Tech Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

[method115]

Newegg won't help you out at all.

Wow what a horrible system. I hate this 3rd party seller trend on sites like this. Walmart does it also it's annoying as hell.

 

[Gregolian]

AMD To End Production of Radeon RX 6900 XT, RX 6800 XT, RX 6800 Reference Models, Will Focus on Custom AIB Variants [Update]

LMAO, what a fucking dog and pony show. First, AMD creates the best-performing reference design in history: triple-fan with a sky-is-the-limit power delivery, the best cooling and cooling-to-noise ratio we've ever seen under load at the high end, and a fan idling mode. There's no need for AIB variants. None.

Then they make none of them. Worst paper launch we've ever seen. Even worse than NVIDIA's RTX 3000 prank on the world.

Then they stop making a card they never made in the first place.

I'm sure they'll sort it out shortly...

JUST when I was debating if when the time came to upgrade my motherboard and stuff this summer if I should move from Intel to AMD....

 

[Madmick]

I'm deeply skeptical about the hype, here.

So far we're having to make assumptions about certain pipelines, but just based on the physical specifications alone, it's laughable to present the RX 6900 XT as a competitor to the RTX 3090. The 300W TDP doesn't seem realistic for this card, either. I suspect the actual power consumption will exceed that by more than GPUs usually exceed their quoted TDP; particularly relative to the RTX 3000 series. The enormous difference between the core clock and boost clocks on the AMD cards tingles my spidey senses, and the whopping 2GHz memory clock doesn't assuage my concerns. It reeks of a card being pushed to the limit with its narrow bus and inferior memory standard just to keep its VRAM from being dusted, and it's still getting clobbered. The 7nm advantage certainly doesn't justify any of these discrepancies. To be blunt, I'm concerned about a repeat of the heat issues that plagued the Vega release.

The RX 6800 XT is obviously the best buy of the bunch, and yet, superficially, before we see actual benchmarks, on paper, I can't imagine how it will perform well enough to warrant a recommendation at $649 over the RTX 3080 for $699, especially when we consider its deep-learning deficiency.

Nailed this one. The 6900 XT is a huge disappointment. It's a terrible buy. It will be worth consideration when supply becomes available and drops to the same $699 price point as the RTX 3080 on the open market. Even then I would favor the 3080 based on the upside of DLSS 2.0 and other features because the difference is so minor (~4% in games).



AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT Review

 

[My Spot]

AMD better hurry up with their version of DLSS because until then Nvidia rules both 1440 and 4K.

 

[Slobodan]

AMD To End Production of Radeon RX 6900 XT, RX 6800 XT, RX 6800 Reference Models, Will Focus on Custom AIB Variants [Update]

LMAO, what a fucking dog and pony show. First, AMD creates the best-performing reference design in history: triple-fan with a sky-is-the-limit power delivery, the best cooling and cooling-to-noise ratio we've ever seen under load at the high end, and a fan idling mode. There's no need for AIB variants. None.

Then they make none of them. Worst paper launch we've ever seen. Even worse than NVIDIA's RTX 3000 prank on the world.

Then they stop making a card they never made in the first place.

I'm sure they'll sort it out shortly...

According to this guy they're extending it, I really hope so.

At launch over here these were like 300-350 dollars cheaper than any of the 3080s

 

[Slobodan]

JUST when I was debating if when the time came to upgrade my motherboard and stuff this summer if I should move from Intel to AMD....

Just the CPU or were you thinking of also upgrading the GPU and going all AMD?

 

[Gregolian]

Just the CPU or were you thinking of also upgrading the GPU and going all AMD?

I was debating full AMD but mostly leaning just the CPU and mobo.

Mostly as I have had two different ASUS products and the only reason one of the laptops died was cause I had it for almost 8 years and it got beat to shit as my college laptop of choice and it seems like MOST of their motherboards are set for and AMD processor at minimum.

 

[PEB]

AMD To End Production of Radeon RX 6900 XT, RX 6800 XT, RX 6800 Reference Models, Will Focus on Custom AIB Variants [Update]

LMAO, what a fucking dog and pony show. First, AMD creates the best-performing reference design in history: triple-fan with a sky-is-the-limit power delivery, the best cooling and cooling-to-noise ratio we've ever seen under load at the high end, and a fan idling mode. There's no need for AIB variants. None.

