Social Gender ideology is dying, common sense prevailing

[sanguinius]

@Prefect wanted that in the case of Wii spa in LA.

He was even okay with his wife and daughter sharing a bathroom with a naked dude airing out his balls.

Don't underestimate the cuckery coming out of the left wing contingency.

Don't waste your time, he's one of the ones that would applaud the guy drying his balls.

 

[Ares Black]

I can if it's coming from the extreme end of the left spectrum. .

No, you can't, because it's bullshit. Taking the most extreme view and pretending it's the position of everyone else who disagrees with you is the deeply dishonest and one of the biggest problems with talking about politics online.

You people are incapable of having an honest conversation.

Far leftism is peak degeneracy and only produces peak degenerates like @Prefect

I don't care what that guy thinks.

I don't care what you think.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

Wait, do you think leftist and liberal mean the same thing?

All liberals are left wing, not all leftists are liberals. Liberalism has always been left wing from its inception and has never stopped being left wing.

It's up to people like you, the types who go out of their way to point out a difference between leftism and liberalism, to define the universal consensus of what leftism actually is.

It'll be hard though since being a "leftist" is a rather broad category.

 

[Ares Black]

Don't waste your time, he's one of the ones that would applaud the guy drying his balls.

Man, you really don't know me at all.

And you are doing exactly what I have been saying you people do. Taking the most extreme view and then arguing against that instead of engaging honestly with the actual conversation.

 

[Ares Black]

All liberals are left wing,

Even neoliberals?

Interesting. That's news to me. And to anyone who isn't completely politically illiterate.

not all leftists are liberals. Liberalism has always been left wing from its inception and has never stopped being left wing.

Liberalism is an inherently capitalist ideology.

It's up to people like you, the types who go out of their way to point out a difference between leftism and liberalism, to define the universal consensus of what leftism actually is.

It'll be hard though since being a "leftist" is a rather broad category.

It is very broad, true. And there is no real consensus and can be no consensus because it's so broad.

But liberalism is not the same thing as leftism, and you can't use the words interchangeably without exposing yourself as either ignorant or dishonest.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

You before.....

No, you can't, because it's bullshit. Taking the most extreme view and pretending it's the position of everyone else who disagrees with you is the deeply dishonest and one of the biggest problems with talking about politics online.

You a nanosecond later...

You people are incapable of having an honest conversation.

And you are doing exactly what I have been saying you people do

Rules for thee ect ect

 

[Ares Black]

You before.....


You a nanosecond later...



Rules for thee ect ect

What are you even talking about?

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

Liberalism is an inherently capitalist ideology.

I want you on record suggesting liberalism is right-wing simply because it's economically laissez-faire (to varying degrees)

I haven't had a good chuckle in a while.

But liberalism is not the same thing as leftism, and you can't use the words interchangeably without exposing yourself as either ignorant or dishonest.

No shit, ones a category the other is an adherent to a specific ideology.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

What are you even talking about?

You're hypocrisy.

On the previous point though, I can absolutely use broad strokes for extremists holding extremist views.....by definition I can do that.

 

[Ares Black]

I want you on record suggesting liberalism is right-wing simply because it's economically laissez-faire (to varying degrees)

That isn't what I said at all, but go off.

I haven't had a good chuckle in a while.

I can tell. You seem miserable.

No shit, ones a category the other is an adherent to a specific ideology.

What is contained within that category?

And what is that specific ideology, precisely? Enlighten me.

 

[Ares Black]

You're hypocrisy.

*your

On the previous point though, I can absolutely use broad strokes for extremists holding extremist views.....by definition I can do that.

You can if you don't mind being dishonest

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

That isn't what I said at all, but go off.

YOU'RE right, you didn't. But there's no room for any other implication.

Go on then, tell us it's right wing.

I can tell. You seem miserable.

I can tell political theory isn't YOUR forte.

And what is that specific ideology, precisely? Enlighten me.

Do you or do you not know what liberalism is?
And btw, I was the one asking you for the specific definition of what the universal consensus of "leftism" is.

The onus is on you to establish the difference between leftism and liberalism, which should be funny to hear.

your

Dick tuck noted.

You can if you don't mind being dishonest

Can I get you on record suggesting extremists aren't extreme?

 

[Ares Black]

YOU'RE right, you didn't. But there's no room for any other implication.

Go on then, tell us it's right wing.

Neoliberalism is right wing. Is that not a kind of liberalism?

I can tell political theory isn't YOUR forte.

It's obviously not yours either.

.
Do you or do you not know what liberalism is?
And btw, I was the one asking you for the specific definition of what the universal consensus of "leftism" is.

There isn't one.

The onus is on you to establish the difference between leftism and liberalism, which should be funny to hear.
.

It's not my job to educate you, especially since you have no interest in arguing in good faith.

Dick tuck noted.


Can I get you on record suggesting extremists aren't extreme?

Why would I say that? It's unrelated to the conversation and I have never suggested anything like that.

 

[Bubzeh]

Bloody hell, what's going on in here then, chaps?

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

Neoliberalism is right wing. Is that not a kind of liberalism?

Shifting the goal posts in desperation I see.

Your original argument (not the conveniently ninja edited one) was:
"Wait, do you think leftist and liberal mean the same thing?"

Liberalism is left-wing, full stop. The onus is on you to define what a leftist is and how it's not applicable to liberalism.

There isn't one.

No shit, so stop talking like there is one. I've seen you reach for the " dO yOu aCtUaLlY tHiNk lIbeRaLs aNd lEfTiStS aRe tHe sAmE?" Talking point on more than one occasion and it seems you like don't even know what either of those things really are so maybe don't opine on the matter?

 

[Ares Black]

Lol fuck this thread is so dumb and irritating


Just the worst and most dishonest posters in Sherdog.

 

[Ares Black]

Trying to understand politics as a binary is almost as stupid and reductive as trying to understand gender as a binary

 

[UberHere]

Wait, do you think leftist and liberal mean the same thing?

They’re both represented by the DNC, but other than that not the same thing which why that party is falling apart right now. They have too many irreconcilable differences with each other and leftists don’t do well playing with others when it’s time for compromise

 

[UberHere]

Trying to understand politics as a binary is almost as stupid and reductive as trying to understand gender as a binary

But not as stupid as this post. Most people are single issue voters and don’t give a shit about politics. Elite Dems need to start understanding that and get off their high horses. The first rule of politics is to get suppprt and power, so you have to win elections. If you can’t do that, nothing else really matters no matter how good you think your ideas are or how bad you think the RNC’s ideas are

 

[Ares Black]

But not as stupid as this post. Most people are single issue voters and don’t give a shit about politics. Elite Dems need to start understanding that and get off their high horses. The first rule of politics is to get suppprt and power, so you have to win ejections.

Yes, and that's precisely the problem with politics. It rewards pandering to uneducated people by ridiculous oversimplifying and outright lying. That is why Trump is so successful.