Fedor Was Only 33yrs old When He lost to Werdum

[Mamou]

You remind me of Thunderdamus. How many times have you avoided answering the question now? You're really making a solid case for yourself, friend.

How many top 10 wins did Gary Goodridge have from 2002-2003? Answer with a simple numerical value.

I don't give a fuck how many top 10 wins he had. It's honestly irrelevant and you're doing anything you can to find something to fit your narrative.

You asked for a ranking with Goodridge in the top 10, one was provided for you, then you said it wasn't good enough.

Not only that, but then you have yet to provide rankings from just prior of the fight/fighter in question to support your claim.

Just curious, but if the #9 and #10 lose in the rankings, but the #11 and #12 win their fight and were say, 7-1-1 in their last 9, do the #11 and #12 move up or do #9 and #10 just keep their spots in the rankings because #11 and #12 "don't have a top 10 win"? And how many top 10 wins do you expect the #9 and #10 ranked fighters to have?

 

[Deleted member 110072]

I don't give a fuck how many top 10 wins he had. It's honestly irrelevant and you're doing anything you can to find something to fit your narrative.

You asked for a ranking with Goodridge in the top 10, one was provided for you, then you said it wasn't good enough.

Not only that, but then you have yet to provide rankings from just prior of the fight/fighter in question to support your claim.

Just curious, but if the #9 and #10 lose in the rankings, but the #11 and #12 win their fight and were say, 7-1-1 in their last 9, do the #11 and and #12 move up or do #9 and #10 just keep their spots in the rankings because #11 and #12 "don't have a top 10 win"? And how many top 10 wins do you expect the #9 and #10 ranked fighters to have?

He doesnt seem to see the hypocrsy in his arguments, one moment he'c claiming that "top 10 wins" provide some kind of set standard, the next he's attacking rankings that don't agree with his narrative.

 

[Mamou]

He doesnt seem to see the hypocrsy in his arguments, one moment he'c claiming that "top 10 wins" provide some kind of set standard, the next he's attacking rankings that don't agree with his narrative.

You're preaching to the choir, man

 

[gono btw]

He doesnt seem to see the hypocrsy in his arguments, one moment he'c claiming that "top 10 wins" provide some kind of set standard, the next he's attacking rankings that don't agree with his narrative.

You're preaching to the choir, man

Poor McDego Fioretti needs that parameter since his limited knowledge can relate to it.
Once you see a whole era through that perspective, you dont even need to watch the fights, know about the context or skill sets.
If you dont expose him quickly with questions whose answers cant be found via wiki, m´f´kah´s gonna go back & forth durin´25 pages...

 

[Mamou]

Poor McDego Fioretti needs that parameter since his limited knowledge can relate to it.
Once you see a whole era through that perspective, you dont even need to watch the fights, know about the context or skill sets.
If you dont expose him quickly with questions whose answers cant be found via wiki, m´f´kah´s gonna go back & forth durin´25 pages...

He posts and posts and posts but says absolutely nothing. He's a very sad individual.

 

[Fioretti]

He posts and posts and posts but says absolutely nothing. He's a very sad individual.

I don't give a fuck how many top 10 wins he had. It's honestly irrelevant and you're doing anything you can to find something to fit your narrative.

You asked for a ranking with Goodridge in the top 10, one was provided for you, then you said it wasn't good enough.

Not only that, but then you have yet to provide rankings from just prior of the fight/fighter in question to support your claim.

How many top 10 wins did Gary Goodridge have?

 

[Fioretti]

He doesnt seem to see the hypocrsy in his arguments, one moment he'c claiming that "top 10 wins" provide some kind of set standard, the next he's attacking rankings that don't agree with his narrative.

What hypocrisy are you referring to? The fact that I am aware of the constant and blatant errors of Fight Matrix's generated rankings? I'm not the only one. That's not hypocritical, it's called being realistic. Being hypocritical is insisting that someone is top 10 without a top 10 win, then pretending "you don't care" about his top 10 wins or status.

 

[Mamou]

How many top 10 wins did Gary Goodridge have?

 

[Fioretti]

The fact that you won't say it shows that you know its relevance. How many?

 

[Mamou]

The fact that you won't say it shows that you know its relevance. How many?

I've told you that I don't give a fuck how many he had, 15, 5, 1, 0... it's irrelevant. You asked for someone to show you Goodridge ranked in the top 10 anywhere, I showed you that, you cried about it. You're still crying actually.

You've posted absolutely nothing to support your argument, but instead you just keep digging yourself deeper and deeper. Why is it that I can find rankings for 2003 but you can't?

 

[Fioretti]

I've told you that I don't give a fuck how many he had, 15, 5, 1, 0... it's irrelevant. You asked for someone to show you Goodridge ranked in the top 10 anywhere, I showed you that, you cried about it. You're still crying actually.

You've posted absolutely nothing to support your argument, but instead you just keep digging yourself deeper and deeper. Why is it that I can find rankings for 2003 but you can't?

Everything you said in this post above is dishonest. Literally everything.

How many top 10 wins does he have? You can say it, buddy. Just be honest.

 

[mst-dot]

No, he didn’t. DC was at his peak around 2014, about 5 years into his career. Year 10 (2019/2020) is when DC fell off a cliff, getting stopped twice by Stipe.

