boxing. i think not having a head coach plays a factor in what's seemed like poor fight on the feet, transitions between arts and energy management.

You should watch those fights again though, he was getting the better of Tony on the feet In the first half of the fight. He was outstriking RDA for good bit as well, the Al fight was relatively close on the feet for the first 3 rounds. All that is true and although he obviously has things to work on, it shows he's doing some things right

Saying he has no striking is objectively and verifiably untrue
 
MirRocksFedor said:
These guys are both very lucky people care about 155. Normally Gillispie would have been fed to Tony and Lee would have been cut after failing at 170.

Conor Bless 155
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{<huh}

There is no situation where a Gillespie/Tony fight would've made sense. What a bizarre post.
 
Gonna be a close 3 rounder. Gregor by late finish but he may lose the first 2 rounds.
 
I hope fighter Kevin Lee gets smothered and pummeled into retirement.. dudes a tool. Anyone else read his article on why he’s moving back to LW
 
Fun matchup. Lots of pressure on Lee to either smash him early or pace himself. Tough call really. No matter how he fights it’s impossible to imagine that Lee won’t get out hustled. So should he just try to put it on GG right away and get him out of there? Interesting matchup. If GG can outwrestle Lee even in round one then watch out
 
Gillespie's getting taken down and RNC'd. I hate Kevin Lee but he's still a beast.

I'll be rooting for Gregor, but I don't see this being a good matchup for him.
 
KeepItRealist said:
Think Gillispe gets dominated. Not a fan of either.
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How do you figure? Lee is so overrated as a talent. He is a one hitter quitter, no stamina and no power to KO anybody in the short time that he has stamina. The guy will wear down as usual, especially with the crazy pace Gillespie will put on him. This is a relatively easy fight for Gillespie.
 
dr. john lee said:
How do you figure? Lee is so overrated as a talent. He is a one hitter quitter, no stamina and no power to KO anybody in the short time that he has stamina. The guy will wear down as usual, especially with the crazy pace Gillespie will put on him. This is a relatively easy fight for Gillespie.
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Gillespie has fought mediocre opposition and looked fairly mediocre himself at times. This is a big step up for him. Lee has enough talent to not get held down and blanketed.

I think Lee owns him and gets overhyped again as a result.

Of course, if Gillespie survives long enough and Lee gasses, wouldn't surprise me.
 
MescalineDreams said:
Bruh why u so anti Kevin lee all the time lol
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Kevin Lee is a good fighter! His cardio is just shit and this massive weight cut won't help him. I wouldn't be shocked if he won but my gut tells me Gregor sinks in a 3rd round arm triangle on a tired Lee.

If I'm wrong, cool, Kevin gets back in the mix at LW. There are some fun match ups there. It ain't personal I swear lol!
 
KeepItRealist said:
Gillespie has fought mediocre opposition and looked fairly mediocre himself at times. This is a big step up for him. Lee has enough talent to not get held down and blanketed.

I think Lee owns him and gets overhyped again as a result.

Of course, if Gillespie survives long enough and Lee gasses, wouldn't surprise me.
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Lee has a few ways to win this. Neither him nor Gregor are particularly good on their backs so whoever get the first TD is gonna have the most early success. I'm just hoping for a nice scramble fest
 
GreatSaintGuillotine said:
Kevin Lee is a good fighter! His cardio is just shit and this massive weight cut won't help him. I wouldn't be shocked if he won but my gut tells me Gregor sinks in a 3rd round arm triangle on a tired Lee.

If I'm wrong, cool, Kevin gets back in the mix at LW. There are some fun match ups there. It ain't personal I swear lol!
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I think his issue is more energy management than anything. If Yoel, Woodley and a few others fought like Lee, they'd gas too. Difference is they've learned how to manage energy efficiently and pace themselves

He's gone 5 hard rounds before at a solid pace.

Having a proper head coach in Firaz after many fights of just winging it should be a game changer.

Obviously his skills aren't the issue but everything he does needs to be done with purpose and calculated intent from now on and his cardio should hold up fine. It's his mindless spazzy approach and poor fight iq that made his fights harder than they needed to be.

I think during a fight you get caught up in the heat of the moment and need an objective outside observer who can see the bigger picture and put those pieces together. Lee's biggest issue is not having proper direction is what it seem like
 
MescalineDreams said:
I think his issue is more energy management than anything. If Yoel, Woodley and a few others fought like Lee, they'd gas too. Difference is they've learned how to manage energy efficiently and pace themselves

He's gone 5 hard rounds before at a solid pace.

Having a proper head coach in Firaz after many fights of just winging it should be a game changer.

Obviously his skills aren't the issue but everything he does needs to be done with purpose and calculated intent from now on and his cardio should hold up fine. It's his mindless spazzy approach and poor fight iq that made his fights harder than they needed to be.
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Yeah, I don't disagree. I think he faded hard in the five rounder but otherwise, Lee is an overall good fighter with many useful tools. Hopefully the new leadership sparks something new in him.

I question his effectiveness if he is forced to hold back on that explosiveness he opens up with but I trust his camp to figure something out. It'll be a very good fight for sure.
 
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