Fedor Was Only 33yrs old When He lost to Werdum

[Mamou]

Unfortunately, buddy boy, there isn't historical rankings available for that exact time period, but there is some available from 2001 (which I've shown you previously) which is where Gary supposedly made his top 10 debut at #5 (according to Fight Matrix) with a win over the unranked Valentijn Overeem.

They also have from the middle of 2002:
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Which shows no Gary Goodridge, and his record shows he beat nobody on this list (or anybody remotely close) to justify him being in the top 10 since the middle of 2002 to 2003.

Then we have the end of 2003- early 2004 list prior to the GP I also posted earlier:

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This one lists 6 other contenders for top 10 as well, and Gary isn't considered.

The man was 17-13-1 going into his fight with Fedor, with zero top 10 wins. How in the dirty fuck do you think he was top 10? Fight matrix, eh?

These are historical rankings from MMAWeekly, and a few other sources, found on the UG.

August

10th

2003

You

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2002

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2004

 

[Mamou]

Yet, Gary Goodridge at 17-13-1 coming off a win over Lloyd van Dams was totally top 10, amirite?

7-1-1 in his last 9...

 

[mjfan23]

Yet, Gary Goodridge at 17-13-1 coming off a win over Lloyd van Dams was totally top 10, amirite?

The question isn’t is Gary (who had already enjoyed success in various mma and kickboxing settings and was on a nice run ) top ten? Question is a 5-3 AA number 6 in the entire world in your all so well thought out, analyzed and sourced rankings?

 

[FalaRua]

As post #2 stated, fighting years are different to normal age. I would also add that fighters that rely on speed and reflexes fall out of prime steeply. Whether it's MMA or boxing, fighters with power do not fall out of prime as dramatically, compared with fighters relying on speed and reflexes.

 

[mjfan23]

As post #2 stated, fighting years are different to normal age. I would also add that fighters that rely on speed and reflexes fall out of prime steeply. Whether it's MMA or boxing, fighters with power do not fall out of prime as dramatically, compared with fighters relying on speed and reflexes.

Please exit thread.

This thread doesn’t need your sense and logic based contributions.

/sarcasm

 

[Fioretti]

7-1-1 in his last 9...

With 0 top 10 wins...

The question isn’t is Gary (who had already enjoyed success in various mma and kickboxing settings and was on a nice run ) top ten? Question is a 5-3 AA number 6 in the entire world in your all so well thought out, analyzed and sourced rankings?

Arlovski got in the top 10 by beating Matyushenko in late 2003, who got in the top 10 by beating Rizzo in early 2003.

How did Gary get top 10? 0-0 Lloyd van Dams, right?

 

[Fioretti]

August

10th

2003

You

Fucking

Moron

Not

2002

Or

2004

Sweet girl, they're not available for the exact month you want, but standard 4th grade problem solving and logic would tell you that if Gary wasn't ranked in 2002 or 2004, and had zero top 10 wins in between, with a record of 17-13-1, he's not a top 10 fighter.

By the way, I know you weren't around back then, but they didn't have events and updated rankings every month.

This proves my earlier point that you don't want to discuss or consider anything other than what you want to believe is true. I gave you screenshots and cited my source, which you so desperately asked for repeatedly, but it's just not good enough? Weird. Kinda like the analogy I gave about you resembling a strong, independent young woman who has made up her mind, and cannot be tricked into thinking otherwise with facts or data. Damn, girl, you're so doing you. What a queen.

 

[mjfan23]

With 0 top 10 wins...



Arlovski got in the top 10 by beating Matyushenko in late 2003, who got in the top 10 by beating Rizzo in early 2003.

How did Gary get top 10? 0-0 Lloyd van Dams, right?

So one or two wins in a division (he came from LHW after losing to Tito Ortiz) move you into top ten?

I love your logic please send me a link to your rankings I will follow it daily.

Did you do any of the active divisions or the pound for pound one too?

 

[Fioretti]

I'm actually not arguing with anyone's rankings because most of them are nonsense.

I'm amused at the fact that someone posts rankings and claims they are from a source but clearly just made them up. Not much you can do except let them burn themselves down.

I clearly made them up? Please elaborate.

 

[Fioretti]

So one or two wins in a division (he came from LHW after losing to Tito Ortiz) move you into top ten?

I love your logic please send me a link to your rankings I will follow it daily.

Did you do any of the active divisions or the pound for pound one too?

He beat a top 10 ranked HW. Are you honestly this dense, or just trolling? How is Gary top 10 without any top 10 wins?

Lloyd van Dams! O-1 MMA career. Solid logic, bro.

 

[Barteh]

You have 10k posts on here and you still don't understand that mileage decides a fighter's prime years and not age?

 

[Mamou]

With 0 top 10 wins...



Arlovski got in the top 10 by beating Matyushenko in late 2003, who got in the top 10 by beating Rizzo in early 2003.

How did Gary get top 10? 0-0 Lloyd van Dams, right?

Who cares? That's 6 more unranked fighters than Arlovski beat in that span.


