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OnionKnight86 said:


He finally released a part 2

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All those Smash players throwing controllers, lol. I remember the Leffen one, but at least he gave his opponent props before he raged.

Oh and:

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Like every other time a KoF chapter was released, i'm REALLY trying to like KoF15 (downloaded the beta), but seems i just can't

I even like the new art style and the cast selection has been pretty decent so far, but i just can't get into it

SNK just lost me when they left Fatal Fury apparently

SamSho still good though, aside shitty DLC characters last one has been pretty nice
 
Bacco said:
Like every other time a KoF chapter was released, i'm REALLY trying to like KoF15 (downloaded the beta), but seems i just can't

I even like the new art style and the cast selection has been pretty decent so far, but i just can't get into it

SNK just lost me when they left Fatal Fury apparently

SamSho still good though, aside shitty DLC characters last one has been pretty nice
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SamSho died in about a week due to the shitty netcode. A damn shame since it was a pretty good game.

What don't you like about KOF? Gameplay? Controls?

Bacco said:
SFV Luke showcase this 23
https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2021/nov/17/luke-showcase-fall-update-sf5ce/
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I wish I could be interested, but unlike the new characters in other fighting games, I just roll my eyes at Luke.
 
Crimson Fury said:
SamSho died in about a week due to the shitty netcode. A damn shame since it was a pretty good game.

What don't you like about KOF? Gameplay? Controls?
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Yeah shame, too bad FG today are so influenced by online and their ability to stay relevant because otherwise people will fly to next cool shit.
Outside some DLC seems a game made with lot of love for the series style

On KoF chara design is first barrier, ever been
SNK pushed on the side old school capcom-style badasses like Terry Bogard and Ryo Sakazaki of FF/AoF era the day they felt in love with skinny jpop guys... and the more KoF goes on the further it goes

To be clear there's design coeherence in most of what they do (outside Shun'ei/Meitenkun wich are just terrible lol) and i truly respect that, but it's simply not for me

There are plenty of SNK characters that i consider chara design masterpieces, but reality is 9/10 of them are from the past (Bandeiras and Antonov are recent and pretty good though)

Next also animation/flow wich feel someway "too light"(?) at least to me that i'm used to capcom's much heavier impacts feel. Again, stylistic choice and tastes

But on reality is a good thing, KoF fans deserve to keep have KoF games that keep that style/vibes alive.
As SF guy would have been a tragedy if SFV took a MK style turn (wich almost happened lol), basically receive dog crap instead chocolate to me
So yes, just keep KoF KoF

Controls are good, i like also the huge combo potential. Usually when i buy a new KoF i enjoy first days discovering combos and tricks, but for whatever reason i quickly lose interest

Still Capcom vs SNK 3 remain my wet dream fight game
Just let me pick the cast

PS: shame Garou MotW never had a sequel, they even had chosen the cast
http://segabits.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Garou-2.jpg

Crimson Fury said:
I wish I could be interested, but unlike the new characters in other fighting games, I just roll my eyes at Luke.
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Tbh i don't dislike Luke design at all, it make sense within SF style, it's just bit overdone
Biggest issue with SF art is that people that don't like SF style (wich include lot of SF players lol) are unlikely to like them... but tbh i prefer capcom to stick with style coherence over win new fans

Example in the fgc SFV new characters have rep of be bland and uninspired, but reality is most of them make perfect sense within SF universe
Then SFV ingame 3d artstyle is terrible (it's also because capcom hired external modellers that don't understood/care about the concept), but this is another story
 
Bacco said:
Yeah shame, too bad FG today are so influenced by online and their ability to stay relevant because otherwise people will fly to next cool shit.
Outside some DLC seems a game made with lot of love for the series style

On KoF chara design is first barrier, ever been
SNK pushed on the side old school capcom-style badasses like Terry Bogard and Ryo Sakazaki of FF/AoF era the day they felt in love with skinny jpop guys... and the more KoF goes on the further it goes

To be clear there's design coeherence in most of what they do (outside Shun'ei/Meitenkun wich are just terrible lol) and i truly respect that, but it's simply not for me

There are plenty of SNK characters that i consider chara design masterpieces, but reality is 9/10 of them are from the past (Bandeiras and Antonov are recent and pretty good though)

Next also animation/flow wich feel someway "too light"(?) at least to me that i'm used to capcom's much heavier impacts feel. Again, stylistic choice and tastes

But on reality is a good thing, KoF fans deserve to keep have KoF games that keep that style/vibes alive.
As SF guy would have been a tragedy if SFV took a MK style turn (wich almost happened lol), basically receive dog crap instead chocolate to me
So yes, just keep KoF KoF

Controls are good, i like also the huge combo potential. Usually when i buy a new KoF i enjoy first days discovering combos and tricks, but for whatever reason i quickly lose interest

Still Capcom vs SNK 3 remain my wet dream fight game
Just let me pick the cast

PS: shame Garou MotW never had a sequel, they even had chosen the cast
http://segabits.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Garou-2.jpg


Tbh i don't dislike Luke design at all, it make sense within SF style, it's just bit overdone
Biggest issue with SF art is that people that don't like SF style (wich include lot of SF players lol) are unlikely to like them... but tbh i prefer capcom to stick with style coherence over win new fans

Example in the fgc SFV new characters have rep of be bland and uninspired, but reality is most of them make perfect sense within SF universe
Then SFV ingame 3d artstyle is terrible (it's also because capcom hired external modellers that don't understood/care about the concept), but this is another story
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Online should be good at this point. It's not fun playing underwater, lol.

