Social Former President Jimmy Carter dies at 100

He said this “Ensure that work will always be more profitable than welfare, and that a private or non-subsidized public job will always be more profitable than a special federally-funded public service job.” which is important to me. I am all for helping people out that work and work should always be much more profitable than welfare.

But his plan was to increase welfare by 2.8 billion, which back then was a huge amount. But he was wrong in his calculation and the increase would have been for a lot more.

He also made food stamps an entitlement. People need to eat, but the system is badly abused and has been for a long ass time. When I go to the store around the beginning of the month, the store is flooded with people getting their welfare and buying all kinds of shit. I watched one woman whip out her ebt card and pay $300 on shiity fat people food and soda-at least they can’t buy alcohol with it to my understanding. But it suck’s to see people getting that free ride while I have to pay for our food with our own money when things are so fucking expensive right now and we live behind our means, which is our fault living in a big ass expensive house, but it still angers me to see the store filed with people other free ride and store shelves get ravaged.

“Prior to 1977, people on public assistance had to pay for discounted food stamps, but that all changed when Carter signed the Food and Agriculture Act of 1977. The legislation made food stamps an entitlement, not a reduced-price purchase, and also expanded the program to new recipients.

I am trying to find out how many people got welfare under Carter, but I am finding it difficult to find. Maybe his proposals to increase welfare(but don’t actually pass congress) is what I was thinking of. H


https://www.heritage.org/welfare/report/cost-estimates-the-carter-welfare-reform-proposal
Not really interested in reviving a dispute about a bill that didn't get voted on from half a century ago. Broader point here is that the characterization of him as initiating changes to welfare is inaccurate, and he was very market-oriented and moderate in general.
 
When I think of welfare queens, I think of all kinds of people. I often dealt with a lady that lived in one of the most expensive areas in my city and she drove a Mercedes and still got welfare because she didn’t work. It always made me sick to deal with her because she was an alcoholic shitbag. I found her ebt card one day and returned it to her and it shocked me that she could get it sent to her address in the expensive ass area she lived. I picture welfare queens as both black and white and men as well. The system is badly abused and it pisses me off because I have two jobs right now and welfare queens have none and get that free ride and have babies to increase their amount. And they’re shittty parents and usually have multiple fathers to their kids and the fathers aren’t involved in raising the kids. I know of shitbags that had their daycare paid for(several at my kids’ daycare that cost me $17k/year and they paid nothing) and yet they still didn’t work.

And the “Joe down economics” was supposed to say trickle down, but autocorrect fucked me yet again.
I agree with this. This is what angered me about PPP loans and how poorly they were managed under draft dodger. Uber rich got millions forgiven and there were no checks or balances to ensure they were being used appropriately. It angers me that I was paying for rich people’s payroll meanwhile their employees were already working remote and Covid did not disrupt their day to day operations i.e. billionaire Doug burgum and his kilbourne group real estate business. I’d rather the money go to people that could actually use it or back in taxpayers pocket. What a shit show.
 
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I agree with this. This is what angered me about PPP loans and how poorly they were managed under draft dodger. Uber rich got millions forgiven and there were no checks or balances to ensure they were being used appropriately. It angers me that I was paying for rich people’s payroll meanwhile their employees were already working remote and Covid did not disrupt their day to day operations i.e. billionaire Doug burgum and his kilbourne group real estate business. I’d rather the money go to people that could actually use it or back in taxpayers pocket. What a shit show.

Yeah, I hate the uber rich fucks they continue to fuck the middle class. Middle class is everyone’s playthings fucked on both ends by the poor welfare queens taking our taxes while the rich pay little in taxes and their wealth somehow always keeps rising
 
Yeah, I hate the uber rich fucks they continue to fuck the middle class. Middle class is everyone’s playthings fucked on both ends by the poor welfare queens taking our taxes while the rich pay little in taxes and their wealth somehow always keeps rising

The poor have no socio-economic or political power.
 
Jimmy Carter may have had some jokes about his presidency, but there are no jokes about his ability, care, and longevity. Considered by even his rivals to be one of the nicest presidents to ever live, I think America has lost a great man today.

Rest in peace, Jimmy.
Read the book “Untamed” if you get a chance. It’s a book about a woman who almost single-handedly preserved most of Cumberland Island as wilderness, preventing commercial development and Jimmy Carter played an important role. It’s an amazing place to visit. Carter does seem like he was a genuinely good human being. RIP.
 
You mean Nixon's price controls. As usual you might have a point about poorly executed policies if your partisanship didn't jump put on front of you.


Carter arguably kept these policies going too long, but successfully got rid of then in 1980. Didnt stop Republicans for blaming him for them, though.

