Fury by KO

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Love evander but people calling themselves christian often have something to hide.

A lot of Xtians are hypocrites. That's my main issue with them. I was initially baptized Catholic and went to a parochial school for 5 years. Organized religion in general is nothing but a bunch of bullshit. Churches are always passing their basket around fishing for donations, too many priests out there are pеdos, and then there are all of those holier-than-thou types. Not interested in being a part of the parish anymore. I don't miss it.

 

[Fishmonger]

 

[SandisLL]

very possible, I always will believe Pac was loaded with ped's during his short post Oscar prime. Mayweather was correct to be suspicous, no human being has ever done it like that and mayweather woulda got his ass handed to him and he knew it.

Of course, no one admits it even when it's obvious as a kid with chocolate all over his face saying, "i didn't eat it". Even Holyfield has claimed the clean living, christian bullshit when asked.

Holyfield when was CW pro didn't had used peds. Then he was most mobile and interesting his version BTW. He had started to juice when he moved to HW and bulked up extra muscle mass a lot.

 

[SandisLL]

There ofc for Usyk really noy easy might to hide anything.
Ofc I don't trust tests done in Ukr for ukr boxer...
However all most notable am and pro fights Usyk had did on foreign soil and had been tested in these events with a glance.

For example in 2008 th he he had competed in 3 very high level torunaments in Bulgaria, Russia and U.K ....
Definitely they does have their own high level ams boxers and for them 0 reasons to babysit some concurrent with testing. Pretty opposite: they with a glance had popped up if something wrong.
2009 th was Italy, unlike with pros they does have very good high level am boxers ...and normal premials for medals... ofc testing and if concurrent isn't clean there 0 mercy...
2010, 2011, 2012 he too had been tested in foreign countries. Incl for Games 2012.

Interesting that in pros he did all his notable fights on foreign soil and mainly vs their tickets sellers..../ so obiviously that they had tested him with vigor and carefully monitored hands wraps, gloves etc....especially if your tickets seller isn't undefeateated anymore after fight vs Usyk...

High level pro boxers are investments objects with intent to earn money cos they are highly ranked, it is possible to sell tickets with them on fight cards, to earn from ad deals and endorsement stuff.

So ofc you prefer that fight will be in your country and then....IF.... it is easy to test, claim and so on...

 

[SandisLL]

If about body punches, usyk had fights vs Beterbiev in ams...
Betrrbiev as opponent always was nightmare to have in the ring mainly cos his style.....
Pro Bet easily might make LHW weight ins without problems and actually packed CW level power.
However most nasty stuff was that he didn't had rushed for fast stoppages....his flowchart was initially to slow down opponent before attempting to finish guy in distance. There for him powerful tool was to land some body blows and opponents get slowed down....

 

[mozfonky]

Holyfield when was CW pro didn't had used peds. Then he was most mobile and interesting his version BTW. He had started to juice when he moved to HW and bulked up extra muscle mass a lot.

yup, he was pfp better as a cw of course. As a heavyweight, he was never a puncher no matter how many roids he took.

 

[mozfonky]

A lot of Xtians are hypocrites. That's my main issue with them. I was initially baptized Catholic and went to a parochial school for 5 years. Organized religion in general is nothing but a bunch of bullshit. Churches are always passing their basket around fishing for donations, too many priests out there are pеdos, and then there are all of those holier-than-thou types. Not interested in being a part of the parish anymore. I don't miss it.

lots of good people but I'm always wary of christians or people that advertise they are christian. For whatever reason, some of the MMA fighters/teachers I was around were heavy into religion, looking back, I think it was a way for them to balance out how normal citizens saw them at the time. At that time, MMA fighters were looked upon very strangely, still are today but back then it was different.

The christians I grew up around were hypocrites but I really miss them all today. I don't even know if the religion was the most important part of the entire thing, i think it was more social for many of them. Almost got my first piece of pussy, i'll never know now but ya, they were hypocrites.

 

[mozfonky]

Who? Evan Fields?

yup, what a clever name to throw off those pesky writers and folk who might look into his alleged use.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

There ofc for Usyk really noy easy might to hide anything.
Ofc I don't trust tests done in Ukr for ukr boxer...
However all most notable am and pro fights Usyk had did on foreign soil and had been tested in these events with a glance.

For example in 2008 th he he had competed in 3 very high level torunaments in Bulgaria, Russia and U.K ....
Definitely they does have their own high level ams boxers and for them 0 reasons to babysit some concurrent with testing. Pretty opposite: they with a glance had popped up if something wrong.
2009 th was Italy, unlike with pros they does have very good high level am boxers ...and normal premials for medals... ofc testing and if concurrent isn't clean there 0 mercy...
2010, 2011, 2012 he too had been tested in foreign countries. Incl for Games 2012.

