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I'd need a good $100 off to even consider it and even then it would most likely be a no. Just like you I had issues with my 290 and I said never again. Ever since I've switched to Nvidia I haven't had any issues similar to that at all. I'm not frugal when it comes to gaming I'll spend my money as I need to.
And when they do have issues, they're generally pretty good about addressing them. After the internet decided to criticize Nvidia because their 30-series partner cards had crashing issues, I was unsurprised to see Nvidia take the problem in hand by issuing a prompt driver release.
 
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Personally, parity isn't enough to warrant jumping ship from Nvidia. The last time I gave Radeon a chance it felt like a huge headache, and all my issues evaporated after installing my first Nvidia card. It's good for the market place though, and I wouldn't mind more competitive pricing (although I'm not convinced that will happen at 50 dollars less). It is reasonable to expect that it would, but PC enthusiasts aren't thrifty as a rule so I wonder how much difference it will really make in terms of demand for 3080s.

For myself, after 3rd party reviews come in, I wouldn't really consider an AMD card unless it was like 75 dollars cheaper with the same performance or 20% more powerful at the same price.

if one's using a 5xx MB and zen3, they can get additional performance via sam ("smart access memory"), which tends to be in the 5-10% range.

additionally, amd's gpus are running at less wattage. ie: more efficient.

just sayin'
 
if one's using a 5xx MB and zen3, they can get additional performance via sam ("smart access memory"), which tends to be in the 5-10% range.

additionally, amd's gpus are running at less wattage. ie: more efficient.

just sayin'
That all sounds great, but I'd still wait until reviewers get their hands on them or embargoes are lifted before bothering to plan around that. If AMD's CPUs live up to what their benchmarks claim though it is pretty likely that I'll be getting one of their CPUs next year.
 
That all sounds great, but I'd still wait until reviewers get their hands on them or embargoes are lifted before bothering to plan around that. If AMD's CPUs live up to what their benchmarks claim though it is pretty likely that I'll be getting one of their CPUs next year.

no disagreement here, i always wait for reviews/etc.
 
I'm deeply skeptical about the hype, here.

So far we're having to make assumptions about certain pipelines, but just based on the physical specifications alone, it's laughable to present the RX 6900 XT as a competitor to the RTX 3090. The 300W TDP doesn't seem realistic for this card, either. I suspect the actual power consumption will exceed that by more than GPUs usually exceed their quoted TDP; particularly relative to the RTX 3000 series. The enormous difference between the core clock and boost clocks on the AMD cards tingles my spidey senses, and the whopping 2GHz memory clock doesn't assuage my concerns. It reeks of a card being pushed to the limit with its narrow bus and inferior memory standard just to keep its VRAM from being dusted, and it's still getting clobbered. The 7nm advantage certainly doesn't justify any of these discrepancies. To be blunt, I'm concerned about a repeat of the heat issues that plagued the Vega release.

The RX 6800 XT is obviously the best buy of the bunch, and yet, superficially, before we see actual benchmarks, on paper, I can't imagine how it will perform well enough to warrant a recommendation at $649 over the RTX 3080 for $699, especially when we consider its deep-learning deficiency.
 
I'm deeply skeptical about the hype, here.

So far we're having to make assumptions about certain pipelines, but just based on the physical specifications alone, it's laughable to present the RX 6900 XT as a competitor to the RTX 3090. The 300W TDP doesn't seem realistic for this card, either. I suspect the actual power consumption will exceed that by more than GPUs usually exceed their quoted TDP; particularly relative to the RTX 3000 series. The enormous difference between the core clock and boost clocks on the AMD cards tingles my spidey senses, and the whopping 2GHz memory clock doesn't assuage my concerns. It reeks of a card being pushed to the limit with its narrow bus and inferior memory standard just to keep its VRAM from being dusted, and it's still getting clobbered. The 7nm advantage certainly doesn't justify any of these discrepancies. To be blunt, I'm concerned about a repeat of the heat issues that plagued the Vega release.

The RX 6800 XT is obviously the best buy of the bunch, and yet, superficially, before we see actual benchmarks, on paper, I can't imagine how it will perform well enough to warrant a recommendation at $649 over the RTX 3080 for $699, especially when we consider its deep-learning deficiency.

supply could be a factor. i'm not sure how long it'll take for the 3080s to actually hit the market with ample supply. $699 for a real product could be better than $750 for a wait.

of course, there's 3 weeks of lead time for this, so...

edit: i typo'd the 6800xt price above. it's 649, like i said in the previous post. i've been way too sleep deprived, apparently.
 
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supply could be a factor. i'm not sure how long it'll take for the 3080s to actually hit the market with ample supply. $699 for a real product could be better than $750 for a wait.

of course, there's 3 weeks of lead time for this, so...

Isn't' the 3080 $699?

Well I found some for $699 anyways. Well out of stock but you know what I mean.
 
Hardware Unboxed with a good analysis of the announcement

 
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In the video I posted Tim presented a neutral viewpoint of the presentation and if anything downplayed the FPS results.

The video you posted Steve mentions that they won't confirm or deny things like before and will address rumors in a more neutral stance based on the reactions they got. I'm not sure how that means they won't say anything bad about AMD.
 
In the video I posted Tim presented a neutral viewpoint of the presentation and if anything downplayed the FPS results.

The video you posted Steve mentions that they won't confirm or deny things like before and will address rumors in a more neutral stance based on the reactions they got. I'm not sure how that means they won't say anything bad about AMD.

The reason they're deciding to be more "neutral" is because they said bad things about AMD, even though they were rumors, and the fanboys lost their shit. Why should Tim, Steve, or any tech reviewer have to dance around saying anything bad about AMD?
 
The reason they're deciding to be more "neutral" is because they said bad things about AMD, even though they were rumors, and the fanboys lost their shit. Why should Tim, Steve, or any tech reviewer have to dance around saying anything bad about AMD?
What "bad" things did they say?
 
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