War Wagon Gane is going to shock the world.

AndrewGolota48 said:
LHW Stuart Austin manhandled and broke Tom, despite a THIRTY POUND size disadvantage. Imagine getting bitched around by a guy 30 lbs lighter in what is Tom's base, grappling, what he had already been training since childhood, and where size is such a huge asset. So don't bother with the excuse that it was a long time ago.

Sometimes shit happens in fights, Serra knocked out GSP. But like you already proved, Gane showed the heart and grit to deal with that adversity when Tai landed the fluke bomb (with Tai being one of the hardest hitters, power and chin are the only reason he's even UFC level) to come back and stop Tai in his tracks.

Gane actually BRAWLED after Tai landed that, just to prove a point, and finished his ass. He wanted to completely beta Tai and show him that he could outdo him in the only thing Tai is good at.

Tom on the other hand broke the one time he faced adversity in a fight. That's the difference.
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Beta ? Hope you’re a teenager lol
 
Gane is interesting for a few reasons
  • He's never been KO'd
  • He's probably the most technical, fluid striker that Tom has faced. Volkov would be the second most technical striker on Tom's resume, but that fight ended in R1 with a submission
  • Tom has never gone more than 2 rounds so it's possible Gane could test his cardio and ability to win a long, tough fight
With that said, it's quite possible Tom can take down Gane just like Ngannou (who's a mediocre grappler but very big/strong like Tom). He could either finish him on the ground or turn D1 like Francis did.
 
one of the variables people aren't talking about much is aspinall's gas tank, as in is it questionable. he has yet to fight past the 2nd round in his ufc career (and then only once), will be curious how he looks in championship rounds. if it suddenly shows up as a weakness gane could conceivably dance around and win a close decision. in fact, if i'm gane in this fight, that might be my strategy - try to survive the early rounds, tire him out and drag him into deep waters. don't know how else he wins really.
 
Tom is British they aren't elite wrestlers. Gane probably stuffs him and wins a comfortable decision. Not shocking at all.
 
kuroro said:
why do people say this? he was never in trouble and totally annihilated him.
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Ummm, are you confused about who we're talking about? Sergei Pavlovich annihilated Tai Tuivasa. Cyril Gane went to war with him.



Perhaps you should try watching the fight because this is why "people" are saying this. Dudes spose to be next gen high level defensive striker with MW speed and he's getting dropped and rocked by a 40% bodyfat rugby brawler. Luckily for him Tai has zero ground game or really any skills at all other than a haymaker.
 
legcramp said:
Tom is British they aren't elite wrestlers. Gane probably stuffs him and wins a comfortable decision. Not shocking at all.
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Tom has a 100% TD success rate and a 100% TD defense rate.

In his last 5 fights, Gane has been taken down in 9 out of 12 attempts, and only one of those people was even a "grappler". And the only thing thats worse than Gane's takedown defense, is his actual takedown offense. This is a guy who shot for FOURTEEN takedowns again Rozenstruik.... and took him down twice. Overall his TD rate is 25%.
 
Epsteins Guard said:
Ummm, are you confused about who we're talking about? Sergei Pavlovich annihilated Tai Tuivasa. Cyril Gane went to war with him.



Perhaps you should try watching the fight because this is why "people" are saying this. Dudes spose to be next gen high level defensive striker with MW speed and he's getting dropped and rocked by a 40% bodyfat rugby brawler. Luckily for him Tai has zero ground game or really any skills at all other than a haymaker.
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Gane is not a brawler, his fighting style has holes in it but can be very effective if you let the fight drag. Think of gane as a temu Dricus.
 
mkt said:
Gane is interesting for a few reasons
  • He's never been KO'd
  • He's probably the most technical, fluid striker that Tom has faced. Volkov would be the second most technical striker on Tom's resume, but that fight ended in R1 with a submission
  • Tom has never gone more than 2 rounds so it's possible Gane could test his cardio and ability to win a long, tough fight
With that said, it's quite possible Tom can take down Gane just like Ngannou (who's a mediocre grappler but very big/strong like Tom). He could either finish him on the ground or turn D1 like Francis did.
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Reasoned take.