Interesting that in pros he did all his notable fights on foreign soil and mainly vs their tickets sellers..../ so obiviously that they had tested him with vigor and carefully monitored hands wraps, gloves etc....especially if your tickets seller isn't undefeateated anymore after fight vs Usyk...

High level pro boxers are investments objects with intent to earn money cos they are highly ranked, it is possible to sell tickets with them on fight cards, to earn from ad deals and endorsement stuff.

So ofc you prefer that fight will be in your country and then....IF.... it is easy to test, claim and so on...

I mentioned that Usyk's been tested by everybody for the last 16+ years. Nobody's actually (directly) accused him of using PEDs in this thread. Tyson Fury and his dad did previously. What made it funny was that Tyson had popped for nandrolone in the past. The doping allegations were made back in 2022/2023 before Usyk fought Fury.

“He’s got to go back into the wilderness and eat his little food that he does, wink wink, and come back when he’s a big strong boy to fight The Gypsy King.”

Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk: Brit appears to make crazy PEDs claim about Ukrainian

“You’ve let a little steroid man come up from middleweight and sit above you and take all your belts.”

Tyson Fury baselessly accused one of the greatest rivals to his boxing crown of taking steroids

 

[mozfonky]

I mentioned that Usyk's been tested by everybody for the last 16+ years. Nobody's actually (directly) accused him of using PEDs in this thread. Tyson Fury and his dad did previously. What made it funny was that Tyson had popped for nandrolone in the past. The doping allegations were made back in 2022/2023 before Usyk fought Fury.

“He’s got to go back into the wilderness and eat his little food that he does, wink wink, and come back when he’s a big strong boy to fight The Gypsy King.”

Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk: Brit appears to make crazy PEDs claim about Ukrainian

“You’ve let a little steroid man come up from middleweight and sit above you and take all your belts.”

Tyson Fury baselessly accused one of the greatest rivals to his boxing crown of taking steroids

projection, and how stupid of someone who was caught to accuse anyone. I don't know about Fury sometimes.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

projection, and how stupid of someone who was caught to accuse anyone. I don't know about Fury sometimes.

It is projection and hypocritical coming from him. He was also caught with coke in his system but I dismiss that. While it is a powerful stimulant Fury was using it recreationally in his party phase. On the other hand, nandrolone is a powerful anabolic steroid. Very few boxers have been caught using it. It's one of the worst PEDs you could stack or cycle if you want to avoid getting busted.

 

[Chaotic Progressor]

yup, what a clever name to throw off those pesky writers and folk who might look into his alleged use.

The stupidity is comical. Why not just make up a totally different name lmao, call yaself John Meadows or some shit.

 

[Jonny Ninja]

Furys problem is he can’t fight at the pace he fought at for the few rounds he won (4-6) but usyk can. If tyson wins it’s by earlyish tko. If he doesn’t get him out of there he’ll either lose on points again or get ko’d.

Imo his best option is to look fir they early KO, even though it’s risky! Its his best chance of winning but he obviously fucks himself for the latter rounds if it doesn’t work. The alternative for fury is losing on points. Usyk makes his opponents work far harder than they want to with constant pressure so it me no surprise fury won hardly any rounds in the second half of the fight. That is unlikely to change in the rematch

On a separate note I have never known a British fighter be so unpopular in a world title fight. I literally know 1 person supporting fury at the weekend, everyone wants usyk to win. That is unheard of for us brits

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Furys problem is he can’t fight at the pace he fought at for the few rounds he won (4-6) but usyk can. If tyson wins it’s by earlyish tko. If he doesn’t get him out of there he’ll either lose on points again or get ko’d.

Imo his best option is to look fir they early KO, even though it’s risky! Its his best chance of winning but he obviously fucks himself for the latter rounds if it doesn’t work. The alternative for fury is losing on points. Usyk makes his opponents work far harder than they want to with constant pressure so it me no surprise fury won hardly any rounds in the second half of the fight. That is unlikely to change in the rematch

On a separate note I have never known a British fighter be so unpopular in a world title fight. I literally know 1 person supporting fury at the weekend, everyone wants usyk to win. That is unheard of for us brits

That's basically how I see it. He might as well just risk going for it early. Worst case scenario he loses to Usyk again. I'd rather see him mix it up, that is fight & box at times, but that's probably not going to happen since he's coming in like 12+ pounds heavier. He wouldn't even throw a single punch at the open workouts. Strange behavior.

