Florida stopped doing background checks for conceal carry permits for a year.

It should be noted:

The sky didn't fall, and the streets didn't run red with the blood of the innocent, just because there was a few extra Concealed Carry Permits out there.

An armed populace without strict government oversight isn't nearly as big a deal as the civilian disarmament complex would have you believe. This instance proves it.
 
From the NRA:

"Background checks were done through FCIC (Florida Criminal Information Computer system) and NCIC (National Criminal Information Computer system -- the national FBI fingerprint data base) and they also did a NICS check (National Instant Check System), which is the name-based background check system.

The NICS system is the same system used by retail firearms dealers to do background checks when a person buys a firearm.

ALL THREE BACKGROUND CHECKS WERE DONE.

During the time the employee failed to do her job, approximately 350,000 applicants for carry licenses were processed. Of those 350,000, 365 had a disqualifier based on the NICS background check.

The employee should have uploaded those 365 into the internal computer system to stop the processing of those applications. She did not. So those 365 applicants got their licenses anyhow.

Although they got their licenses to CARRY firearms, they still would not have been allowed to purchase a firearm from a firearms dealer because the same NICS background check would have been performed by a dealer and would have stopped them from purchasing a firearm.

A license to carry does not exempt a person from the background check required when you purchase a firearm. The license ONLY exempts a license holder from the 3-day waiting period.

When the Division discovered the problem, the employee was let go. The Division then ran new background checks on all 365 applicants who initially had NICS name-based disqualifiers. Of those 365, 74 were cleared and 291 still had disqualifiers, so their licenses to carry firearms were immediately suspended."
 
Farmer Br0wn said:
It should be noted:

The sky didn't fall, and the streets didn't run red with the blood of the innocent, just because there was a few extra Concealed Carry Permits out there.

An armed populace without strict government oversight isn't nearly as big a deal as the civilian disarmament complex would have you believe. This instance proves it.
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oldshadow said:
So you didnt read the links and this was the best you could come up with.
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Dude people like you are not going to defeat the US Police and Armed Forces. I know it's a painful admission but I think you can come to terms with it in time.

If your argument is now the police and armed forces are going to come over to our side, that isn't going to happen either but it's not really an argument for gun ownership any more.

Like that guy was saying why don't you psychos just come out and admit you think private citizens should be allowed artillery and napalm bombs and all that sh*t? Just like be honest about it.
 
Ghost in the Dark said:
Dude people like you are not going to defeat the US Police and Armed Forces. I know it's a painful admission but I think you can come to terms with it in time.

If your argument is now the police and armed forces are going to come over to our side, that isn't going to happen either but it's not really an argument for gun ownership any more.

Like that guy was saying why don't you psychos just come out and admit you think private citizens should be allowed artillery and napalm bombs and all that sh*t? Just like be honest about it.
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And people like you think it's all out war or nothing.

And you still didn't read the link .
 
Ghost in the Dark said:
Dude people like you are not going to defeat the US Police and Armed Forces. I know it's a painful admission but I think you can come to terms with it in time.

If your argument is now the police and armed forces are going to come over to our side, that isn't going to happen either but it's not really an argument for gun ownership any more.

Like that guy was saying why don't you psychos just come out and admit you think private citizens should be allowed artillery and napalm bombs and all that sh*t? Just like be honest about it.
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Again, you have no idea what you're writing on.
 
oldshadow said:
Same old bull shit.
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lets play a game. Name A SINGLE INSTANCE in the entirety of American History, when US federal/government forces, decided en masse to NOT shoot, stop, arrest, or otherwise kill their fellow americans because of whatever reason. Ill start us off with some times the government boys absolutely kicked the shit out of civilian and traitor ass

-The Civil War. This is the big one. The Union army NEVER became smaller than the Confederate one. Union forces had zero issue moving into rebel territory and burning pillaging and otherwising setting those fools straight
-Kent massacre. Bunch of NG guys faced with peaceful protesting americans? fuck em. open fire.
-Waco. Yeah, whole lotta 'defections' from the FBI and ATF when confronted with those freedom lovers. oh wait no, burned the fuckers.
-Ruby Ridge. All american grit versus FBI snipers. guess who lost. Federal forces scoreboarding you patriots all through the 90's.
-Desegregation. Yeah, all those good ole boy southern troops really went over to the other side when the thought of negroes in white schools came about. No, they totally defended and supported local and federal government.
-Bonus Army. Bunch of vets want whats promised to them? fuck em. Bring in the army and send them home packing.
-Homestead strike. little obscure, but its mostly a workers rights thing. State militia rolls in. tells strikers to STFU and GBTW....with bullets. Basically all of the Coal Wars and various labor disputes from the 1890's through to about 1920 were just examples of pissed off americans demanding rights from abusive local governments and businesses, and getting their shit sorted by militia and national guardsmen

You'd be HARD pressed to expect a sizeable portion of the US military to turncoat the government and side with what would inevitably become a hodgepodge of various nationalist/white supremacist groups in the event open revolt broke out. dont forget that almost half the military is not 'white'. So they arent going to run off into the woods with a bunch of red state militia boys to play 'confederate'
 
Ghost in the Dark said:
Dude people like you are not going to defeat the US Police and Armed Forces. I know it's a painful admission but I think you can come to terms with it in time.

If your argument is now the police and armed forces are going to come over to our side, that isn't going to happen either but it's not really an argument for gun ownership any more.

Like that guy was saying why don't you psychos just come out and admit you think private citizens should be allowed artillery and napalm bombs and all that sh*t? Just like be honest about it.
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Every Green Beret ever would disagree with you. Unconventional warfare in the context of guerilla warfare is the principle mission of US Army Special Forces.

Also, like @oldshadow said, you're assuming that the military and police forces across the US would say, "Yeah, the end of the 2A is a good thing. We are going to go along with this and support the government in disarming people, despite many of us being private weapon owners ourselves." You feel confident in that assertion?
 
Greoric said:
Where's the threat to public safety? Do people that know they wouldn't pass a background check typically submit themselves to one?
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RerouteToRemain said:
Complete non issue/story imo.

I would say nearly all people submitting to that and knowing what goes along with it (picture id, finger prints, supposed to have a background check, etc) is probably not someone to worry about.

In my state and a few others you don't need a ccw license to conceal carry.

To add to this criminals don't give a fuck about the law and would carry anyway.
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From the article in the OP:

"Upon discovery of this former employee's negligence in not conducting the further review required on 365 applications, we immediately completed full background checks on those 365 applications, which resulted in 291 revocations," Putnam said in the statement. "The former employee was both deceitful and negligent, and we immediately launched an investigation and implemented safeguards to ensure this never happens again."​
 
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