Social Fellow Billionaire on Hannity calls out TRUMP for CONSTANTLY PLAYING THE VICTIM

[Diogenes of Sinope]

The stock market is not the economy. Because investors are well off does not reflect the state of main Street America.

I'm so fucking tired of brainlets who literally think the stock market is the economy.

You're right, but people were saying the same thing when the stock market dipped back in January or February.

Then the economy crashed.

The stock market is a sentiment indicator and can impact GDP

 

[nostradumbass]

Wasn't unemployment super low just before the pandemic hit?

Admittedly the trend was already headed in the right direction under Obama, but at the end of 2019 after 3 years of Trump it was at the lowest this millennium

That poster is a troll. Yes, unemployment was at record low, work force participation and wage growth for lower and middle incomes were very high. That guy just hears the stock market was doing well and thinks that must mean wages were dropping because the socialist/college kid crowd can't wrap their heads around the idea of mutual benefit.

From 2017 to 2018, relatively fast growth continued at the top (2.7% at the 95th percentile), but the 20th and 30th percentiles saw the strongest growth at 4.8% and 3.7%, respectively.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

I like Mark Cuban on the Shark Tank. It was a better show than the Apprentice was.

 

[heyguy]

I would stick up for Obama (go check) when he would get it unfairly, and it was 1/100th as bad under Obama. It's bad now. Trump is righgt, and it has got to the point of creating a delusional populace. It actually is the worst I've seen it, even though there were a TON of jokes about Bush being a fkn idiot near the end of his Presidency. That was done just looking at the hard facts, however.

Da fuck?

 

[Amerikuracana]

Da fuck?

It was sloppy, but I have a cold/fever. What part upsets your brand of hackery? Are you annoyed I stick up for Trump, or Obama? Does it bother you that I think Bush jr. was a really bad President, overall?

 

[heyguy]

It was sloppy, but I have a cold/fever. What part upsets your brand of hackery? Are you annoyed I stick up for Trump, or Obama? Does it bother you that I think Bush jr. was a really bad President, overall?

None of the above. Was genuinely confused by what the fuck you were saying. Still kind of am.

 

[hillelslovak87]

It was sloppy, but I have a cold/fever. What part upsets your brand of hackery? Are you annoyed I stick up for Trump, or Obama? Does it bother you that I think Bush jr. was a really bad President, overall?

It's weird you don't accept that Trump is delusional beyond compare. You know he's the guy who said Jesus stopped it from raining during his inauguration, right?

Cults of personality ALWAYS insist everyone else is crazy, and it's an us vs. them thing, when it's really you vs. everyone else not in the cult.

 

[Corn Pop Hombre]

You're right, but people were saying the same thing when the stock market dipped back in January or February.

Then the economy crashed.

The stock market is a sentiment indicator and can impact GDP

Right, it is an indicator of some aspects of the economy, like investor confidence. Similar to the stock market, gdp is also not an amazing or particularly useful statistic for analyzing how the economy is doing for most people. Its a giant micro stat that gives you virtually no information or detail as to how average people are doing in the economy

 

[RetiredSlave]

Were all guinea pigs where even the financiers and their servants are part of an ongoing experiment. Its too weird for me to think anything except whatever about 'Murican politics. If there are ulterior motives to the western political and social climates I cant figure it further than a sense of greed and possibly malice. TLDR we are fucked.

 

[Amerikuracana]

It's weird you don't accept that Trump is delusional beyond compare. You know he's the guy who said Jesus stopped it from raining during his inauguration, right?

Cults of personality ALWAYS insist everyone else is crazy, and it's an us vs. them thing, when it's really you vs. everyone else not in the cult.

Hey look, a backwards post! So uh, Trump is delusional about the media attacking him constantly? So how do these shill accounts work, is there like 3 people with access to it, or?

 

[hillelslovak87]

Hey look, a backwards post! So uh, Trump is delusional about the media attacking him constantly? So how do these shill accounts work, is there like 3 people with access to it, or?

He's delusional because everything he doesn't like is instantly an attack, and has nothing to do with the shitty nature of his actions and the things he says.

That's the way cult leaders think, and this shit is beyond obvious.

 

[Amerikuracana]

None of the above. Was genuinely confused by what the fuck you were saying. Still kind of am.

Trump gets an unreasonably hard time from the media. More than others.

Obama got an unreasonably hard time from Fox News, but the people watching that mostly knew a lot of it was BS, I hope. Not sure. Didn't watch Fox then.

Bush had tons of people being hard on him towards the end of his Presidency, but he was terrible, and it wasn't really the media all that much. Just people noticing stupid policy.

 

[Amerikuracana]

He's delusional because everything he doesn't like is instantly an attack, and has nothing to do with the shitty nature of his actions and the things he says.

That's the way cult leaders think, and this shit is beyond obvious.

We would be in a better position if what you were saying here was true.

 

[Corn Pop Hombre]

Wasn't unemployment super low just before the pandemic hit?