When did Arlovski beat Vlad? Was it before or after August 10th, 2003?

 

[Fioretti]

Who cares? That's 6 more unranked fighters than Arlovski beat in that span.


When did Arlovski beat Vlad? Was it before or after August 10th, 2003?

When did Gary beat a top 10 guy? The common theme is quality over quantity. 0-0 Lloyd van Dams is not a ranked win. Sorry, buddy boy.

 

[Mamou]

Sweet girl, they're not available for the exact month you want, but standard 4th grade problem solving and logic would tell you that if Gary wasn't ranked in 2002 or 2004, and had zero top 10 wins in between, with a record of 17-13-1, he's not a top 10 fighter.

By the way, I know you weren't around back then, but they didn't have events and updated rankings every month.

This proves my earlier point that you don't want to discuss or consider anything other than what you want to believe is true. I gave you screenshots and cited my source, which you so desperately asked for repeatedly, but it's just not good enough? Weird. Kinda like the analogy I gave about you resembling a strong, independent young woman who has made up her mind, and cannot be tricked into thinking otherwise with facts or data. Damn, girl, you're so doing you. What a queen.

You've posted rankings from 2002 and you've posted rankings from 2004... so rankings are just a yearly thing, they change every 12-24 months? Or is it possible that a guy that was 7-1-1 just so happened to crack the top 10 in the year you weren't able to post?

and how was he ranked in the top 10 for July 1st, 2003 screenshot I posted?

And you have yet to prove anything other than how stupid and pathetic you are. You've posted your shitty opinion with absolutely nothing to back it up in regards to a fight that happened on August 10th, 2003.

 

[Mamou]

When did Gary beat a top 10 guy? The common theme is quality over quantity. 0-0 Lloyd van Dams is not a ranked win. Sorry, buddy boy.

When did Arlovski? I mean you're the one claiming a 5-3 fighter on a 1 fight win streak was a top 10 fighter when Fedor fought Goodridge despite having 0 evidence to back your claim.

 

[mjfan23]

He beat a top 10 ranked HW. Are you honestly this dense, or just trolling? How is Gary top 10 without any top 10 wins?

Lloyd van Dams! O-1 MMA career. Solid logic, bro.

Not to disrespect your learning deficiency any further but for the last time:

Question isn’t was Big Daddy number 10 in anyone rankings but was AA number 6 in the world?!

since you are too incompetent to answer it I will do it for you: No AA was not the worlds sixth best HW in august of 2003

 

[Starman]

hardcore mma fans acting like the guy was 60yrs old and past his prime when he lost to werdum guy was barely hittin a HWs prime hell stipe was 1 year older when he won the title no doubt fedor was the 1 p4p hw during his pride run but in retrospect the guy barely cracks the top 5.

33 in combat sports is old, especially for a fighter with the miles Fedor had on him.

He’d been in MMA for over a decade by the time he fought Werdum, and had been doing Sambo for 20 years.

I know for Millennials and their bastard offspring Zoomer trash who’ve never done anything even remotely close to sports or competition in general, this will be a foreign concept, but athletes have an incredibly short shelf life.

Running backs in the NFL have maybe 5 years, at best, before their bodies start breaking down. NBA players about 10.

Now imagine getting punched in the face for a living for 10 years straight (because they’re eating shots in practice every day too, regardless of protective headgear), and you might start to get a clue. Or not.

 

[Mamou]

Not to disrespect your learning deficiency any further but for the last time:

Question isn’t was Big Daddy number 10 in anyone rankings but was AA number 6 in the world?!

since you are too incompetent to answer it I will do it for you: No AA was not the worlds sixth best HW in august of 2003

Hey man, they conveniently don't have the rankings from 2003, so if you weren't ranked in 2002 or 2004, you can't be ranked in 2003. Those are just facts...

 

[Fioretti]

When did Arlovski? I mean you're the one claiming a 5-3 fighter on a 1 fight win streak was a top 10 fighter when Fedor fought Goodridge despite having 0 evidence to back your claim.

Not to disrespect your learning deficiency any further but for the last time:

Question isn’t was Big Daddy number 10 in anyone rankings but was AA number 6 in the world?!

since you are too incompetent to answer it I will do it for you: No AA was not the worlds sixth best HW in august of 2003

So you both disagree with anyone calling Hunt a top 10 win for Fedor? He had one top 10 win (split decision over Mirko) exactly one year before his fight with Fedor, got two unranked wins in between, then lost to Barnett in his fight immediately before fighting Fedor for the title.

He was 5-2 and coming off a loss with only 1 top 10 win a year prior.

Matyushenko beat top 10 Rizzo, earning his spot, then lost to Arlovski immediately after, earning Arlovski a top 10 spot.

How did Gary get top 10 again?

 

[sampuncher]

Hey man, they conveniently don't have the rankings from 2003, so if you weren't ranked in 2002 or 2004, you can't be ranked in 2003. Those are just facts...

Man, let it go now surely.

Surely you can both just agree to disagree and we can carry on with this thread without having to read this pathetic back and forth about 2003 rankings.