Tech Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

[rob mafia]

AMD cpu performance in the end performance has not improved that much

 

[PEB]

No it hasn't improved that much relative to previous generation. Still offering an advantage in multitasking loads but single core not a significant advantage over multiple tests. Show me were AMD dominants Intel in gaming or even productivity tasks.

Yes AMD fanboys will talk about AMD heavily but they are in many cases paying a 10 to 15 percent premium now if not more. AMD not the price champion anymore vs performance. So go ahead put your memes up lol.

 

[My Spot]

Because it is not the best CPU+GPU combo for absolute gaming performance.

Which is I said objectively. No point in getting a 5950X and 3099 for gaming.

 

[My Spot]

*why I said objectively.

 

[jefferz]

No it hasn't improved that much relative to previous generation. Still offering an advantage in multitasking loads but single core not a significant advantage over multiple tests. Show me were AMD dominants Intel in gaming or even productivity tasks.

Yes AMD fanboys will talk about AMD heavily but they are in many cases paying a 10 to 15 percent premium now if not more. AMD not the price champion anymore vs performance. So go ahead put your memes up lol.

When the hell did you stop being a AMD fangirl?

 

[rob mafia]

No it hasn't improved that much relative to previous generation. Still offering an advantage in multitasking loads but single core not a significant advantage over multiple tests. Show me were AMD dominants Intel in gaming or even productivity tasks.

Yes AMD fanboys will talk about AMD heavily but they are in many cases paying a 10 to 15 percent premium now if not more. AMD not the price champion anymore vs performance. So go ahead put your memes up lol.

you just backpedaled from best to price.

yes, they cost more. and they should, they're literally the best CPUs.

 

[hillelslovak87]

Anyone got a line on a 3060ti? I'll do..........terrible things to get my hands on one before Christmas.......

 

[Madmick]

Which is I said objectively. No point in getting a 5950X and 3099 for gaming.

Then you need to review what that word means. "Objectively" that is the best combo. The best gaming CPU is the R9-5950X, and the best gaming GPU is the RTX 3090. That's objectively the best gaming combo right now.

Also objectively, the R5-5600X and the RTX 3080 are a better value. Yet objectively those aren't the supreme value at MSRP in new condition, either (particularly when associated with related baseline costs like the motherboard, CPU cooler, and PSU).

So it is only "subjectively" that the 5600X/3080 combo can be called the best. What you're trying to articulate is that they are the optimal combo for peak performance before the price-to-performance curve flattens (meaning you've reached the plateau's break).

 

[salamander]

I bought a RM 850x gold few weeks ago. Had no luck finding anything else. As it turned out the (former) assistant manager of the Canada Computers I go to got caught selling rtx 3080's from his twitter account.

I'd been fruitlessly searching around til finally today I gave up and put a backorder in for an RTX 3080 Ventus 3x 10g for $1207.97 CAD

 

[My Spot]

Then you need to review what that word means. "Objectively" that is the best combo. The best gaming CPU is the R9-5950X, and the best gaming and GPU is the RTX 3090. That's objectively the best gaming combo right now.

Also objectively, the R5-5600X and the RTX 3080 are a better value. Yet objectively those aren't the supreme value at MSRP in new condition, either (particularly when associated with related baseline costs like the motherboard, CPU cooler, and PSU).

So it is only "subjectively" that the 5600X/3080 combo can be called the best. What you're trying to articulate is that they are the optimal combo for peak performance before the price-to-performance curve flattens (meaning you've reached the plateau's break).

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[jefferz]

If this is true, Nvidia fucked up.

 

[Woldog]

Went to local computer store today
"any 3080's in stock"
"yes but you have to buy a motherboard with them, for every 3080 we order we also have to order 10 motherboards from that brand"
"I don't need a motherboard"
"we can sell you a 3090"

Yeah look at me the billionaire with 3090 money

 

[Prefect]

If this is true, Nvidia fucked up.

How does that no make sense? They are reviewing hardware and not focusing on hat the hardware can do. I almost gave up on ray tracing and thought I bought a hoax until Cyberpunk.

 

[thehighking]

Went to local computer store today
"any 3080's in stock"
"yes but you have to buy a motherboard with them, for every 3080 we order we also have to order 10 motherboards from that brand"
"I don't need a motherboard"
"we can sell you a 3090"

Yeah look at me the billionaire with 3090 money

They need to find a different supplier lol

 

[jefferz]

How does that no make sense? They are reviewing hardware and not focusing on hat the hardware can do. I almost gave up on ray tracing and thought I bought a hoax until Cyberpunk.

Hardware Unboxed is one of, if not the best, when it comes to graphic cards reviews. Nvidia trying to strong arm one of the most popular reviewers content by saying "should your editorial direction change" is a massive red flag.

 

[Blayt7hh]

Of course

And keep in mind, AMD X570 & B550 motherboards support PCIE Gen 4.0 while none of the current Intel boards do.

The new Nvidia 3000 series GPUs as well as the AMD 6000 series GPUs (also the previous 5000 series) support Gen 4.0 - I don't know if you would be losing much if any performance by using a motherboard with a Gen 3.0 interface but it is something to keep in mind for the future @Madmick would know more about this.

And with that, you also wouldn't be able to utilise any Gen 4.0 NVME SSDs to their full potential if you decide to go with a current Intel board.

They will be supporting Gen 4.0 but only when their next CPUs and motherboards come out next year.

For graphics cards and gaming, pci-e 4 doesn’t offer any benefits, at least not today.

https://www.kitguru.net/components/...ia-rtx-3080-pcie-4-0-vs-3-0-scaling-analysis/

 

[Nimrod]

Then you need to review what that word means. "Objectively" that is the best combo. The best gaming CPU is the R9-5950X, and the best gaming and GPU is the RTX 3090. That's objectively the best gaming combo right now.

Also objectively, the R5-5600X and the RTX 3080 are a better value. Yet objectively those aren't the supreme value at MSRP in new condition, either (particularly when associated with related baseline costs like the motherboard, CPU cooler, and PSU).

So it is only "subjectively" that the 5600X/3080 combo can be called the best. What you're trying to articulate is that they are the optimal combo for peak performance before the price-to-performance curve flattens (meaning you've reached the plateau's break).

I think he is well within his rights to use the term objectively..

Subjective is just an opinion.

So objectively you could say that the 5600x and 3080 are best within that price bracket.. that is viable and correct..

 

[rob mafia]

So objectively you could say that the 5600x and 3080 are best within that price bracket..

that's not what he said, though. you're inserting "within that price bracket," making it a totally different claim.


and my local microcenter got 6900XTs/5800Xs in yesterday. of course, already sold out of the 6900xt. kinda surprised to see more 5800Xs already, hoping the 5000 supply is better than expected.

aaaaaaaaaand apparently, they got 6800s/6800XTs in this morning... but sold out before i noticed, so no idea of quantities.

 

[Gregolian]

that's not what he said, though. you're inserting "within that price bracket," making it a totally different claim.


and my local microcenter got 6900XTs/5800Xs in yesterday. of course, already sold out of the 6900xt. kinda surprised to see more 5800Xs already, hoping the 5000 supply is better than expected.

aaaaaaaaaand apparently, they got 6800s/6800XTs in this morning... but sold out before i noticed, so no idea of quantities.

They have to be getting like.... 3-5 of each and some people are buying one of each and walking out with three intending to keep one and sell 2 on the third party market at a 200% markup because SOMEONE someplace will pay for it.

 

[My Spot]

5600X is top gaming CPU on both Anandtech and TH.