I also prefer the older character designs and considering the fact that Terry appeared in Smash, it's not just us. Ryo doesn't seem to get the respect he deservers even in KOF Destiny.

I never liked Ash, Duo Lon, Bao, and Shun'ei and Meitenkun are just ridiculous. I didn't care for many of the new faces in KOF XIV besides Bandeiras and Nelson. I'm really liking Dolores and I think she might be one of my mains. Chris was never one of my favorites, but he's really fun here.

Maybe it's the aggressive gameplay in KOF that you're not a fan of?

I've always wondered how that Muay Thai girl would play if there was a Garou sequel.

Although SFV isn't my favorite in the series, I actually like a lot of the new characters, more than SFIV. Laura, Menat, G, Zeku, and Kolin. I even like Abigail because he's just fun, heh.
 
Crimson Fury said:
Maybe it's the aggressive gameplay in KOF that you're not a fan of?
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No, i'm fine with that
It's more that i end up ever play characters that i played for decades like Joe, Terry, Ralph and Geese, and new ones fails to catch my interest... be it design or moveset
KoF gameplay itself is fine, not my fav as taste, but still pretty enjoyable

Crimson Fury said:
I've always wondered how that Muay Thai girl would play if there was a Garou sequel.
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Iirc she was supposed to be a disciple of Joe, so i guess she would have variants of his moves, like Kim's sons in same game

Even if i would have prefered Joe himself (redesigned like tthey did with Terry) as he's my fav SNK character since FF days lol

Crimson Fury said:
Although SFV isn't my favorite in the series, I actually like a lot of the new characters, more than SFIV. Laura, Menat, G, Zeku, and Kolin. I even like Abigail because he's just fun, heh.
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I think they did overall very good job with SFV newcomers, i like basically every new character aside Kage, Seth, Ed and Falke.
Everybody else ever been from great to at least worthy the slot to me

SF4 was less "consistent" at that, but i must admit it had some higher peaks for my taste, at least 3:
Juri has been the taekwondo korean char SF needed for decades, easily the most recognizable new char since SF3 days
Gouken was ridicolous well designed char, even i that wish we have only Ryu and Ken from that school (yes, not even Akuma) had to admit the character was close to perfect as you can get, from chara design to moveset and playstyle dude just played his role perfect
Third is Abel... i know lot find him boring, but was just perfectly executed concept. Plus as Fedor fan see Fedor tribute in SF was just automatic win. Probably the char i'm most pissed to not have in SFV, maybe after just Fei Long... both could have do awesome shit with the V-system
 
Bacco said:
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Of course they made it easy like every other fighting game these days. I hope the input for a DP in the next SF is down+punch, lol. Still, looks fun.

BTW, I'm not sure if that Muay Thai girl in Garou 2 would fight like Joe. Look at Hokutomaru compared to Andy and Mai.
 
Crimson Fury said:
BTW, I'm not sure if that Muay Thai girl in Garou 2 would fight like Joe. Look at Hokutomaru compared to Andy and Mai.
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Yeah, but in Garou it's more common the disciple just to be more like a variation of the master, see Kim's sons, Marco Rodrigues, Rock Howard

I think they would have took some of Joe's trademark stuff like his tiger kick and some other done bit differently, like example she does hurricanes too, but using kicks instead punches

Surely she would not have played exactly the same, but i guess would have been another case where the master heavy influence the style
 
Bacco said:
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This looks awesome. ArcSys games look the best imo. They kind of use the same artstyle for a lot of their games but the animations and everything look so good that it doesn't bother me that they don't really deviate too much from what they're good at.

I'm thinking maybe there's some auto-combo action going on based on that trailer, purely a guess but it kinda gives those vibes. I'm not a fan of auto-combos so I hope I'm wrong but either way I am planning on getting this game barring some horrible information about it comes out.
 
Minnja said:
This looks awesome. ArcSys games look the best imo. They kind of use the same artstyle for a lot of their games but the animations and everything look so good that it doesn't bother me that they don't really deviate too much from what they're good at.

I'm thinking maybe there's some auto-combo action going on based on that trailer, purely a guess but it kinda gives those vibes. I'm not a fan of auto-combos so I hope I'm wrong but either way I am planning on getting this game barring some horrible information about it comes out.
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Wouldn't surprise me if there are auto-combos. KOF XV has them too.

OnionKnight86 said:


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She's always been a favorite. I even created some of her moves in a wrestling game that I play.

I didn't watch more than a minute since the guy is already incorrect. She appeared in SNK Heroines.
 
OnionKnight86 said:
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I think he looks great. I’m terrible with charge, but was ok with Cody’s Zonk. It’s been a while since I’ve fired up the old SF. Love the SF6 nod as well. Although, how big of a role is this guy playing? Is he the new Alex? I wonder if Capcom will change battle directors for the next installment.
 
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