Keep in mind these are right wing rags I'm referencing here, just to demonstrate how deep in an information silo you are:

"Per my estimation, the most dangerous and damaging thing Nixon ever did to win reelection was not Watergate. Rather, it was his decision to blow up the Bretton Woods agreement unilaterally to finance an American expansion painted by the press as prosperity. In one weekend and without diplomatic discussion, Nixon took the world off of the gold standard — valued at $35 per ounce of gold since after World War II — to devalue the U.S. dollar intentionally. Nixon, who had already browbeaten his handpicked Federal Reserve chairman into submission and lax monetary policy, decided to enact disastrous wage and price controls, sacrificing price stability at the altar of ephemeral “full employment.” All in all, the money supply was expanding at twice the rate of real economic expansion under Nixon’s first term.

Carter was objectively not a good president, but he absolutely reversed one of Nixon’s crucial wrongs and ultimately set the economy on the course for regaining price stability. Despite making the same early mistake of believing the Fed needed to keep rates low to boost employment, Carter poached Fed Chairman G. William Miller to run the Treasury Department and put Paul Volcker, a known monetarist who butted heads with the expansionists of the Nixon administration, at the head of the central bank. Unlike Nixon, Carter put a chairman in place who would lead the Fed as an independent body hellbent on crushing inflation, even at the cost of Carter’s reelection."



As for weak on foreign policy, sure if you consider Reagan's people negotiating the release of the Iran hostages for after the election (treason) to be Carter's weakness.

But I dont blame you. MAGAtardation tends to blind people to History such that they have backwards information in their heads. Like the idea that Carter was some kind of leftist as a President. The fact is he didnt become truly exemplary of leftism until after he left office:


Carter was handed a shit sandwich by previous admins; he had to deal with the aftermath of Vietnam and all the social & economic problems it caused, then throw in the Arab oil embargo, Iranian revolution, 3 mile island and he had his plate full to say the least. IMO his big mistake was not sticking the blame where it belonged with regards to the problems he inherited from past administrations, when he failed to completely fix them all the blame came down on him instead of the people who were actually responsible for them.

History isn't kind to Mr. Carter right now, but I think he'll be seen as a much better President when my kids are my age.
 
Wow, Scott Jennings is no chill. The look of the other guest as he talks cracks me up. Each point Scott makes, the other guys expression is like, “oof, that will be a hard one to counter”.

 
A fun look into the future, to see how they're also going to retcon Scranton Joe when he shuffles off to his motral coil.

Biden’s legacy will be of incompetence and corruption

Carter was a solid guy, but a terrible president who was over his head with the economy and foreign policy. As I mentioned previously, he had approval ratings in the 20’s.

The mood in the US changed instantly when Reagan took over

And no president has won an election in such a massive landslide than Reagan in 84

Carter’s term was a dark spot of gloom and depression for many Americans

He projected weakness in Foriegn policy, similar to Biden (“Don’t, Don’t”) lol…

He got pushed around by OPEC and his greatest failure were the hostages in Iran. Unlike many trying to create revisionist history, I was in grade school in 1980

 
Lol, that moment when History becomes "revisionist History" because it dispels the narrative put forth by someone's preferred political party
 
A fun look into the future, to see how they're also going to retcon Scranton Joe when he shuffles off to his motral coil.

I look forward to the articles where dementia Joe is 100 years old and headlines are that he is voting for the AOC - Ro Khanna ticket over the reelection of Vance - Don Jr
 
Lol, that moment when History becomes "revisionist History" because it dispels the narrative put forth by someone's preferred political party

So his shit approval ratings were fantasy?

lol….

Nice guy, terrible president
 
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My man, I am very little concerned about the single Mother living with a drug dealer compared to how much we are robbed of corporate welfare. You want to recover welfare gotten under fraudulent circumstances? You go after guys like Brett Favre, or anyone like Musk who took Federal subsidies to the tune of millions and didn't deliver on multiple layers of promised product.

My whole point is that this is a classist argument formed by political propaganda when the agenda was specifically to funnel the money upward. I honestly couldn't give a sh*t less about old fat trailer trash women using Medicaid or getting $500 check:



If it can be proven they are misusing welfare, then fine. But the moment it costs more money to find them than it recovers, it should be a non-starter for anyone who is ACTUALLY fiscally conservative. Because the fact is that cutting the programs does far more damage to the economy.


That movie gutted me. I had no idea what it was about and went in blind, expecting the standard uplifting sports narrative, and left almost comatose.

I spent years volunteering for a local food bank. I delivered food to the elderly and infirm, and met a lot of people on the road who were neither but had managed to game the system.

I objected to the center director, and he told me not to worry about it. He said if you make it easy for people to get free food there were always going to be people taking advantage, but if you make it hard people who need would go without, and that was the last thing we wanted. Besides, there are worse things than giving free food to someone desperate enough to scam for it.

That one conversation really changed the way I see the world.
 
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