Social Gender ideology is dying, common sense prevailing

[Ares Black]

We had a guy transition at my work recently. There was 0 doubt he was a man. But low and behold he wanted to be Madison instead of Michael .

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So no , my conception isn't from anti trans propaganda it's from seeing grown men dressed as women looking like men.

No your conception is based on anti-trans propaganda and supported by anecdotal evidence.

 

[fedoriswar37]

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No your conception is based on anti-trans propaganda and supported by anecdotal evidence.

Perfect. Like the majority of people in this world we can only observe what we see in front of us. And a man with long hair in a dress is still a man. No matter how much you want to pretend they aren't.

Such a sick little fetish.

Hopefully no trans people "occupy" your city anytime soon or you might explode out of confusion .

 

[Ares Black]

Perfect. Like the majority of people in this world we can only observe what we see in front of us.

If you are incurious, sure. There are lots of ways to better understand the world. Just looking is only the very first one.

And a man with long hair in a dress is still a man.

Sure. But that's not what most trans women are. They have usually done a lot more than that to affirm their gender identity.

No matter how much you want to pretend they aren't.

You've got it backwards. Before they transitioned they were pretending to not be trans.

Such a sick little fetish.

This has nothing to do with sex. It's about identity. You're the one obsessed with other people's genitals.

 

[fedoriswar37]

If you are incurious, sure. There are lots of ways to better understand the world. Just looking is only the very first one.

Sure. But that's not what most trans women are. They have usually done a lot more than that to affirm their gender identity.

You've got it backwards. Before they transitioned they were pretending to not be trans.

This has nothing to do with sex. It's about identity. You're the one obsessed with other people's genitals.

The pretending actually never stops. They just mutilate their body to continue.

 

[Ares Black]

The pretending actually never stops. They just mutilate their body to continue.

It's not my fault you don't know what you are talking about and have no interest in learning anything.


You literally just parrot the same anti-trans bullshit over and over like a good little boy.

 

[fedoriswar37]

It's not my fault you don't know what you are talking about and have no interest in learning anything.


You literally just parrot the same anti-trans bullshit over and over like a good little boy.

Its not anti-trans bullshit it's just reality to 99% of people. Your just having a really hard time coping with reality which is fine. But you do have a life to live and being butthurt about people not accepting a grown man as a women isnt a pleasant way to live it , IMO.

 

[Anewt]

you realize it's possible to change without exposing yourself? you can even use a locker room without getting naked or showering.....

how can you find out someone has a dick in a woman's bathroom?

and the majority of trans women will be hard to differentiate from some unattractive women.

Sadly its women finding out some have a dick in the bathrooms. Because youre correct it should be easily possible to not expose oneself... yet some seem to not take that option.

Which is really odd as generally people suffering body dismorphia feel shame and try to hide their bodies.... even people who are just uncomfortable with their bodies do that naturally.

The ones with male genetalia exposed to women and children in any change rooms.... is extremely concerning imo

 

[RoastBeast]

that's not what happens "these days".

and trans women have been using the woman's room for decades.

we are talking about trans women, not just a guy who decides he wants to go creep on women. a man violating privacy of women with no pretense of being trans should be illegal. and is in most jurisdictions as far as i know. and it's not a valid defense to just say i felt like a woman that day.

again, people like you want trans men to use the woman's facility. individuals who look like a guy, dress like a guy, testosterone of a guy, beard, using woman's facilities.

legislate the pervs and protect the well intentioned innocents.

Here is how reality works kflo.

There is no test to be able to tell if someone is trans or if they just have a fetish. You can only go by their word.

The ratio of men who abuse women and little girls is insanely higher than the ratio of women who abuse women and little girls.

We can safely say that the odds of someone's young daughter getting creeped on or assaulted by a woman in a female changing space is astronomically lower than their odds of getting creeped on or assaulted by a man. Just because that man is wearing lipstick and a purse does not make them any less dangerous than any other man out there to a female's safety in a private space. Therefore they do not belong in that space.

 

[Ares Black]

Its not anti-trans bullshit

It really is. You're just so naturally full of shit that you can't smell it.

it's just reality to 99% of people.

Bigots always assume that everyone else is as ignorant they are. In most places the majority of people support trans rights.

Your just having a really hard time coping with reality which is fine.

I really don't. I just understand what I'm talking about.

But you do have a life to live and being butthurt about people not accepting a grown man as a women isnt a pleasant way to live it , IMO.

I'm totally happy with letting people be who they are and standing up to people who want to oppress a vulnerable minority population.

You're on the wrong side of history and people like you will not be remembered fondly.


Hey Granddad, is it true that some people didn't know anything about trans people but hated them anyway??

 

[Ares Black]

Here is how reality works kflo.

There is no test to be able to tell if someone is trans or if they just have a fetish. You can only go by their word.

The ratio of men who abuse women and little girls is insanely higher than the ratio of women who abuse women and little girls.

Yes. Men. Men are the problem, not trans women. Isolated cases of trans sex offenders are statistically insignificant compared to the threat that cisgender men pose to women.

We can safely say that the odds of someone's young daughter getting creeped on or assaulted by a woman in a female changing space is astronomically lower than their odds of getting creeped on or assaulted by a man.

Sure. But that's largely irrelevant. You are saying that the government should pass sweeping legislation that violates literally everyone's privacy becomes of a handful of isolated creeps.

Where is the concern for the kids killed in school shootings or the countless rape victims un the military or on college campuses?

Yeah, let's ignore all that and focus on the really important stuff, like telling trans people they can't take a shit wherever they feel most comfortable.

