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Crime Former KGB Chief Claims Trump Recruited Under Codename 'Krasnov" in 1987

HOLA said:
Michael Morell (former CIA director), Michael Hayden (former head of both CIA and NSA), James Clapper (former National Intel director), John Brennan (former CIA director) and Dan Coats (Trump’s own director of national intel) have all either explicitly stated or at least very heavily implied Trump is a Russian asset. These are not exactly libtard conspiracy theorists.

And Russia and Trump have largely accomplished this by operating within the law, not by breaking it. America is a country where massive amounts of money can be laundered through real estate, anonymously, at virtually 0 risk, after all.
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And to think, all they had to do to stop him was not support trannies, protect the border and not run a decrepit dead man for president
 
And Sleepy Joe Biden runs an international crime syndicate. Aren’t CT’s fun?




Trump does simp for his hero Putin, though, that’s obvious.
 
Hog-train said:
What actual Russian spies were proven to have worked with Trump? Name them.

You said David Bogatin was the spy. He's Russian mob - not spy.



Of course I'm aware. In Russia, the mafia is essentially a state actor. That doesn't mean Trump knowingly worked with Russian spies.

This is the leap of logic you're making. Russian mafia were buying real estate from Trump. Russian mafia has known ties to the KGB. Therefore, Trump is working with spies!



The fact of the matter is, the Soviet Union was disintegrating in the 80's. Hundreds of billions of dollars in capital flight was coming from Russian oligarchs, Communist party members and the mob. They were using shell companies to launder money everywhere.

A lot of that went through real estate transactions paid all in cash. Trump of course will be caught up in that and would accept cash for real estate deals.

But that was the case with a ton of other large NY real estate tycoons and businessmen in other fields too. You're trying to conflate that with Trump being some kind of special spy case where they solely cultivated him when it was super common to do deals with the tons of money flowing out of the Soviet Union.

And of course, the Soviet Union wanted to leverage some of these business dealings with American businessman into some kind of political advantage. But where's the proof Trump specifically was compromised? There is none. It's all pure speculation and trying to do guilt by association.



Bogatins real estate purchase was in 1983-1984. Trump visited Moscow in 1987 when Bogatin was in jail. There's zero evidence they're related at all.



The fact of the matter is Mueller found he didn't actively collude or conspired with the Russians.

And to say his business dealings are related to his presidency now makes zero sense because the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991. Any "spy influence" would have completely evaporated.



You guys are the ones doing mental gymnastics trying so hard to pin a conspiracy on him when there's no ACTUAL proof. The FBI did a intensive investigation and could not find evidence. Everything is innuendo and speculation.

And these real estate deals were in 1987. So any politician can't have business dealings in their past? Kind of a ridiculous standard.

And literally every single politician has conflicts of interest and corrupt too. That's what lobbying is. Politicians are supposed to serve the people, but they actually serve their donors who are taking advantage of the people.
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Lmao talking about mental gymnastics while writing a post like this. That's cute.

I never once said Trump was knowingly doing anything. I said he was a mark that paid off beyond Russia's wildest expectations.

This is their approach to subversion of US businessmen.

Do you understand asset doesn't mean agent?

Can you show me one Presidential candidate that did over thousand of real estate deals with an international criminal organization?
 
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Rational Poster said:
Did you miss the part where I said repeatedly that he did business deals, not just with Russian spies, but Russian gangsters? And it wasn't just a one off, but over 1000 times since the 1980s?

Are you unaware are the close relations between the Russian intelligence services and Russian criminal organizations? They're practically the same.

I'm not making any tenuous connections. We know Trump's businesses have dealt with Russian criminals for over 40 years. We know Russian criminal enterprises have been operating out of his properties and multiple properties have been seized over the decades. We know after his business dealings with Bogatin he went to Moscow during the height of the cold war.

I never claimed he was some Manchurian candidate, just a stupid mark that the Russians influenced for their own gain that ended up paying off big time. I'm not sure how Trump doing business with known Russian gangsters for decades is somehow reasonable to you.
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Obama and Hillary sold them uranium.

www.forbes.com

Russian Uranium One Deal And Hillary Clinton In The News Again

Senator Chuck Grassley (R- IA) wants to resurrect the sale of Uranium One to Russia that occurred under Hillary Clinton when she was Secretary of State, and thinks something fishy is going on with the FBI and one of their former contractors. But this deal never was much of a scandal.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com
 
ColemanwastheGOAT said:
Oh that didn't happen? Oh OK.
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What does a state sanctioned business deal approved by a bipartisan commission have anything to do with Trump doing private real estate deals with Russian gangsters and spies and their shell companies for decades?

No one US politician had any ownership stake in Uranium One. You're just really dumb.
 
Story checks out...Trump is siding with America's enemy (Russia) over its allies...shits plain as day...

Don't pay attention to what the trump administration says (pure bullshit) but what they do....pure traitors
 
Hog-train said:
WTH are you talking about. Kash Patel has nothing to do with this and he was just appointed.

FBI special prosecutor Robert Mueller investigated Trump in 2017-2019 and found no links to Russia and Trump collusion.

And this thread is about Russian spies and claims that Trump is compromised by them. Whether you think his appointments are incompetent are irrelevant to what we're talking about here.
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This part
Hog-train said:
FBI special prosecutor Robert Mueller investigated Trump in 2017-2019 and found no links to Russia and Trump collusion.
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Isn’t true.
Mueller found plenty of links between the two. What he couldn’t prove is that the Trump campaign actively planned with Russia to do illegal acts, as opposed to merely being in communication with Russia about Russia doing illegal acts, and then being the beneficiary of those acts.
 
Rational Poster said:
Lmao talking about mental gymnastics while writing a post like this. That's cute.

I never once said Trump was knowingly doing anything. I said he was a mark that paid off beyond Russia's wildest expectations.

This is their approach to subversion of US businessmen.

Do you understand asset doesn't mean agent?

Can you show me one Presidential candidate that did over thousand of real estate deals with an international criminal organization?
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Do you understand cultivating an asset through business dealings in the 80's have no relevance because the Soviet Union fell in 1991? Their entire KGB spy apparatus was literally dissolved in Dec of 1991.
 
Hog-train said:
Do you understand cultivating an asset through business dealings in the 80's have no relevance because the Soviet Union fell in 1991? Their entire KGB spy apparatus was literally dissolved in Dec of 1991.
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Lmao, that's so incredibly naive.

Almost every part of Putin's government is run by former KGB agents. Putin is former KGB.

Trump has a few meetings with Putin and he's acting like Ramsay Bolton just cut his dick off.
 
ColemanwastheGOAT said:
Hillary took bribes from them to facilitate the deal.
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I see people still don’t understand Uranium One either.
Only Obama (POTUS) could go forward with or nix the deal. I don’t think Hillary even signed off in it IIRC, it was the Deputy Sec of State.
 
All Russia had to do is find the right guy who likes to get pissed on, put their propaganda farms to work, and they knew it is easy to manipulate the masses with hits of rage porn dopamine.
 
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