FBI reopens Clinton investigation as new emails found PART 3

[vespasian]

"Finally having enough" of what? If Lynch is a political hack, then surely his actions are exactly the same in favour of the Republicans.
If Comey was simply going to continue the investigation or prosecute, he could have done that without the vague pronouncements on the eve of the election.

Finally had enough of political interference with his job. He's pushing back, simple as that.

 

[Ruprecht]

The DOJ actions have long been politically motivated.

Comey may be motivated by the ethical standards of his profession. This is payback for the DOJ obstructing the FBI investigation of various Clinton scandals. Just to take an example, the FBI was NOT allowed to conduct a formal witness interview (under oath) on Hillary Clinton.

So politicising the case is OK so long as it's helping out the GOP?
I mean it's not as if the public investigation was doing Clinton any favours.

 

[method115]

You did. You were insisting that the FBI had already searched the emails before they had authorization to do it, right? It's still in this thread.

My take is actually that there *isn't* a crazy conspiracy here, and the process of actually looking at the potential evidence didn't begin until they got the warrant. But you were insisting that that wasn't the case. And Weiner could well get indicted for the sexting stuff. There will be no indictments related to the email server thing.

I think what happened is they were searching through Weiners stuff and found these emails. At that point they probably saw a few saw what was going on stopped and made the appropriate calls.

 

[Ruprecht]

Finally had enough of political interference with his job. He's pushing back, simple as that.

So you're OK with the FBI director taking revenge by interfering in the election? Interesting.

 

[vespasian]

You did. You were insisting that the FBI had already searched the emails before they had authorization to do it, right? It's still in this thread. .

They have searched the METADATA. To/from/date/subject. That is enough to see that there are emails archive on that laptop that have been not accounted for, and should not have been there in the first place.

 

[Dr J]

My opinion is the same. I respected the FBI when they said there was nothing to prosecute and I respect them now when they say there is something to investigate. All I can do is wait for their conclusion and hope it comes before election day.

I think this highlights that all of the back and forth on their impartiality is the most absurd thing (and underscores the irresponsibility of the ""rigged" rhetoric). When the FBI said HRC was clear, some people said there was bias in her favor...those people are now saying the FBI is no longer biased but nothing about the personnel has changed. Some people said the FBI was impartial before...those people are now claiming the FBI is meddling in politics. I find both groups frustrating for the same type of partisanship.

My only issue is that it's unlikely to be resolved before people go to the polls so I don't know how to weigh it. They've said they don't even know if these are duplicate emails or not. And even if they are new, they don't know if they rise to the level of prosecution. It's a giant ball of vagueness that isn't very helpful.

Lastly, it is consistent with my oft-stated opinion that I should withhold making a conclusion on who to vote for as long as possible because you never know what's going to come out. I was right then and it's more apparent now.

I don't think many people are saying that they're no longer biased. The consensus seems to be that they bungled the original investigation/recommendation and are now covering their asses and/or completing a prematurely closed case.

 

[DespicablePeep]

...and that would still make his actions politically motivated. If he's just "playing it straight" and he's got emails of significance, he should release them or at least indicate that's the case.
If he doesn't, then announcing to public and congress that he might have something once he's read a few hundred thousand emails, really is simply a political act.
Apparently GW Bush's own legal ethicist is calling him on it.

He is investigating he can´t give criminals a heads up of where he is going, why should it be different for a politician.

 

[vespasian]

So you're OK with the FBI director taking revenge by interfering in the election? Interesting.

As OK as you guys are with Lynch doing the same.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I think what happened is they were searching through Weiners stuff and found these emails. At that point they probably saw a few saw what was going on stopped and made the appropriate calls.

Something like that. I said that from the beginning (Comey was pretty clear about it). But the nutter brigade insisted that Comey wouldn't have done something like this unless he knew that there was something legit (which means they will criticize him when it turns out there isn't, right?). I'm pointing out that the implication of their claim is that there was an illegal search.

There's a logically airtight case that the nutters are stepping in shit here, but they don't want to admit it. The only defense is to say that anyone who doesn't agree with them is just trolling.

They have searched the METADATA. To/from/date/subject. That is enough to see that there are emails archive on that laptop that have been not accounted for, and should not have been there in the first place.

No it isn't. It's not illegal to send or receive emails from someone. The existence of the server is already known. They have to look at the content to see if there's anything interesting.

 

[Ruprecht]

He is investigating he can´t give criminals a heads up of where he is going, why should it be different for a politician.

He wouldn't announce to congress that he "might" have something on a criminal either.

 

[Hans Gruber]

 

[method115]

They have searched the METADATA. To/from/date/subject. That is enough to see that there are emails archive on that laptop that have been not accounted for, and should not have been there in the first place.

Ah your right I forgot about that. I heard or read something that said they saw the metedata. That's how they know it's pertinent to the case.

 

[Joseph Budden]

Ruprecht is in full blown protect Hillary mode right now.

All Comeys fault guys. Fuck him for letting Americans know the top candidate had her FBI investigation reopened.

 

[method115]

Something like that. I said that from the beginning (Comey was pretty clear about it). But the nutter brigade insisted that Comey wouldn't have done something like this unless he knew that there was something legit (which means they will criticize him when it turns out there isn't, right?). I'm pointing out that the implication of their claim is that there was an illegal search.

There's a logically airtight case that the nutters are stepping in shit here, but they don't want to admit it. The only defense is to say that anyone who doesn't agree with them is just trolling.



No it isn't. It's not illegal to send or receive emails from someone. The existence of the server is already known. They have to look at the content to see if there's anything interesting.

Yea it's pretty confusing. Someone said they searched the metadata though and I actually think that might be more true. I remember seeing a video from someone (I think the ex FBI assist) and he said something about them seeing the metadata.

 

[Ruprecht]

As OK as you guys are with Lynch doing the same.

I wouldn't be, if there was actually evidence that was the case. I mean Lynch asking Comey to follow the FBI practice of not commenting on investigations and not influencing elections is hardly evidence of her doing the opposite.

 

[Deleted member 491001]

As an aspiring historian with a focus on American history, i feel pretty confident that it's been more or less a shit show the whole time. At least we dont have politicians brawling with brass knuckles anymore.

Oh now THAT'S a debate format I could get behind, and I'm sure most Americans could this year too.

Joe Rogan and Goldberg could run the analysis booth and Big John McCarthy could "moderate" <cheer>

 

[Ruprecht]

Ruprecht is in full blown protect Hillary mode right now.

All Comeys fault guys. Fuck him for letting Americans know the top candidate had her FBI investigation reopened.

Uhuh. So you've got no arguments then? Good luck with your candidate and that "choose-my-own-reality" gig.

 

[Joseph Budden]

Uhuh. So you've got no arguments then? Good luck with your candidate and that "choose-my-own-reality" gig.

No argument? I've already replied to your last few points without a response from you lol

You're reaching heavy. It's honestly sickening watching Americans like yourself who want to blame everyone but Hillary. This should be about or country, not what political party you side with

 

[Ruprecht]

The Hatch act dates from 1939.

 

[Rational Poster]

Based on his claims of annual audits, it would be pretty reasonable to think he hasn't been breaking laws.

And sure, he could have taken money to foreign governments. Hillary, on the other hand, has taken money from foreign governments.

Her foundation has, none of that money has actually gone to her and she doesn't take a salary from the foundation.

Unlike Trump, we know this because her tax information as well as the tax information from her foundation are public.