Then they make none of them. Worst paper launch we've ever seen. Even worse than NVIDIA's RTX 3000 prank on the world.

Then they stop making a card they never made in the first place.

I'm sure they'll sort it out shortly...

This may explain why anyways. Jay a big supporter of AMD too.



"That moment when you realize there are more people right now driving around in Rolls Royces than the number of people gaming on RTX 3080s and 6800XTs"

 

[Slobodan]

I was debating full AMD but mostly leaning just the CPU and mobo.

Mostly as I have had two different ASUS products and the only reason one of the laptops died was cause I had it for almost 8 years and it got beat to shit as my college laptop of choice and it seems like MOST of their motherboards are set for and AMD processor at minimum.

They might still keep producing the reference designs according to one of their employees in in my post above.

But for how long I don't know...

 

[Gregolian]

They might still keep producing the reference designs according to one of their employees in in my post above.

But for how long I don't know...

I could build an AMD system with CPU and mobo but use a like NVIDIA GPU right?

 

[Slobodan]

I could build an AMD system with CPU and mobo but use a like NVIDIA GPU right?

Of course

And keep in mind, AMD X570 & B550 motherboards support PCIE Gen 4.0 while none of the current Intel boards do.

The new Nvidia 3000 series GPUs as well as the AMD 6000 series GPUs (also the previous 5000 series) support Gen 4.0 - I don't know if you would be losing much if any performance by using a motherboard with a Gen 3.0 interface but it is something to keep in mind for the future @Madmick would know more about this.

And with that, you also wouldn't be able to utilise any Gen 4.0 NVME SSDs to their full potential if you decide to go with a current Intel board.

They will be supporting Gen 4.0 but only when their next CPUs and motherboards come out next year.

 

[My Spot]

I could build an AMD system with CPU and mobo but use a like NVIDIA GPU right?

Yep. The (objectively) best for gaming right now would be a Ryzen 5 5600X with an RTX 3080. Assuming you can find them for decent prices.

 

[KaNesDeath]

The (objectively) best for gaming right now would be a Ryzen 5 5600X with an RTX 3080.

5600X is the best price to performance CPU on the market.

 

[Madmick]

Yep. The (objectively) best for gaming right now would be a Ryzen 5 5600X with an RTX 3080. Assuming you can find them for decent prices.

 

[My Spot]

Why not?

 

[rob mafia]

it's far from objectively best, but it's subjectively the best/best for the money.

 

[Madmick]

Why not?

Because it is not the best CPU+GPU combo for absolute gaming performance.

 

[jefferz]

AMD To End Production of Radeon RX 6900 XT, RX 6800 XT, RX 6800 Reference Models, Will Focus on Custom AIB Variants [Update]

LMAO, what a fucking dog and pony show. First, AMD creates the best-performing reference design in history: triple-fan with a sky-is-the-limit power delivery, the best cooling and cooling-to-noise ratio we've ever seen under load at the high end, and a fan idling mode. There's no need for AIB variants. None.

Then they make none of them. Worst paper launch we've ever seen. Even worse than NVIDIA's RTX 3000 prank on the world.

Then they stop making a card they never made in the first place.

I'm sure they'll sort it out shortly...

There might not have been enough profit in them to continue making the cards. Material prices went up, tariffs, etc.
I know it's different since AMD is making everything from beginning to end, but EVGA and Ed from Sapphire on live streams have stated they only make about $30-$40 per card. Even the high end stuff.

 

[560ti]

Why not?

Not the best for absolute gaming performance and even for bang for your buck the 10400 offers near identical 1440/4k gaming performance for almost half the price (even with the 10th gen flaws the 10400 is damn good for it's price)

 

[PEB]

Not the best for absolute gaming performance and even for bang for your buck the 10400 offers near identical 1440/4k gaming performance for almost half the price (even with the 10th gen flaws the 10400 is damn good for it's price)

Stop it we know your an Intel fanboy throwing out a lifeline to a dying brand lol.




Just kidding with all the hyperventilating about next gen. AMD cpu performance in the end performance has not improved that much. One thing it largely eliminated the performance advantages offered by Intel. But cost advantages not really.