 

[shadowmanifold]

That's basically how I see it. He might as well just risk going for it early. Worst case scenario he loses to Usyk again. I'd rather see him mix it up, that is fight & box at times, but that's probably not going to happen since he's coming in like 12+ pounds heavier. He wouldn't even throw a single punch at the open workouts. Strange behavior.

I must admit I haven't even watched him workout for this fight. 12lbs heavier might be good though. Coming in even trimmer I don't think would have worked. I would like to see him go for it too and if he goes out on his shield, so be it. Finishing Usyk seems such a tall task though.

I lost a few people a decent amount of money talking up what a great bet Fury was the first fight but didn't bet the fight myself. I am in on Usyk at -155, seems like an incredible bet here. Plus I will get to talk shit to these people about how they bet on the wrong guy if I win.

 

[treelo]

Furys problem is he can’t fight at the pace he fought at for the few rounds he won (4-6) but usyk can. If tyson wins it’s by earlyish tko. If he doesn’t get him out of there he’ll either lose on points again or get ko’d.

Imo his best option is to look fir they early KO, even though it’s risky! Its his best chance of winning but he obviously fucks himself for the latter rounds if it doesn’t work. The alternative for fury is losing on points. Usyk makes his opponents work far harder than they want to with constant pressure so it me no surprise fury won hardly any rounds in the second half of the fight. That is unlikely to change in the rematch

On a separate note I have never known a British fighter be so unpopular in a world title fight. I literally know 1 person supporting fury at the weekend, everyone wants usyk to win. That is unheard of for us brits

i dont think it helps that Usyk is such a likeable fella as well ,but yeah, Fury and his crew seem to think they have the right to be loved by the public, and while many do have a lot of sympathy for Tyson he has also done a lot of shady stupid shit to make people dislike him

 

[mozfonky]

i dont think it helps that Usyk is such a likeable fella as well ,but yeah, Fury and his crew seem to think they have the right to be loved by the public, and while many do have a lot of sympathy for Tyson he has also done a lot of shady stupid shit to make people dislike him

Fury's an ok guy as a person, I like him and he has put on some shows but he's just a big goof, don't want to say much more because of the rules but suffice to say, he's squandered alot in an era where he didn't have to squander anything, he could have had a couple dozen fights by now instead of what 7 or 8 since he beat klitchko? He was never going to be a super great fighter but he was a good showman and a good mouthpiece and a true character from a controversial culture. He made it further than any of the other shit talking gypsies and maybe he's better than any of them, I dunno. Some of 'em look pretty mean to me.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

I must admit I haven't even watched him workout for this fight. 12lbs heavier might be good though. Coming in even trimmer I don't think would have worked. I would like to see him go for it too and if he goes out on his shield, so be it. Finishing Usyk seems such a tall task though.

I lost a few people a decent amount of money talking up what a great bet Fury was the first fight but didn't bet the fight myself. I am in on Usyk at -155, seems like an incredible bet here. Plus I will get to talk shit to these people about how they bet on the wrong guy if I win.

Fury didn't show us anything at his new weight it's all been kept secretive. When he showed up at the open workouts he put on a pair of gloves and then immediately took them off. Never threw a punch or did anything in the ring. It's been rumored that he'll be about a stone heavier. So, 10-12 lbs is just an educated guess. It could be less or more than that. We'll know tomorrow what he actually weighs and the day after whether it helped him or not. Finishing Usyk is a very tall task. So far nobody's been able to do it. He was once "stopped" by Korobov on the mercy rule in the amateurs only a couple years after he started boxing but that wasn't a proper stoppage. In the points scoring era of amateur boxing if you were getting outclassed badly, you were more than 20 points behind, then the ref would automatically stop the contest whether you were hurt or not. That 2006 ''stoppage" is the only one Usyk has ever suffered.

I'm not betting on this fight. Heavyweight boxing is too unpredictable as it is and you never know which Fury is going to show up. He's not consistent. I could put money on both sides but I just think that Usyk will likely find a way to win again. Maybe another close fight but I wouldn't rule out a stoppage by either man. That's what both will be gunning for.

 

[treelo]

i think i have only ever bet on about 5 things in my entire life

its just a proper mugs game, i dont really understand gambling or why anyone would do it, one of my gambles was only small and i bet on Michael Gomez to knock out Alex Arthur and picked a few rounds....that was a giant high when it came in, i can see why people get sucked into that life

 

[mozfonky]

i think i have only ever bet on about 5 things in my entire life

its just a proper mugs game, i dont really understand gambling or why anyone would do it, one of my gambles was only small and i bet on Michael Gomez to knock out Alex Arthur and picked a few rounds....that was a giant high when it came in, i can see why people get sucked into that life

told everyone I knew to bet on mayweather-mcgregor. that was once in a lifetime.