News Gegard Mousasi has sued PFL for breach of contract, and a claim for relief for Monopsonization. Getting 750K per bout, along with 50-200K finish bonus

[TorontoTO]

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

Well for a place called the Professional Fighters League, that's not very professional.

 

[Spath]

For a guy who has made a ton of money, he sure is pissed off a lot of the time. It’s like he hates his job and the people who he has to deal with because of his job.



I guess it’s a shit show to deal with the UFC and the PFL if you want to have something to say about how things are going to play out. The majority of successful fighters still seem to be happy with the small fortune they’ve made by fighting professionally…

 

[TorontoTO]

For a guy who has made a ton of money, he sure is pissed off a lot of the time. It’s like he hates his job and the people who he has to deal with because of his job.



I guess it’s a shit show to deal with the UFC and the PFL if you want to have something to say about how things are going to play out. The majority of successful fighters still seem to be happy with the small fortune they’ve made by fighting professionally…

Ask Dana if he doesn't want to make money, plus where is the whole "He signed the contract, it's his own fault" crowd now?

 

[Dreyga_King of Sherbums]

Hey, do you guys remember the poses here used to champion the PFL as being a better place for fighters?

How the PFL supposed to be in organization for fighters by the fighters. And that they didn’t have matchmakers so that their organization was more meritocratic???

It was crazy how many Sherbums got suckered into those lies. All of a sudden, all those guys seem very, very quiet. I wonder where they all went.

 

[TorontoTO]

Hey, do you guys remember the poses here used to champion the PFL as being a better place for fighters?

How the PFL supposed to be in organization for fighters by the fighters. And that they didn’t have matchmakers so that their organization was more meritocratic???

It was crazy how many Sherbums got suckered into those lies. All of a sudden, all those guys seem very, very quiet. I wonder where they all went.

Literally no one said this, you are just creating fictious people to be angry about

 

[Thesnake101]

Hey, do you guys remember the poses here used to champion the PFL as being a better place for fighters?

How the PFL supposed to be in organization for fighters by the fighters. And that they didn’t have matchmakers so that their organization was more meritocratic???

It was crazy how many Sherbums got suckered into those lies. All of a sudden, all those guys seem very, very quiet. I wonder where they all went.

Quote some posts or mention some users at least dude, on Worldwide most of us poured one out for Bellator the moment PFL acquired them. It's been known PFL is shitty since the WSOF days, or at the very latest from Lance Palmer's treatment back during the pandemic when he was one of the fighters who spoke out against PFL when they took that year off.

 

[HuskySamoan]

Hey, do you guys remember the poses here used to champion the PFL as being a better place for fighters?

How the PFL supposed to be in organization for fighters by the fighters. And that they didn’t have matchmakers so that their organization was more meritocratic???

It was crazy how many Sherbums got suckered into those lies. All of a sudden, all those guys seem very, very quiet. I wonder where they all went.

Competition in the sport is better for the fighters, it gives them more leveraging power and reveals their truer worth (which is a lot more than the 13 Billion dollar promotion known as the UFC gives them) but without unionization its tough to force these promotions to play fair. PFL is offering talent and ton upfront but it seems like when those guys don't pan out or when the budget doesn't allow it they try to weasel around it every chance they get and fuck the fighters over...which is problematic of course. They also go after these washed up guys like Mousasi and Pettis and offer them 750k a bout contracts...nuts.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Hey, do you guys remember the poses here used to champion the PFL as being a better place for fighters?

How the PFL supposed to be in organization for fighters by the fighters. And that they didn’t have matchmakers so that their organization was more meritocratic???

It was crazy how many Sherbums got suckered into those lies. All of a sudden, all those guys seem very, very quiet. I wonder where they all went.

Nope, I don't remember that at all.

 

[Pechan]

IIRC Scott gave him that contract just before leaving, PFL is claiming pretty much that it was done on purpose as a favor to a friend and they don't want to honor jt.

 

[spinup]

IIRC Scott gave him that contract just before leaving, PFL is claiming pretty much that it was done on purpose as a favor to a friend and they don't want to honor jt.

Given that Mousasi was reported to have made 300K for his last Bellator fight against Edwards, and was on a losing streak, I think PFL has a reasonnable claim to have been defrauded here.
PFL paying him 750k per fight in 2023 makes no sense.

 

[Lee Danger]

Given that Mousasi was reported to have made 300K for his last Bellator fight against Edwards, and was on a losing streak, I think PFL has a reasonnable claim to have been defrauded here.
PFL paying him 750k per fight in 2023 makes no sense.

is this the american way of dealing businness?
"we expect the clauses to be respected as long as it is to our advantage and we take everything back if it is no longer convenient for us".

 

[Chubi]

Unfortunately I think a lot of former UFC fighters who made a good name before going to the PFL are very disappointed with the organisation, despite the good salary. I hear a lot in podcasts and stuff that you just can't compare the UFC and the PFL in term of all around quality (logistic, promotion, communication, live events).

Mousasi is an all day salty guy, he was already pissed at the UFC before leaving, but I guess it shows a piece of why the PFL is veeeery far from competing with the UFC as an MMA org.

 

[Bubzeh]

Wrong forum but I wish him all the best tbh. Hope he gets something out of this.

 

[fedorthegoat777]

So I used to own a construction company and was audited by the friendly IRS and had a little legal battle with them.

A lot of it was over the classification of employees and 1099 contractors.

The UFC is paying it's employees as 1099 subcontractors but making them do things only employees can do. They do this to save millions in taxes.

A 1099 subcontractor can not be forced to wear an employee shirt or be tied into an employee agreement with them. The long term employee agreement is problematic.

I know this as I hired a lawyer to review classifications of employees and subcontractors.

 

[spinup]

is this the american way of dealing businness?
"we expect the clauses to be respected as long as it is to our advantage and we take everything back if it is no longer convenient for us".

Not exactly.
The issue here is Bellator signing new and unreasonnably expensive contracts just before selling to PFL. Contracts they would not have signed if they were conducting business as usual.
I don't know the details, but PFL could claim to have been defrauded by Coker and Mousasi.

Obviously if everything has been done legally, PFL should honor it.

 

[uled]

How to compete with UFC?

Step 1
- Treat fighters with respect

 

[jsbx45]

So I used to own a construction company and was audited by the friendly IRS and had a little legal battle with them.

A lot of it was over the classification of employees and 1099 contractors.

The UFC is paying it's employees as 1099 subcontractors but making them do things only employees can do. They do this to save millions in taxes.

A 1099 subcontractor can not be forced to wear an employee shirt or be tied into an employee agreement with them. The long term employee agreement is problematic.

I know this as I hired a lawyer to review classifications of employees and subcontractors.

I dealt with similar issues with my company. Restrictions and requirements on UFC Fighters do not fit the legal description of a 1099 contractor. I am surprised we have not heard more on this given the publicity of the lawsuits against the UFC.

 

[TorontoTO]

Given that Mousasi was reported to have made 300K for his last Bellator fight against Edwards, and was on a losing streak, I think PFL has a reasonnable claim to have been defrauded here.
PFL paying him 750k per fight in 2023 makes no sense.

Except when PFL was buying Bellator, they knew exactly what they were getting in terms of contracts.

 

[Thepaintbucket]

Damn everybody is suing everybody. You know what? I'm going to sue you too OP!