Use your brain. Do the math. You aren’t going to be in your prime 10 years into your career. Look at almost any athlete from boxing to MMA. The list of fighters washed up 10 years in is infinitely longer than the ones who weren’t.

I was talking about age. I was talking about mileage because a lot of people seem to think wrestling until you're 30 comes without lifelong injuries

 

[Kforcer]

Everyone's prime is different

That's it.

 

[Mamou]

Everything you said in this post above is dishonest. Literally everything.

How many top 10 wins does he have? You can say it, buddy. Just be honest.

Nah, all that actually happened and I really don't care who Goodridge beat to be #9.

Just accept your multiple losses and move on already.

 

[Greyscale]

Choi and Zulu had 50+ pounds on Fedor.
They were not career defining wins, but we are talking about mileage and going through training camps an fighting behemoths takes toll on your body.

Fedor didn't fight "middleweights".
You can call someone a "middleweight" when he steps in at 185 pounds.
when he steps at 206+ pounds, and is on roids/ TRT, that's a HW and a dangerous one,
like most of Fedor's fights were.

Any MMA fighter can get 1000-0 beating up sick people who have 50+ and 100+ pounds on them.

Yes, you actually can call middleweights 'middleweights' if they spent the majority of their career at MW, have to gain weight to fight at HW and generally lack frame to do it.

Fedor fought 0-1 Nagata right after winning the PRIDE belt. I.e. the HW MMA Champ, arguably the baddest man on the planet, fought some bum who wasn't even a fighter. That fact alone say it all about fedor's 'legendary' career.

 

[r-harper-1]

They are but people at the same time like to talk about how his 10 years run was a plethora of one sided dominant beat downs...so that doesn't exactly paint a picture of a fighter with a lot of mileage on his body.
You'd expect a guy in his early 30's with a fairly dominant resume and 0 KO/TKO loses at that point and who wasn't exactly known for taking bad beatings or cutting a shit ton of weight to still be somewhat in his prime, but Sherdog acts like he was 40+ with a car crash body. A year earlier he was crushing Arlovski and Rogers and people were talking about getting him to UFC and watch him wreak havoc on the division. The story isn't consistent.

Maybe he was dominant because he trained so hard ..... training / sparring adds to mileage as well .... you know that right ?

 

[orca]

Cain was training MMA in his 20's.

i was so young back then. i miss cain. cant believe im almost the same age as big nog 33yrs old now hhaha

 

[Fioretti]

Use YOUR brain. Do you honestly think a 30 yr old who has been to national international and Olympic champions is in their physical prime? Wrestling is a grueling sport.
Im talking about physical prime not when he delivered his best performances.
And when did I say you were in your prime to years into your career?
I was talking about age. I was talking about mileage because a lot of people seem to think wrestling until you're 30 comes without lifelong injuries

Nah, all that actually happened and I really don't care who Goodridge beat to be #9.

Just accept your multiple losses and move on already.

You were picked apart in every single instance and tapped multiple times. Your denial is your strongest skill, next to your tapping ability.

Showing a screenshot of fight matrix moving Goodridge up from #20 to #5 HW in 2001 with a win over unranked Val Overeem was you proving me right, not the other way around. Pretending to "not care" that he had 0 top 10 wins in his career (let alone between 2001-2003) and fake laughing didn't somehow magically make you "win" anything. It proved my points further, as did your straight up refusal to accept actual historical rankings when you spent hours begging and screaming for them.

Your dishonesty reeks of adolescent defiance, as does your reactions to being proven wrong. Keep on keepin on, girl. You're impressing so many with your "don't care" rebel flare. = )

 

[gono btw]

Any MMA fighter can get 1000-0 beating up sick people who have 50+ and 100+ pounds on them.

Yes, you actually can call middleweights 'middleweights' if they spent the majority of their career at MW, have to gain weight to fight at HW and generally lack frame to do it.

Fedor fought 0-1 Nagata right after winning the PRIDE belt. I.e. the HW MMA Champ, arguably the baddest man on the planet, fought some bum who wasn't even a fighter. That fact alone say it all about fedor's 'legendary' career.

> hmmm... since you said "MWs" ... you must be includin´Hendo... & nah... he didnt spend "the majority of [his] career at MW"... that´s inaccurate, mate...

> Where did he fight Nagata & why?

 

[Mamou]

You were picked apart in every single instance and tapped multiple times. Your denial is your strongest skill, next to your tapping ability.

Showing a screenshot of fight matrix moving Goodridge up from #20 to #5 HW in 2001 with a win over unranked Val Overeem was you proving me right, not the other way around. Pretending to "not care" that he had 0 top 10 wins in his career (let alone between 2001-2003) and fake laughing didn't somehow magically make you "win" anything. It proved my points further, as did your straight up refusal to accept actual historical rankings when you spent hours begging and screaming for them.

Your dishonesty reeks of adolescent defiance, as does your reactions to being proven wrong. Keep on keepin on, girl. You're impressing so many with your "don't care" rebel flare. = )

You're the one that was asking for a ranking with Goodridge in it, you got the ranking with him in it. It's on you now to provide a ranking without him in it.

I do not care if he was ranked or not, I do not care who he fought or who he beat. I replied to you because YOU asked for a ranking with him in the top 10.

And again, you've proven nobody wrong except yourself, so keep crying.