I like that you propose Tom's cardio and ability to go 5 is unknown rather than a guaranteed weakness - as the guys who are only infatuated with Jones but don't even like MMA do.
 
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legcramp said:
Tom is British they aren't elite wrestlers. Gane probably stuffs him and wins a comfortable decision. Not shocking at all.
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This is such a dumb argument

Sweden isn't known for Pole Vaulters

Duplantis must be shit

Wales and Northern Ireland are shit at football, Ryan Giggs and George Best must be crap

Could do this with any sport. It makes no sense.

Based on what we have seen and what we know of their training history, Tom is an effective grappler and Gane is not. Tom is likely a better grappler than most (note: most) the dudes Gane has faced and several have taken him down. Including mediocre one knee grappler Ngannou.
 
Epsteins Guard said:
Tom has a 100% TD success rate and a 100% TD defense rate.

In his last 5 fights, Gane has been taken down in 9 out of 12 attempts, and only one of those people was even a "grappler". And the only thing thats worse than Gane's takedown defense, is his actual takedown offense. This is a guy who shot for FOURTEEN takedowns again Rozenstruik.... and took him down twice. Overall his TD rate is 25%.
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Stiff competition between kururo and brain cramp for dumbest post on this page of the thread
 
I'm rooting for Gane just to go on sherdog afterwards to see how they spin it. I don't think Aspinall is invincible and perfect in every facet and Gane isn't the white belt with no wrestling everyone thinks he is.

Don't think Aspinall is just going to KO him 1st exchange or sub him right away. Going to be a tough fight for both.
 
Tweak896 said:
I'm rooting for Gane just to go on sherdog afterwards to see how they spin it.
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Sherdog will spin it badly.
It will just add to legacy of retired Jon Jones and reduce the credibility of the whole HW division.

Similar to what happened when DC became double champ and defeated Stipe, but worse, because Jones is retired.
 
I don't think Aspinall is that good and he will be rusty . Gsne has a definite shot but Aspunall likely just lays on him 5 rds like 1 legged Frank did.
 
Tweak896 said:
I'm rooting for Gane just to go on sherdog afterwards to see how they spin it. I don't think Aspinall is invincible and perfect in every facet and Gane isn't the white belt with no wrestling everyone thinks he is.

Don't think Aspinall is just going to KO him 1st exchange or sub him right away. Going to be a tough fight for both.
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He absolutely is the white belt with no wrestling that everyone thinks he is.

In his last 5 fights, he's been taken down 9 out of 12 times. Only one of those fights was even against a grappler. He can't even stop non-grapplers from taking him down at will. His takedown offense is just as bad. He has a 25% takedown success rate and he shot for FOURTEEN takedowns against ROZENSTRUIK and still only took him down twice.
 
Aspinall isn't stupid. This fight will hit the mat two minutes into the first round if he doesn't catch Gane with something earlier. I don't see Gane finishing Aspinall within this time frame, and I'm pretty confident Aspinall will take this fight to the ground rather quickly if it gets risky on the feet. Aspinall wins within 2 rounds, likely by submission.
 
SamuraiBro said:
Slow fat fuck Tui dropped Gane and was a punch away from getting finished. Tom sparks him out or subs him in 2 minutes.
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Coulda, woulda, shoulda. Gane won that fight by KO. So, he ALMOST lost, but won by blasting out the other guy, instead? He landed at twice the accuracy rate as Tui, and landed nearly four times as many strikes. But, sure, he "almost" lost while crusing to a KO win.

When he got dropped, he bounced right back up, on steady legs and after catching another shot or two, he immediately hurt Tuivasa. He was so close to getting taken out that he won that round on all the judges' scorecards.

It's the HW division. Everyone is a punch away from getting finished, at any time. The greatest champion in UFC history, in terms of title defenses, lost by KO to Stefan Struve, for f--k's sake. This is such a stupid argument.
 
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