Admittedly the trend was already headed in the right direction under Obama, but at the end of 2019 after 3 years of Trump it was at the lowest this millennium

Unemployment is a useful statistic, but also doesn't provide much detailed information. You can reach full employment quite quickly - give everyone a government job that pays 1 dollar a month that asks them to pick up one piece of trash per month. Boom, full employment.

Now obviously thats just an extreme to prove a point. Analogous to that, an economy where unemployment is really low, but where most of the jobs pay minimum wage in the service industry, where consumer debt is at all time highs, where student loan debt is the most its ever been, where most young people are struggling to find housing or become homeowners because of exploding housing prices, where most Americans can't afford a 500 dollar emergency, where real wages have been flat for 40 years, that is NOT a good or strong economy.

Record GDP doesn't mean anything when most Americans have absolutely 0 stake in that increase in wealth. Record stock markets don't mean shit when 15% Of the population owns 85% of the equities.

Productivity is the highest its ever been. We're the most educated we've ever been. But working Americans, particularly young people, are getting absolutely fucked by our current economic model. Yes large amounts of new wealth is being created, and it almost exclusively goes to the 1% and the. 1%

 

[hillelslovak87]

We would be in a better position if what you were saying here was true.

Perhaps, just as normal people might take Trump's claims seriously if he wasn't bitching and complaining about anything and everything he sees on Fox News or Morning Joe, then moaning on twitter while taking his Mcdonald's dumps well into the night........

 

[heyguy]

Trump gets an unreasonably hard time from the media. More than others.

Obama got an unreasonably hard time from Fox News, but the people watching that mostly knew a lot of it was BS, I hope. Not sure. Didn't watch Fox then.

Alrighty then

 

[woodguyatl]

I saw the interview with Cuban, but hes being completely naive. There's zero doubt that Trump has been treated terribly by the media, which is what he always complains about. Many other people would crumble under the pressure that Trump has to deal with, the insulting questions, the lies, the twisting of his words to form narratives that aren't true, the never ending cycle of attacks.

Cuban is essentially saying that hes not allowed to mention it. Its a little bit ridiculous. Of course Trump has his issues, but when youre treated that unfairly, you certainly have the right to bring it up.

Trump said he has been treated worse than Lincoln. Let that sink in for minute.

 

[woodguyatl]

I saw the interview with Cuban, but hes being completely naive. There's zero doubt that Trump has been treated terribly by the media, which is what he always complains about. Many other people would crumble under the pressure that Trump has to deal with, the insulting questions, the lies, the twisting of his words to form narratives that aren't true, the never ending cycle of attacks.

Cuban is essentially saying that hes not allowed to mention it. Its a little bit ridiculous. Of course Trump has his issues, but when youre treated that unfairly, you certainly have the right to bring it up.

Trump financed the Birther campaign. He is your type call loudmouth who can dish it out but not take it.

 

[Rum]

I saw the interview with Cuban, but hes being completely naive. There's zero doubt that Trump has been treated terribly by the media, which is what he always complains about. Many other people would crumble under the pressure that Trump has to deal with, the insulting questions, the lies, the twisting of his words to form narratives that aren't true, the never ending cycle of attacks.

Cuban is essentially saying that hes not allowed to mention it. Its a little bit ridiculous. Of course Trump has his issues, but when youre treated that unfairly, you certainly have the right to bring it up.

I'm not the biggest Mark Cuban fan and I get where you're coming from to some extent. There is "zero doubt" that some of the more centre-left leaning media has performed disappointingly at times with the way they've misrepresented some of Trump's clumsier utterances, and they've done their own credibility no favours whenever they've done so. He's far from the most articulate leader the US has ever had (like you say, he does have his issues), but it's usually not too difficult to understand where he's coming from, and yet even some of the more "respectable" centre-left leaning journals have often taken to presenting his clumsier utterances in the least flattering light possible with no benefit of the doubt extended to the POTUS.

But the fact he takes flack from (and gives flack back to) both sides also tells you something. When even right-leaning, business-friendly outlets like Forbes, The Telegraph and the Fiscal Times are reporting on the extraordinary number of falsehoods issuing forth from the POTUS you have to at least pause and consider the strong possibility that he actually does have a significantly looser relationship with the facts than even the usual, garden-variety, lying, scheming politician does. And when The Big Man is regularly taking aim not only at left-leaning broadcasters like CNN and MSNBC but even at Fox News you have to consider the possibility that he practices a significant amount of disingenuousness himself with his whole The Media Is So Mean To Me angle.

So while I agree with you that some of the supposedly "respectable" left-leaning media have acted less than respectably, the idea that the likes of Fox and Forbes have treated him unfairly doesn't fly with me. There is zero doubt that while Trump does get dealt a harsh hand by some in the left-leaning media, he also 100% plays up and exaggerates the extent to which he is a victim of the news media as a whole.

Which is why there is also zero doubt than anyone who supports Trump flushes their own cred down the shitter any time they accuse any other person on the planet of "playing the victim" as if that is an inherently bad thing.

 

[Hit-N-Run]

It always cracks me up when Trump followers say he’s a tough guy. He’s a pussy rich boy who uses twitter like a 12 year old girl. He’s a whinny cunt