Just because that man is wearing lipstick and a purse does not make them any less dangerous than any other man out there to a female's safety in a private space.

Therefore they do not belong in that space.

Do you honestly think you just made a solid argument?

 

[Hog-train]

He has made no claim that he is. Why would I ask?

Trans people are a tiny segment of the population. It's mathematically very unlikely that some random person is trans. Unless they explicitly tell me they're trans I will just treat them however they present themselves.

In this case, he presents himself as an insecure heterosexual man.

So you just assume people's gender like that?

 

[Ares Black]

So you just assume people's gender like that?

Classic NPC response

No one is actually offended when that happens.

In real life, if you misgender a trans person they either politely correct you or they ignore it and move on.


Repeatedly and intentionally misgendering someone is a little different, because it's overtly rude.

Most trans people are a lot less fragile and sensitive than you think. After all, they're the ones who survived to adulthood.

 

[RoastBeast]

Yes. Men. Men are the problem, not trans women. Isolated cases of trans sex offenders are statistically insignificant compared to the threat that cisgender men pose to women.

Sure. But that's largely irrelevant. You are saying that the government should pass sweeping legislation that violates literally everyone's privacy becomes of a handful of isolated creeps.

Where is the concern for the kids killed in school shootings or the countless rape victims un the military or on college campuses?

Yeah, let's ignore all that and focus on the really important stuff, like telling trans people they can't take a shit wherever they feel most comfortable.



Do you honestly think you just made a solid argument?

Your first paragraph is just made up BS. How would you know? There is no test to be able to tell if someone is trans or not so how the hell would they even be able to collect that data accurately in the first place?

I didn't say the government should pass legislation but I wouldn't really care if they did. I'm all for bringing back accosting people for doing things that are wrong. If my daughter is in the bathroom and some guy with lipstick and a purse tried to walk in, I'm going to ensure he doesn't spend a second in there alone with my daughter. Same goes for a man. No one should be fired from their job for doing that.

I have concerns about a lot of shit. Put up a school shooting thread and I'll talk about school shootings. Your point there is it irrelevant to the discussion.

The safety of women and young girls trumps the comfort of a trans person shitting.

Yes my basic logic is a fantastic argument that has worked just fine for decades.

 

[Ares Black]

Your first paragraph is just made up BS. How would you know? There is no test to be able to tell if someone is trans or not so how the hell would they even be able to collect that data accurately in the first place?

That didn't stop you from making shit up.

I didn't say the government should pass legislation but I wouldn't really care if they did.

Cool. Well I hope you're ok with people demanding see your genitals every time you use the washroom. You really don't see the slippery slope?

I'm all for bringing back accosting people for doing things that are wrong. If my daughter is in the bathroom and some guy with lipstick and a purse tried to walk in, I'm going to ensure he doesn't spend a second in there alone with my daughter. Same goes for a man. No one should be fired from their job for doing that.

This is an imaginary situation

I have concerns about a lot of shit. Put up a school shooting thread and I'll talk about school shootings. Your point there is it irrelevant to the discussion.
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Is it though? We are literally talking about the safety of children.

The safety of women and young girls trumps the comfort of a trans person shitting.

Glad to see you support stricter sexual assault laws and gun control.

Yes my basic logic is a fantastic argument that has worked just fine for decades.

Has it though?

 

[kflo]

Of course they don't want solutions. Most of them , not all , are a bunch of attention seeking ego driven lunies.

what are you basing that off of? your social media feed?

 

[Hog-train]

Classic NPC response

No one is actually offended when that happens.

In real life, if you misgender a trans person they either politely correct you or they ignore it and move on.


Repeatedly and intentionally misgendering someone is a little different, because it's overtly rude.

Most trans people are a lot less fragile and sensitive than you think. After all, they're the ones who survived to adulthood.

Then why are there PSA's telling people not to do that and also teaching it in public schools?

 

[kflo]

Yea but what if a trans person doesn't make an effort to hide their genitals while changing. How do you legislate against that? You just said there should be a law banning that.

yes. ban intentional unwanted exposure.

Talking about locker rooms and other nude places like spas.

spas are nude? locker rooms require nudity? again, trans don't need to be naked in these spaces. noone does.

Calling bullshit.

there are tons of women who you would identify as trans. and some trans you wouldn't be able to tell.

 

[Hog-train]

yes. ban intentional unwanted exposure.

So if you can ban unwanted exposure, then you can also just outright ban biological males in female locker rooms.

spas are nude? locker rooms require nudity? again, trans don't need to be naked in these spaces. noone does.

Most of the Korean and Russian spas are mandatory nudity.

 

[kflo]

Here is how reality works kflo.

There is no test to be able to tell if someone is trans or if they just have a fetish. You can only go by their word.

The ratio of men who abuse women and little girls is insanely higher than the ratio of women who abuse women and little girls.

We can safely say that the odds of someone's young daughter getting creeped on or assaulted by a woman in a female changing space is astronomically lower than their odds of getting creeped on or assaulted by a man. Just because that man is wearing lipstick and a purse does not make them any less dangerous than any other man out there to a female's safety in a private space. Therefore they do not belong in that space.

so, again, you INSIST on trans men using women's spaces? self identifying? it's ok i have a beard, bald head and filled with test - trust me i'm trans?

 

[Ares Black]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/man-harassed-girl-track-meet-trans_n_646d11c2e4b06749be172ea5

Anti-trans rhetoric hurts women and girls too.

And you people want to legislate it. It will not protect them from trans women. It will leave them open to sexual harassment every time they're in public